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Fury & Wlad

...considering the magnitude of the upset, Tyson Fury...and no, I'm not his fan...

Horse wrote:Tyson Fury.

Chepppaaa wrote:

Horse wrote:Tyson Fury.

Fury obviously, and it's not even close.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Aaronide_ger wrote:A world champion is a nobody in 2015? I didnt know that..

Wow someone is apparently short on reading comprehension!! Did i say that GGG was a nobody or did I say this in reference to his wins over the people he fought??


two virtual nobodies at MW and one who wasn't even a real MW, lol I suggest you take some lessons or by Hooked on Phonics or maybe the new book that came out "Reading Comprehension for Dummies" lol.

Hahahahhahahahahahahhaha I really laughed so HARD at your answer, I meant David Lemieux you DUMBF#CK! U might be the biggest idiot in this whole forum. Dumbest answer of the year.

I can see an honest argument for GGG,Floyd and Fury.
Fury beat the long reigning seemingly invincible Klitschko and a win over a top 25 fighter in Hammer.
Floyd having the Pac victory and the cakewalk Berto fight.
GGG had 3 victories one over another belt holder 1 over a top 10 and one over a top 15

All being said I would have to rate their years as Fury,Floyd and then GGG.

Fury had the best year of any of the other fighters.

caldo2025 wrote:Ok, that did it....officially puked on myself. Some Brit with an extra chromosome wins a slap fight against a 40 year old robot and it's the biggest win in the history of the world. Let's blame this nonsense on the leftover eggnog. Get off the sauce boys.

Golovkin by a mile.

He took on 3 top 5 middleweights and knocked all 3 of them out without getting out of 2nd gear. It's not just results that matter but the manner of them. Golovkin has the best balance of opponent quality to level of performance.

Boxing fans actually trying to reward Floyd and Fury for what they did in 2015 is exactly what is wrong with the sport. Wtf is wrong with you people? These guys are rightly ridiculed for embarrassing themselves in a way you never would have seen even 20 years ago. Gtfo here.

Ricky_ wrote:Golovkin by a mile.

He took on 3 top 5 middleweights and knocked all 3 of them out without getting out of 2nd gear. It's not just results that matter but the manner of them. Golovkin has the best balance of opponent quality to level of performance.

Boxing fans actually trying to reward Floyd and Fury for what they did in 2015 is exactly what is wrong with the sport. Wtf is wrong with you people? These guys are rightly ridiculed for embarrassing themselves in a way you never would have seen even 20 years ago. Gtfo here.

No way you can call all 3 of GGG's opponents top 5.

tiny_acres wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Golovkin by a mile.

He took on 3 top 5 middleweights and knocked all 3 of them out without getting out of 2nd gear. It's not just results that matter but the manner of them. Golovkin has the best balance of opponent quality to level of performance.

Boxing fans actually trying to reward Floyd and Fury for what they did in 2015 is exactly what is wrong with the sport. Wtf is wrong with you people? These guys are rightly ridiculed for embarrassing themselves in a way you never would have seen even 20 years ago. Gtfo here.

No way you can call all 3 of GGG's opponents top 5.

If you have Golovkin at 1 who's the next best 5 at mw?

Was Murray? Was Monroe? Was Lemiuex?

Ricky_ wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Golovkin by a mile.

He took on 3 top 5 middleweights and knocked all 3 of them out without getting out of 2nd gear. It's not just results that matter but the manner of them. Golovkin has the best balance of opponent quality to level of performance.

Boxing fans actually trying to reward Floyd and Fury for what they did in 2015 is exactly what is wrong with the sport. Wtf is wrong with you people? These guys are rightly ridiculed for embarrassing themselves in a way you never would have seen even 20 years ago. Gtfo here.

No way you can call all 3 of GGG's opponents top 5.

If you have Golovkin at 1 who's the next best 5 at mw?

Was Murray? Was Monroe? Was Lemiuex?

I agree with Lemiuex.You could even make an argument for Murray
But no way in hell is Monroe

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Aaronide_ger wrote:A world champion is a nobody in 2015? I didnt know that..

Wow someone is apparently short on reading comprehension!! Did i say that GGG was a nobody or did I say this in reference to his wins over the people he fought??


two virtual nobodies at MW and one who wasn't even a real MW, lol I suggest you take some lessons or by Hooked on Phonics or maybe the new book that came out "Reading Comprehension for Dummies" lol.

FMJ v Pac was a farce. FMJ v Berto was a walkover.

Fury is the fighter of the year 2015

So Fury beats a guy who's over 40 that hugs him to death while Floyd easily beats the Great Manny Pacquiao that you guys said would not only beat Floyd but also KO him and he's wins tying a 60 year old record and you still hang your hat on Fury.

lol, you guys are a real joke, it really hurts you so called "boxing fans" to admit the truth.

I never (ever) picked Pac over FMJ. I am continuing to claim that FMJ v Pac was a farce. I called it at the final press conference and nothing has emerged that could dissuade me from continuing to hold that position.

Berto, no matter which orifice you choose to inflate him by, is not equivalent to WKlit. FMJ barely makes my top 10 fighters of the year.

tiny_acres wrote:I can see an honest argument for GGG,Floyd and Fury.
Fury beat the long reigning seemingly invincible Klitschko and a win over a top 25 fighter in Hammer.
Floyd having the Pac victory and the cakewalk Berto fight.
GGG had 3 victories one over another belt holder 1 over a top 10 and one over a top 15

All being said I would have to rate their years as Fury,Floyd and then GGG.

Fury had the best year of any of the other fighters.

SFW wrote:I think Mayweather gets it.. made a hall of famer look silly then cruises by a 2x world champion. The Fury win over Klitchko was significant but I don't think it outweighs what Floyd did over the whole year.

FMJ v Pac and Fury v WKlit were both silly. The difference is one was a farce and the other was a Who Does The Best Oaf competition.

Nobody should get anything but sued over that choreographed farce that Teams FMJ and Pac perpetrated on the planet.

It was the cross between a bad joke and rotten pussy.

caldo2025 wrote:Ok, that did it....officially puked on myself. Some Brit with an extra chromosome wins a slap fight against a 40 year old robot and it's the biggest win in the history of the world. Let's blame this nonsense on the leftover eggnog. Get off the sauce boys.

C'Mon, Caldo. True the fight wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be, a truism about boxing is often the more talent in the ring, the "duller" the fight is. Think Leonard-Benetiz or Mosley-DeLaHoya or Mayweather-DeLaHoya. Regarding your insult to Fury, sure he says stupid stuff, but he all but admitted he does that to draw attention and sell tickets.

tiny_acres wrote:
I agree with Lemiuex.You could even make an argument for Murray
But no way in hell is Monroe

Yeah fair enough, Monroe is green and has a thin resume. However he's clearly a talented southpaw who probably gave GGG his best fight to date and will be among a MW top 10 over the next few years.

Tony1244 wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:Ok, that did it....officially puked on myself. Some Brit with an extra chromosome wins a slap fight against a 40 year old robot and it's the biggest win in the history of the world. Let's blame this nonsense on the leftover eggnog. Get off the sauce boys.

C'Mon, Caldo. True the fight wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be, a truism about boxing is often the more talent in the ring, the "duller" the fight is. Think Leonard-Benetiz or Mosley-DeLaHoya or Mayweather-DeLaHoya. Regarding your insult to Fury, sure he says stupid stuff, but he all but admitted he does that to draw attention and sell tickets.

Pump the brakes, Tony. Like I said, Tyson Fury has every right to sleep and shower with that belt on and forever be called the Heavyweight Champion of the World but there's nothing remotely close to a display of "The Sweet Science" in the ring that night. The dullness was not caused by a blend of technical brilliance, it was caused by a 40 year old man with eroded skills and reflexes finally getting in the ring with a larger, younger opponent and not having an answer. It's a GREAT win for the Brits and I was rooting for Fury every step of the way and I also love his act but he's no Fighter of the Year.

And let's be honest, the belts aside, most people wouldn't include Tyson Fury in their top 5 of current heavyweights right now. He just happened to be in the right place and the right time. Just like Cotto and Sergio, very similar. But Fury is the current champ of the world and owner of the most treasured title there is in the sport. Giving him that title is more than enough in my opinion.

caldo2025 wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:Ok, that did it....officially puked on myself. Some Brit with an extra chromosome wins a slap fight against a 40 year old robot and it's the biggest win in the history of the world. Let's blame this nonsense on the leftover eggnog. Get off the sauce boys.

C'Mon, Caldo. True the fight wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be, a truism about boxing is often the more talent in the ring, the "duller" the fight is. Think Leonard-Benetiz or Mosley-DeLaHoya or Mayweather-DeLaHoya. Regarding your insult to Fury, sure he says stupid stuff, but he all but admitted he does that to draw attention and sell tickets.

Pump the brakes, Tony. Like I said, Tyson Fury has every right to sleep and shower with that belt on and forever be called the Heavyweight Champion of the World but there's nothing remotely close to a display of "The Sweet Science" in the ring that night. The dullness was not caused by a blend of technical brilliance, it was caused by a 40 year old man with eroded skills and reflexes finally getting in the ring with a larger, younger opponent and not having an answer. It's a GREAT win for the Brits and I was rooting for Fury every step of the way and I also love his act but he's no Fighter of the Year.

And let's be honest, the belts aside, most people wouldn't include Tyson Fury in their top 5 of current heavyweights right now. He just happened to be in the right place and the right time. Just like Cotto and Sergio, very similar. But Fury is the current champ of the world and owner of the most treasured title there is in the sport. Giving him that title is more than enough in my opinion.

Stop beating round the bush. Fury is garbage. He's a flabby clumsy mess with no chin, no poise, no fluidity, no power, no athleticism and no class. Kudos though for having long arms and alot of height. FOTY... gtfo here!!

Ricky_ wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

C'Mon, Caldo. True the fight wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be, a truism about boxing is often the more talent in the ring, the "duller" the fight is. Think Leonard-Benetiz or Mosley-DeLaHoya or Mayweather-DeLaHoya. Regarding your insult to Fury, sure he says stupid stuff, but he all but admitted he does that to draw attention and sell tickets.

Pump the brakes, Tony. Like I said, Tyson Fury has every right to sleep and shower with that belt on and forever be called the Heavyweight Champion of the World but there's nothing remotely close to a display of "The Sweet Science" in the ring that night. The dullness was not caused by a blend of technical brilliance, it was caused by a 40 year old man with eroded skills and reflexes finally getting in the ring with a larger, younger opponent and not having an answer. It's a GREAT win for the Brits and I was rooting for Fury every step of the way and I also love his act but he's no Fighter of the Year.

And let's be honest, the belts aside, most people wouldn't include Tyson Fury in their top 5 of current heavyweights right now. He just happened to be in the right place and the right time. Just like Cotto and Sergio, very similar. But Fury is the current champ of the world and owner of the most treasured title there is in the sport. Giving him that title is more than enough in my opinion.

Stop beating round the bush. Fury is garbage. He's a flabby clumsy mess with no chin, no poise, no fluidity, no power, no athleticism and no class. Kudos though for having long arms and alot of height. FOTY... gtfo here!!

You guys are just playing The Hate Game. To say Fury isn't in the top 5 HWs is patently ridiculous. I should clarify one point, I wasn't comparing Fury at this point, to Mosley or Benetiz in the P4P department, I was just making an analogy that some fights can look "dull" when they're relatively evenly matched. Fury has a good jab, can switch from orthodox to southpaw as well as about anyone I've ever seen and has some power, even though it's not great. If everything falls into place, Fury turning into a Lennox Lewis or a Klitschko is possible, albeit not probable. He has no class, but otherwise you guys are just on the hate bandwagon by belittling his obvious talent.

Tony1244 wrote:You guys are just playing The Hate Game. To say Fury isn't in the top 5 HWs is patently ridiculous.

You'd have to be a proper dullwit to not have Fury in the top 5 at heavyweight.

I have Tyson Furry #1 at HW by virtue of beating old man clinchers. But his stint at the top ends against the first decent HW capable of fighting on the inside and has a bit of pop.

Caldo is right. Calling Fury FOTY after that laughing stock of a hw title fight is a bit like claiming Cotto was the best MW in the world after beating an old 1 legged Martinez at a catchweight.

Sometimes i think the farcical way in which boxing is run has turned some fans crazy. Fury FOTY... jesus. Boxtec has Canelo #1 MW and he's never fought a MW fight. The highest he has ever fought is a 155 limit. 4 lb short. WTF is boxing coming to. Farce.

Tony1244 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
Pump the brakes, Tony. Like I said, Tyson Fury has every right to sleep and shower with that belt on and forever be called the Heavyweight Champion of the World but there's nothing remotely close to a display of "The Sweet Science" in the ring that night. The dullness was not caused by a blend of technical brilliance, it was caused by a 40 year old man with eroded skills and reflexes finally getting in the ring with a larger, younger opponent and not having an answer. It's a GREAT win for the Brits and I was rooting for Fury every step of the way and I also love his act but he's no Fighter of the Year.

And let's be honest, the belts aside, most people wouldn't include Tyson Fury in their top 5 of current heavyweights right now. He just happened to be in the right place and the right time. Just like Cotto and Sergio, very similar. But Fury is the current champ of the world and owner of the most treasured title there is in the sport. Giving him that title is more than enough in my opinion.

Stop beating round the bush. Fury is garbage. He's a flabby clumsy mess with no chin, no poise, no fluidity, no power, no athleticism and no class. Kudos though for having long arms and alot of height. FOTY... gtfo here!!

You guys are just playing The Hate Game. To say Fury isn't in the top 5 HWs is patently ridiculous. I should clarify one point, I wasn't comparing Fury at this point, to Mosley or Benetiz in the P4P department, I was just making an analogy that some fights can look "dull" when they're relatively evenly matched. Fury has a good jab, can switch from orthodox to southpaw as well as about anyone I've ever seen and has some power, even though it's not great. If everything falls into place, Fury turning into a Lennox Lewis or a Klitschko is possible, albeit not probable. He has no class, but otherwise you guys are just on the hate bandwagon by belittling his obvious talent.

I''m not calling Fury garbage at all. I've only witnessed one of his fights so I'm not qualified to give an opinion on his future potential but what I do know is that he's not the fighter of the year in any capacity for winning a fight where not a significant punch landed for 12 rounds. He won one of the worst championship fights I've ever seen. Ever. Nothing even comes close.

I think that Wlad beats him down in the rematch anyway so we'll be back to square one with that robot ruining the division again. Ortiz, Joshua and Wilder are the future stars of the division, not Fury.

Ricky_ wrote:I have Tyson Furry #1 at HW by virtue of beating old man clinchers. But his stint at the top ends against the first decent HW capable of fighting on the inside and has a bit of pop.

How many decent heavyweights capable of fighting on the inside with a bit of pop are there?

Horse wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:I have Tyson Furry #1 at HW by virtue of beating old man clinchers. But his stint at the top ends against the first decent HW capable of fighting on the inside and has a bit of pop.

How many decent heavyweights capable of fighting on the inside with a bit of pop are there?

King Kong is the obvious one but it's besides the point, he doesn't get extra credit for the divisions lack of talent.