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sammy95 wrote:Terrifically sad state of affairs really.

It is a delight to see how the boxing public have reacted though, nothing but worry and support for big Frank!

I don't think it's a delight. Thread contains a lot of talk about how "outrageous" all these "unscruplous b*stards" are that would seek to "[USE AND MANIPULATE]" the **BIG FELLA**.

....when insofar as I can make out, noone's said a "THING" about this [false] SITUATION.

Bruno-Flintoff.

He was talking about his medication keeping him awake all the time etc. and he needs to burn it off.

Someone should try and push him down the triathlon (Ramsey for instance) route or something like that, he'll soon lose all that excess energy.
He's clearly a fit man so why not do something that physically tires you without getting hit in the face.

Thats a good idea mate.
Honestly frank is like being his worst enemy...why does he not get it, that the public , boxibg, and yes anthony joshua all respect him deeply.why doesnt he train people,be a referee,take up masters bodybuilding,...enjoy his life. This mental illness he gained from drug abuse isnt going to be helped by idiot doctors givibg him more drugs....he should turn to the lord and be cured.

Theres a million things frank could and should be doing to enjoy his life.im sure there are no shortage of women interested in him...he needs to change his attitude and get back to being the old frank.

Our prayers are with him,im sure the big man will come through

Judah Ben Fur wrote:Thats a good idea mate.
Honestly frank is like being his worst enemy...why does he not get it, that the public , boxibg, and yes anthony joshua all respect him deeply.why doesnt he train people,be a referee,take up masters bodybuilding,...enjoy his life. This mental illness he gained from drug abuse isnt going to be helped by idiot doctors givibg him more drugs....he should turn to the lord and be cured.

Theres a million things frank could and should be doing to enjoy his life.im sure there are no shortage of women interested in him...he needs to change his attitude and get back to being the old frank.

Our prayers are with him,im sure the big man will come through

When I met him he was with his wife, and she was doing everything for him.

Judah Ben Fur wrote: This mental illness he gained from drug abuse isnt going to be helped by idiot doctors givibg him more drugs....he should turn to the lord and be cured.

Please tell me you're taking the piss?

I don't know what Frank's doing to keep in such good shape but judging by watching for a few seconds on the pad it hasn't been boxing training.
He doesn't look like a 54 year old but he moves like a 64 year old. He clearly needs a competitive outlet.

Couldn't he become a figure head at his local amateur gym and try and keep up with the young guys with their sprints & drills and maybe some controlled sparring on occasion. Maybe even bodybuilding as someone mentioned (no 'supplements' though). Something that is physically demanding but won't cause him damage.

Shirow wrote:I don't know what Frank's doing to keep in such good shape but judging by watching for a few seconds on the pad it hasn't been boxing training.
He doesn't look like a 54 year old but he moves like a 64 year old. He clearly needs a competitive outlet.

Couldn't he become a figure head at his local amateur gym and try and keep up with the young guys with their sprints & drills and maybe some controlled sparring on occasion. Maybe even bodybuilding as someone mentioned (no 'supplements' though). Something that is physically demanding but won't cause him damage.

Frank has always moved like a 64 year old!

He was slower than an arthritic snail when he was in his 20s.

I may be In the minority here.... But I want Frank to make a comeback. For one night only, on a pay per view extravaganza... The long awaited rematch - Frank Bruno vs Chuck Gardner.

In fact maybe it can be a prizefighter type night... 2nd semi final Joe Bugner vs Anders Eklund

reggaereggae wrote:I may be In the minority here.... But I want Frank to make a comeback. For one night only, on a pay per view extravaganza... The long awaited rematch - Frank Bruno vs Chuck Gardner.

In fact maybe it can be a prizefighter type night... 2nd semi final Joe Bugner vs Anders Eklund

And if we have

Steffen Tangstad vs John Westgarth

And...

Andy Gerrard vs Chris Jacobs

Then we are all set for a more entertaining prizefighter than anything recently dished up.

Fat Git wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:I may be In the minority here.... But I want Frank to make a comeback. For one night only, on a pay per view extravaganza... The long awaited rematch - Frank Bruno vs Chuck Gardner.

In fact maybe it can be a prizefighter type night... 2nd semi final Joe Bugner vs Anders Eklund

And if we have

Steffen Tangstad vs John Westgarth

And...

Andy Gerrard vs Chris Jacobs

Then we are all set for a more entertaining prizefighter than anything recently dished up.

I would definitely pay to see that! Are we sure all these guys are still alive though! :P

reggaereggae wrote:

Fat Git wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:I may be In the minority here.... But I want Frank to make a comeback. For one night only, on a pay per view extravaganza... The long awaited rematch - Frank Bruno vs Chuck Gardner.

In fact maybe it can be a prizefighter type night... 2nd semi final Joe Bugner vs Anders Eklund

And if we have

Steffen Tangstad vs John Westgarth

And...

Andy Gerrard vs Chris Jacobs

Then we are all set for a more entertaining prizefighter than anything recently dished up.

I would definitely pay to see that! Are we sure all these guys are still alive though! :P

Poor Anders, we can substitute him for Alfredo Evangelista - he is looking pretty peaky for nearly 60.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnLmq_FzJPU

Fat Git wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:

Fat Git wrote:
And if we have

Steffen Tangstad vs John Westgarth

And...

Andy Gerrard vs Chris Jacobs

Then we are all set for a more entertaining prizefighter than anything recently dished up.

I would definitely pay to see that! Are we sure all these guys are still alive though! :P

Poor Anders, we can substitute him for Alfredo Evangelista - he is looking pretty peaky for nearly 60.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnLmq_FzJPU

Lord, I didn't actually know Eklund had died.... What a shame. But yes, Evangelista looks great. Is Jean Pierre Coopman or Lucien Rodriguez still alive??

Also I never realised that steffen Tangstad got a draw againt Buster Douglas in buster's hometown..... I love Boxrec you find out some fantastic things.....

reggaereggae wrote:

Fat Git wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:
I would definitely pay to see that! Are we sure all these guys are still alive though! :P

Poor Anders, we can substitute him for Alfredo Evangelista - he is looking pretty peaky for nearly 60.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnLmq_FzJPU

Lord, I didn't actually know Eklund had died.... What a shame. But yes, Evangelista looks great. Is Jean Pierre Coopman or Lucien Rodriguez still alive??

Also I never realised that steffen Tangstad got a draw againt Buster Douglas in buster's hometown..... I love Boxrec you find out some fantastic things.....

You know you are just giving Young Hearn and Fwank ideas?

Yup, Coopman and Lucien Rodriguez are still alive but Felipe 'Pantera' Rodriguez died some time ago, of a brain haemorrage.

Fat Git wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:

Fat Git wrote:
Poor Anders, we can substitute him for Alfredo Evangelista - he is looking pretty peaky for nearly 60.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnLmq_FzJPU

Lord, I didn't actually know Eklund had died.... What a shame. But yes, Evangelista looks great. Is Jean Pierre Coopman or Lucien Rodriguez still alive??

Also I never realised that steffen Tangstad got a draw againt Buster Douglas in buster's hometown..... I love Boxrec you find out some fantastic things.....

You know you are just giving Young Hearn and Fwank ideas?

Yup, Coopman and Lucien Rodriguez are still alive but Felipe 'Pantera' Rodriguez died some time ago, of a brain haemorrage.

Damn.... Would Ruddie Lubbers be considered too old now to be a reserve?

Shirow wrote:I don't know what Frank's doing to keep in such good shape but judging by watching for a few seconds on the pad it hasn't been boxing training.
He doesn't look like a 54 year old but he moves like a 64 year old. He clearly needs a competitive outlet.

Couldn't he become a figure head at his local amateur gym and try and keep up with the young guys with their sprints & drills and maybe some controlled sparring on occasion. Maybe even bodybuilding as someone mentioned (no 'supplements' though). Something that is physically demanding but won't cause him damage.

Yes Bruno probably could but nothing I doubt is a substitute to actually getting in there and having it, a very hard thing to walkaway from after reaching the highs he did.

Should be a figure head. Personally, and I don't wish to do him a disservice, I'm not sure he would make a great trainer for boxing (many claim it was his lack of tactical nouse which cost him in a few times). He would obviously make an excellent fitness coach and what a figure head he would be..... his was a real life rocky story.

Found this of Bruno training in his peak.... it is a world apart from his pad work with Ricky, although even here he was so much better jabbing on the pads than hooking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZoBtA0TLKc

I remember Mickey Duff saying that Bruno had better jab than Lennox Lewis and he did!

This is such a sad thing to hear. Bruno was my idol growing up, and I remember like yesterday bawling my eyes out in the pub when he finally won the world title. This is a sad sign of the state of mental health care today. Frank is clearly a poorly man and needs intervention if these thoughts are seriously entering his mind.
I along with the rest of the country(probably) would be much happier to see big frank in someone's corner or advising in a gym rather than lacing up the gloves and fighting again.
Use your energy in your fight against your illness frank .please please please.............

Judah Ben Fur wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:
Frank will never be a 'normal' person mentally again. .

This is just about the most ignorant statement ive ever read on these pages. Who are you to make such a statement mate? He was fine for all his adult life until he started talking cocaine and other drugs.Plenty of people have blips in life and recover fully....David Bowie was one of them.You are not a mental health expert or a doctor .you shouldnt write things like this.what if frank read it?

Please dont think I was calling or referring to Frank as in a bad way. This was from experience of mental illness and how people suffer for many many years or for the rest of their lives. I knoww hat im talking about here and did not intend it to mean otherwise, maybe I should have put it a different way, but im sorry facts are facts, from personal experience

dinkybob wrote:This is such a sad thing to hear. Bruno was my idol growing up, and I remember like yesterday bawling my eyes out in the pub when he finally won the world title. This is a sad sign of the state of mental health care today. Frank is clearly a poorly man and needs intervention if these thoughts are seriously entering his mind.
I along with the rest of the country(probably) would be much happier to see big frank in someone's corner or advising in a gym rather than lacing up the gloves and fighting again.
Use your energy in your fight against your illness frank .please please please.............

And this is even sadder http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2016/02/ ... rom-mbc-vp

Why? I suppose everyone has to go through the correct procedure before refusing him.

mickey1975 wrote:Why? I suppose everyone has to go through the correct procedure before refusing him.

Because he's 54 years old, hasn't boxed for 20 years, clearly isn't fit to box when you watch the footage of him on the pads and has a history of serious problems with mental illness.

expe wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Why? I suppose everyone has to go through the correct procedure before refusing him.

Because he's 54 years old, hasn't boxed for 20 years, clearly isn't fit to box when you watch the footage of him on the pads and has a history of serious problems with mental illness.

Yes, and it's an open and shut case but they will still have to go through the procedure.

Hearn signed him up yet?