My Mayweather Prediction

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Re: My Mayweather Prediction

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DrunkenBoxer wrote:I am not sure if anyone else has said this but...

I predict Mayweather will return for one more fight when someone in the welterweight division is truly recognized as #1, possibly by unification and distinguishes themselves as the top dog like Mayweather once was. Mayweather will challenge him to try prove he is still the best one more time and also collect a big pay check, then retire for good.
Before Berto, I was thinking pretty much the same thing; albeit, someone specifically in mind... Khan.

Floyd (and his people natch), I felt, would need the "right" money, which is somewhere between half and everything in Abu Dhabi, but, still it would happen... If Khan does face Saúl, he (Khan) has all but assured that that will never happen.

I'm not sure there is another fighter @147 that will draw Floyd out right now... 6 months... who knows, the landscape changes pretty quickly in the Abercrombie & Fitch division...
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punchoutsb wrote:So Floyd doesn't have to be the bad guy to sell fights because people watch Floyd because they want to see him lose? There's a contradiction there somewhere...

Anyway, I've hardly heard any clamoring in the streets for Pac's head. Aside from NIKE, no one seems to care. If you think boxing massive homosexual fanbase is itching to watch a second Floyd/Manny snooze-fest then you're kidding yourself.
At no point did I say that boxing has a huge homosexual fanbase, but I have seen how the LBGC come out against those who go against them so it won't be a surprise to me if they show up in droves to protest Manny.

When was the last time Floyd actually played a bad guy?? I haven't seen it in years, he doesn't have to do that any longer, everyone in the world knows who he is.

People hate him so they want to see him lose which is why they show up for his bouts, if you think he's playing the bad guy then show us in his last fight since Hatton was the only time I've seen him do it.

He defended himself against Ortiz jumping in his face by choking him but he wasn't playing no bad guy.

Do a poll here and ask the question and give them only two choices and see what they pick.

Why do people want to see Floyd fights?

1. Because he's the Bad Guy
2. Because they want to see him Lose by KO
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Re: My Mayweather Prediction

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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:So Floyd doesn't have to be the bad guy to sell fights because people watch Floyd because they want to see him lose? There's a contradiction there somewhere...

Anyway, I've hardly heard any clamoring in the streets for Pac's head. Aside from NIKE, no one seems to care. If you think boxing massive homosexual fanbase is itching to watch a second Floyd/Manny snooze-fest then you're kidding yourself.
At no point did I say that boxing has a huge homosexual fanbase, but I have seen how the LBGC come out against those who go against them so it won't be a surprise to me if they show up in droves to protest Manny.

When was the last time Floyd actually played a bad guy?? I haven't seen it in years, he doesn't have to do that any longer, everyone in the world knows who he is.

People hate him so they want to see him lose which is why they show up for his bouts, if you think he's playing the bad guy then show us in his last fight since Hatton was the only time I've seen him do it.

He defended himself against Ortiz jumping in his face by choking him but he wasn't playing no bad guy.

Do a poll here and ask the question and give them only two choices and see what they pick.

Why do people want to see Floyd fights?

1. Because he's the Bad Guy
2. Because they want to see him Lose by KO
You think Manny is way more famous/infamous than he is. I highly doubt "droves" of LGBT (not sure what LBGC is...maybe some new acronym) will show up to any boxing event.

As to the rest of your post, you spend an inordinate amount of time telling me that Floyd doesn't play the bad guy, then list him being the bad guy as the number one reason why people watch his fights. I think you've answered your own question haven't you?

And the whole reason the "bad guy" thing was brought up in the first place was because you said Floyd would use Pac's comments against him, meaning he would be championing LGBT for this fight, which is clearly ridiculous.
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punchoutsb wrote:You think Manny is way more famous/infamous than he is. I highly doubt "droves" of LGBT (not sure what LBGC is...maybe some new acronym) will show up to any boxing event.

As to the rest of your post, you spend an inordinate amount of time telling me that Floyd doesn't play the bad guy, then list him being the bad guy as the number one reason why people watch his fights. I think you've answered your own question haven't you?

And the whole reason the "bad guy" thing was brought up in the first place was because you said Floyd would use Pac's comments against him, meaning he would be championing LGBT for this fight, which is clearly ridiculous.
LBGC=Lesbian Gay Community

Floyd is considered by many as the bad guy because of his past, what has he been doing lately that makes him the "bad guy"??

Nothing!!

So no, I haven't answered my own question, there is a difference in someone who goes out there bad mouthing everyone trying to come off as the bad guy vs someone who is perceived as the bad guy based on their past. <<<I'm not sure why you are incapable of seeing the difference in the two but somehow you are.

Floyd will use whatever he have to in order to sell his fights, it isn't above him to try and appeal to the LGBT (the common term) to bring up the hype in hopes that those type of people will come out and go against Manny. I'm not sure why you are unable to see that he would try to drum up their support.

Really like I said, if you really wanted to know if people watch Floyd because he's the bad guy (I can assure you it isn't because for most he isn't all that exciting) or because they want to see him lose (especially getting knocked out cold) then all you have to do is make a Poll.

People don't watch Mayweather because he tries to be a "Bad Guy" before his fights (he stopped doing that years ago), they dislike/Hate him so they want to see him get defeated/humbled either by decision or preferably by KO.

I'm done, we just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: My Mayweather Prediction

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Undefeated49-0 wrote:LBGC=Lesbian Gay Community

Floyd is considered by many as the bad guy because of his past, what has he been doing lately that makes him the "bad guy"??

Nothing!!
What has Charles Manson done lately? Obviously a stretch, but domestic abuse, homophobia, racism, and overall douchery tends to follow you even when you start quieting down a little.
Undefeated49-0 wrote: So no, I haven't answered my own question, there is a difference in someone who goes out there bad mouthing everyone trying to come off as the bad guy vs someone who is perceived as the bad guy based on their past. <<<I'm not sure why you are incapable of seeing the difference in the two but somehow you are.
I can clearly see the difference when it's there. The problem is (whether right or wrong) it's not there with Floyd.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Floyd will use whatever he have to in order to sell his fights, it isn't above him to try and appeal to the LGBT (the common term) to bring up the hype in hopes that those type of people will come out and go against Manny. I'm not sure why you are unable to see that he would try to drum up their support.
And I'm not sure why you would think anyone would care, given Floyd comments and attitudes in the past. I'm also not sure why you think the LGBT will boycott and protest Pac/Bradley but will throw money at Floyd/Pac.
Undefeated49-0 wrote:Really like I said, if you really wanted to know if people watch Floyd because he's the bad guy (I can assure you it isn't because for most he isn't all that exciting) or because they want to see him lose (especially getting knocked out cold) then all you have to do is make a Poll.
I'm having trouble deciphering this sentence, but it seems like you're assuring me people don't dislike Floyd for being a bad guy but they watch his fights because they dislike him because he's a bad guy. Or something like that...
Undefeated49-0 wrote:People don't watch Mayweather because he tries to be a "Bad Guy" before his fights (he stopped doing that years ago), they dislike/Hate him so they want to see him get defeated/humbled either by decision or preferably by KO.
Never did I say he talked trash before his fights. At the end of the day if somebody thinks your bad because or past, present, or future the end result is the same.
Undefeated49-0 wrote:I'm done, we just have to agree to disagree.
:salut:
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punchoutsb wrote:What has Charles Manson done lately? Obviously a stretch, but domestic abuse, homophobia, racism, and overall douchery tends to follow you even when you start quieting down a little.

MANSON STILL TALKS ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE IF HE GETS OUT!! Floyd doesn't talk of abusing women, he isn't getting into any trouble with the law or the average Security Guard. Honestly you should know all of this by now.


I can clearly see the difference when it's there. The problem is (whether right or wrong) it's not there with Floyd.


I'm having trouble deciphering this sentence, but it seems like you're assuring me people don't dislike Floyd for being a bad guy but they watch his fights because they dislike him because he's a bad guy. Or something like that...


PERCEPTION IS NOT REALITY, they may think of Floyd as a "bad guy" but in reality he is not doing anything to reinforce their negative stereotype of him being that so called "bad guy".


Never did I say he talked trash before his fights. At the end of the day if somebody thinks your bad because or past, present, or future the end result is the same.

I AGREE WITH THE LAST PART OF YOUR STATEMENT.............BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE "THINKS" THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS SO

At the end of the day Tyson was far worse than Floyd with his antics and trash talk and other demeaning attitudes yet no one considers him a "bad guy" right now; so why should they consider Floyd one?? (rhetorical). The point is that Bad Guys continue being bad guys more often than not and thus they continually secure their reputation by repeated acts that shows you just who they are, Floyd isn't getting into trouble with anyone, he's just making money and flashing it.

If that makes him the bad guy then that is pretty lame thinking and accountability for who and what he is today, wouldn't you agree??
:salut:

My responses are in BOLD, sorry about the CAPS but I was trying to make it more obvious where I was writing at times but I'm not yelling at you.
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Undefeated49-0 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:What has Charles Manson done lately? Obviously a stretch, but domestic abuse, homophobia, racism, and overall douchery tends to follow you even when you start quieting down a little.

MANSON STILL TALKS ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE IF HE GETS OUT!! Floyd doesn't talk of abusing women, he isn't getting into any trouble with the law or the average Security Guard. Honestly you should know all of this by now.


I can clearly see the difference when it's there. The problem is (whether right or wrong) it's not there with Floyd.


I'm having trouble deciphering this sentence, but it seems like you're assuring me people don't dislike Floyd for being a bad guy but they watch his fights because they dislike him because he's a bad guy. Or something like that...


PERCEPTION IS NOT REALITY, they may think of Floyd as a "bad guy" but in reality he is not doing anything to reinforce their negative stereotype of him being that so called "bad guy".


Never did I say he talked trash before his fights. At the end of the day if somebody thinks your bad because or past, present, or future the end result is the same.

I AGREE WITH THE LAST PART OF YOUR STATEMENT.............BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE "THINKS" THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS SO

At the end of the day Tyson was far worse than Floyd with his antics and trash talk and other demeaning attitudes yet no one considers him a "bad guy" right now; so why should they consider Floyd one?? (rhetorical). The point is that Bad Guys continue being bad guys more often than not and thus they continually secure their reputation by repeated acts that shows you just who they are, Floyd isn't getting into trouble with anyone, he's just making money and flashing it.

If that makes him the bad guy then that is pretty lame thinking and accountability for who and what he is today, wouldn't you agree??
:salut:

My responses are in BOLD, sorry about the CAPS but I was trying to make it more obvious where I was writing at times but I'm not yelling at you.
You may find this surprising, but I like Floyd in a lot of ways. One of the reasons I like him is his generosity.

At the end of the day, this whole exchange started because you felt Floyd could get the gay community behind him against Manny. I disagree.
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Re: My Mayweather Prediction

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punchoutsb wrote:
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:What has Charles Manson done lately? Obviously a stretch, but domestic abuse, homophobia, racism, and overall douchery tends to follow you even when you start quieting down a little.

MANSON STILL TALKS ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE IF HE GETS OUT!! Floyd doesn't talk of abusing women, he isn't getting into any trouble with the law or the average Security Guard. Honestly you should know all of this by now.


I can clearly see the difference when it's there. The problem is (whether right or wrong) it's not there with Floyd.


I'm having trouble deciphering this sentence, but it seems like you're assuring me people don't dislike Floyd for being a bad guy but they watch his fights because they dislike him because he's a bad guy. Or something like that...


PERCEPTION IS NOT REALITY, they may think of Floyd as a "bad guy" but in reality he is not doing anything to reinforce their negative stereotype of him being that so called "bad guy".


Never did I say he talked trash before his fights. At the end of the day if somebody thinks your bad because or past, present, or future the end result is the same.

I AGREE WITH THE LAST PART OF YOUR STATEMENT.............BUT JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE "THINKS" THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS SO

At the end of the day Tyson was far worse than Floyd with his antics and trash talk and other demeaning attitudes yet no one considers him a "bad guy" right now; so why should they consider Floyd one?? (rhetorical). The point is that Bad Guys continue being bad guys more often than not and thus they continually secure their reputation by repeated acts that shows you just who they are, Floyd isn't getting into trouble with anyone, he's just making money and flashing it.

If that makes him the bad guy then that is pretty lame thinking and accountability for who and what he is today, wouldn't you agree??
:salut:

My responses are in BOLD, sorry about the CAPS but I was trying to make it more obvious where I was writing at times but I'm not yelling at you.
You may find this surprising, but I like Floyd in a lot of ways. One of the reasons I like him is his generosity.

At the end of the day, this whole exchange started because you felt Floyd could get the gay community behind him against Manny. I disagree.
Me too.... If they ever fought again it will all be forgotten. Swept under the rug. Pacquiao already apologized anyways. Maybe he was trying to say he wouldn't put it past Mayweather to pull a stunt like this on a opponent (Pacquiao)
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Re: My Mayweather Prediction

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MachoTime wrote:Me too.... If they ever fought again it will all be forgotten. Swept under the rug. Pacquiao already apologized anyways. Maybe he was trying to say he wouldn't put it past Mayweather to pull a stunt like this on a opponent (Pacquiao)
Exactly!! Floyd may not be able to get the LBGT behind him fully but I'm certain he will raise that soundbite that Pacquiao made at every turn to try and turn people against Manny and sell tickets in the process, he (Mayweather) knows people hate him so any heat off of him and that makes him look like he's concerned then I'm certain he will do it.

Will the entire LBGT come out and support Floyd? Not likely but I'm certain there will be a small contingent that will be there to remind Manny of the things he said despite his apology, they will not let him forget it.
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