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Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 13:53
by Rexob
Horse wrote:
HEAVYWEIGHT

JOHN MCDERMOTT (Holder) v HUGHIE FURY

Hughie Fury withdrew from the above contest.
Why not just fight him?

Why pull out like all of the others?

http://www.bbbofc.com/content/english-c ... march-2016

Risk reward?

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 13:56
by Horse
Rexob wrote:Risk reward?
That's not the attitude of a real fighting man.

If he's too afraid to fight John McDermott then that doesn't bode well for his future.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 14:16
by Rexob
Horse wrote:
Rexob wrote:Risk reward?
That's not the attitude of a real fighting man.

If he's too afraid to fight John McDermott then that doesn't bode well for his future.

I doubt he is scared to fight anyone.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 14:20
by Horse
Rexob wrote:I doubt he is scared to fight anyone.
Then why pull out?

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 20:43
by ClivePatrickLyons
He isn't as good as Tyson Fury and Joshua would destroy him.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 21:01
by BitPlayer
Is there any evidence this fight was ever going to happen? All I got there was a dead link, I was looking up John and the most recent stuff I could see about him was a very brief thing saying he thought Tyson could beat Wlad, and something saying he favoured Tyson against Haye. Would John even want it? He's not fought for so long, and said before he has no interest in being a journeyman. Anyway the British title is now vacant so it'd make much more sense to go for that.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 05:12
by Bard of Boxrec
HomicideHenry wrote:Hughie needs more depthful fights. So far, so good. I think in the next three years, we'll see his name be mentioned among the top tiers internationally. For now, though, I expect more fights with solid journeymen and maybe a few faded ex-names, and the occasional prospect. Call me crazy, but I'd like to see Hughie in a match with Johahn Duaphas. Why? He's big, he's tough, he keeps coming forward, and has some good power. That's the sort of man that Hughie needs to fight and test his mettle against. That's a guy you pack your lunch and dinner for, and have to constantly be working, else you are in trouble. But, that being said Duhapas is one speed and he can be out boxed (and even out slugged). There's enough holes in his game that a guy like Hughie could take advantage of. As a fan, I'd really love to see Hughie fight the Dillian Whyte's and others on the domestic scene, but I don't see it happening. The idea with Hughie is not to become a British title holder, or European title holder, but to become a genuine contender.
Duhauppas would be too much for Hughie.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 06:17
by Horse
BitPlayer wrote:Is there any evidence this fight was ever going to happen? All I got there was a dead link, I was looking up John and the most recent stuff I could see about him was a very brief thing saying he thought Tyson could beat Wlad, and something saying he favoured Tyson against Haye. Would John even want it? He's not fought for so long, and said before he has no interest in being a journeyman. Anyway the British title is now vacant so it'd make much more sense to go for that.
Are you calling me a liar?

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 06:39
by BitPlayer
Horse wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:Is there any evidence this fight was ever going to happen? All I got there was a dead link, I was looking up John and the most recent stuff I could see about him was a very brief thing saying he thought Tyson could beat Wlad, and something saying he favoured Tyson against Haye. Would John even want it? He's not fought for so long, and said before he has no interest in being a journeyman. Anyway the British title is now vacant so it'd make much more sense to go for that.
Are you calling me a liar?
I don't know you, I have no reason to trust you or think you are a liar. But the link is dead, and this seems like something that'd be talked about somewhere.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 06:52
by Horse
BitPlayer wrote:I don't know you, I have no reason to trust you or think you are a liar. But the link is dead, and this seems like something that'd be talked about somewhere.
You've got me, I made it up.

Ha, ha, ha! People actually believed me as well!

What suckers!

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 07:42
by Rexob
Horse wrote:
Rexob wrote:I doubt he is scared to fight anyone.
Then why pull out?

Because it's a business Horse nothing to do with being scared of anyone.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 07:53
by Horse
Rexob wrote:Because it's a business Horse nothing to do with being scared of anyone.
How is winning the English title bad for business?

Unless they think that McDermott will win and that seems like fear to me.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 21:42
by Wales
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Pretty well rounded fighter for his age, and seems quite fluid, I'd say he's the potential to be better than his more famous relative. Depends how he develops though.
Agree with James.

Is he that good? Only British fighter to ever win gold as a super heavyweight at world junior amateur championships. Dont think they give them away.

His biggest "problem" has been turning pro. Only so many dustmen you can beat before "fans" want to see him step up. Lewis turned pro at 24, joshua was 24, Vitali 25... Hughie turned at 18. Hed be best having 40 odd learning fights, wouldnt he?

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 02:01
by nitro5912
Wales wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Pretty well rounded fighter for his age, and seems quite fluid, I'd say he's the potential to be better than his more famous relative. Depends how he develops though.
Agree with James.

Is he that good? Only British fighter to ever win gold as a super heavyweight at world junior amateur championships. Dont think they give them away.

His biggest "problem" has been turning pro. Only so many dustmen you can beat before "fans" want to see him step up. Lewis turned pro at 24, joshua was 24, Vitali 25... Hughie turned at 18. Hed be best having 40 odd learning fights, wouldnt he?
He will mostake likely have a fair few more "learning" fights before trying to do anything

He is talented, his gold shows that but I think with the melting pot of British heavyweights their is a good domestic scene and one that I think hughie could mix with now.
I think he'd beat price, Whyte would be a good 50/50 fight, then theirs chisora,haye,AJ all down the line. No need to rush him yet. But fans will want him to step up soon

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 08:10
by Oiky
far less unnessecary hype surrounds hughie and at his age there is really no need to rush him at all.

he has plenty of skills and plenty of time to sharpen them and i think he will be around for a very long time :bag:

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 08:53
by THEBUTCH
I think he's an excellent talent and has already move beyond prospect by easily beating Rudenko (and that was coming back from illness). The Guinn win was good too.

Mick's doing a great job bringing him along and IMO it's amazing the guy is still only 21. He has plenty of time and shouldn't be rushed or getting beaten up, but I hope he will moved into a British title fight this year.

Tyson Fury's at the top of the tree so if Mick and the Fury's time things right there could be a nice passing over of the baton when Hughie is ready to box, and win, a world title.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 13:04
by Tuan_Jim
Must be difficult staying sharp biffing human punchbags about. People who say there's no need to rush Hughie need to consider how this current career path will stall his development. It's rare that a man boxes this many bad fighters for this long and emerges a complete package.

Re: Is Hughie Fury that good?

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 13:30
by mickey1975
Tuan_Jim wrote:Must be difficult staying sharp biffing human punchbags about. People who say there's no need to rush Hughie need to consider how this current career path will stall his development. It's rare that a man boxes this many bad fighters for this long and emerges a complete package.
He learns much more in the gym. It's rare that a man has top quality training camps and world class sparring from day one.