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Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 12 Jul 2016, 18:58
by Cyclops
Finn wrote:Apparently GGG is a small middle weight as well?
The same logic as "Kell Brook is a massive welter" is the same logic that can be applied to GGG. If Kell Brook should really be a MW, what's he doing at 147? If GGG's such a tiny little guy, why didn't he clear out the smaller weights before hitting 160? The answer is he couldn't. He'd have drained himself for the payday against Floyd, in the same way Kell is going to seriously handicap himself here. GGG's not a massive MW, like Kelly Pavlik or Chavez Jnr. But bollocks is he a small MW. If he was that small he wouldn't have been a career MW and would have met Canelo at his catchweight with ease. He's a natural MW and takes his training seriously, so he doesn't have to drain and he doesn't carry unnecessary bulk. He's more of a sinewy guy. People talk about Martinez, but Martinez genuinely WAS a small MW: he turned over at welter, I believe? And was really a LMW who fought at MW to get the big fights. I'm just not comfortable when people say the same thing about GGG.
I'll be very interested to see them next to each other in the press conferences and stuff.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 13 Jul 2016, 04:39
by jamesmcdonnell
Finn wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:littlepug wrote:
probably the best welter he ever faced, kells got no chance here and would also lose to eubank, dont know why people think its dead easy to jump up a couple of divisions and still be the same fighter, as a welter he only just sneaked past carson jones and porter but jumping up 2 weight divisions to take on GGG should be do-able ?
All this talk about Kell being a big welter, and how he struggles to make weight, and how he'll be better at 160, is the same balls we were given before Khan fought Canelo - if that were true, Brook would be fighting at 160 already, and as we know, he isn't.
Brook will get torn to pieces as soon as GGG lands a few flush shots, and everyone will wake up from their dream. It's a daft fight.
Apparently GGG is a small middle weight as well?
He's genuine 160 lb fighter, not a particularly big one, but brook is not, nor has brook fought a genuine MW.
Small(ish) or not, GGG hits hard enough to flatten men far bigger than brook, it's going to be a completely one sided beatdown.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 13 Jul 2016, 10:08
by wesshaw1985
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 13 Jul 2016, 10:51
by Bard of Boxrec
I really wish Brook were fighting Canelo instead. Now that would have been an intriguing fight.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 13 Jul 2016, 11:11
by jamesmcdonnell
Riddick Blowe wrote:I really wish Brook were fighting Canelo instead. Now that would have been an intriguing fight.
Think he'd still get done though.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 13 Jul 2016, 11:53
by Cyclops
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 13 Jul 2016, 17:23
by Bard of Boxrec
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:I really wish Brook were fighting Canelo instead. Now that would have been an intriguing fight.
Think he'd still get done though.
I'm not sure . It would definitely have been a tough fight, but winnable.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 13 Jul 2016, 17:52
by Kalan
The fight could go 12.. I see about a 30% chance of that.. Brook is a very big Welterweight and Golovkin is a mid sized Middleweight.. Brook will enter the ring about 168 or so -- to about 170 for Golovkin.. I see GGG controlling with his better jab, speed, and boxing skills..
Brooks is a very tough man.. If Golovkin can't find the KO it's not going to bother him.. GGG realizes, that if Brook can go 12 rounds it's going to open things up a bit for him a bit in the Middleweight Division.. Guys like Jacobs, Eubanks, Saunders, and CanYellow may want to fight him.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 13 Jul 2016, 17:56
by Counter-puncher
What's your evidence for brook being tough?
Hes barely broken sweat in his entire career, 6 rounds against Carson Jones aside.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 12:55
by wesshaw1985
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 14:22
by wesshaw1985
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 16:47
by wesshaw1985
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 17:55
by gazza8
Would much rather have seen Eubank Jnr v GGG...
Jnr would have been bigger on the night and have a stronger chin at this level.
As long as Brook doesnt get blown away in a round or 2 then there are big domest fights at that weight which will be better paydays than the jojo Dans of this world.
That being said the fight ends when GGG wants to end it. Brook simply cant take the shots of GGG and his upright stance will come back to haunt him...hes no naz....i can see a KO of Khan Canelo proportions
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 18:28
by MightyWarrior
So Hearn's idea of getting his man ready is to put him in with 3 completely overmatched feather fisted no hopers for the last 2 years, then straight in with the most fearsome fighter out there, two divisions up.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 22:55
by Grilling Machine
Golovkin looked like a man browsing a garden centre in their head-to-head. Brook's pumps of the fist seemed more like a search for self-belief than a consequence of assured conviction. He's confident of turning up and giving his best, I'm certain, but he knows how dicey this'll be. I hope he does well.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 14 Jul 2016, 23:15
by SFW
Grilling Machine wrote:Golovkin looked like a man browsing a garden centre in their head-to-head. Brook's pumps of the fist seemed more like a search for self-belief than a consequence of assured conviction. He's confident of turning up and giving his best, I'm certain, but he knows how dicey this'll be. I hope he does well.
Yeah Golovkin almost laughed you can see the amusement there.. he's going to walk through Brook like it's nothing, as he should.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 15 Jul 2016, 01:50
by Deserter
Grilling Machine wrote:Golovkin looked like a man browsing a garden centre in their head-to-head
Quote of the year!

Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 15 Jul 2016, 05:31
by Counter-puncher
Deserter wrote:Grilling Machine wrote:Golovkin looked like a man browsing a garden centre in their head-to-head
Quote of the year!


Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 15 Jul 2016, 08:50
by johnswan1
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Over inside 6. It's a total mismatch.
This.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 15 Jul 2016, 09:01
by jamesmcdonnell
MightyWarrior wrote:So Hearn's idea of getting his man ready is to put him in with 3 completely overmatched feather fisted no hopers for the last 2 years, then straight in with the most fearsome fighter out there, two divisions up.
It's like winning a couple of friendlies against San Marino and Grenada, in preparation for playing Germany.
Hearn for England manager!
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 16 Jul 2016, 22:21
by Grilling Machine
Counter-puncher wrote:Deserter wrote:Grilling Machine wrote:Golovkin looked like a man browsing a garden centre in their head-to-head
Quote of the year!


He was given pause for thought a couple of times to price up his topsoil. But seriously, a whole bunch of people have let Brook down here. This is DeGale's fight; Brook deserves a shot at Thurman. Too many sharks - Malignaggi's long been right on that.
I'll watch it, but knowing I'm complicit in my own small way'll cast a shadow.
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 30 Jul 2016, 13:39
by wesshaw1985
London press conference is due Monday...
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 12:42
by wesshaw1985
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 14:05
by Tomasino
That dolt Kugan needs someone to write his questions, almost a waste of an interview. Like Golovkin said "he is clown"
Re: Gennady Golovkin vs. Kell Brook - September 10th 2016
Posted: 01 Aug 2016, 14:11
by Stuarty
Who the hell dressed Kell?