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Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 07:24
by jamesmcdonnell
Yes, shot to shit against anyone decent. It surprises me that anyone thinks he can beat Vitali at this stage of his career, Vitali wouldn't intimidate, and in fact I think Tyson would very likely be the one who shit his pants.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 07:32
by DavidPayne
Tyson ha smuch lower risk fights for more money than Kltischko.
Tarver, Toney, Jirov, Brewster, Ruiz and Holyfield are all money-spinning contests with much lower risk.
Remember Tyson has been here before - fighting Savarese, Nielson, Norris, Francis etc when all the time the Lewis fight was sitting there.
Truth was Tyson didn't want it until he had nowhere else to go.
Roach may think Klitschko's on the radar but he's wrong. Vitali isn't on the radar until IF OR WHEN all the other pay-days are worn out.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 08:53
by jamesmcdonnell
I will wager that Toney will whup Tyson's ass if they ever fight. His chin is too good, handspeed too good, punchpower underrated, shot selection, defence, mental fortitude, and all around skills, too much.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 10:43
by DavidPayne
I wouldn't back Tyson against anyone of those I mention except maybe Tarver.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 10:45
by jamesmcdonnell
Tarver isn't as good defensively, and can be hurt at light heavyweight. Toney has never looked vulnerable at any weight. Tarver has decent power, but doesn't have the volume or power to hurt Tyson. Might be able to outpoint him in theory.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 11:42
by Eric the Viking
bennie wrote:Part of the problem is Louisville is a bitch to get to. No direct flights.
If you can get a decent flight to Cincinnati, Louisville is only a 2-hour drive away, across the Ohio river and toward the southwest:
http://maps.yahoo.com/dd_result?ed=xTow ... country=us
Re: Danny on his own...
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 11:49
by Eric the Viking
MightyWarrior wrote:The Devil In Roy Jones wrote:
I just don't trust Mayorga. He looked a bit portly at a press conference yesterday:
Yeah he's looking a real porker there isn't he - too many cervezas.
He looks positively starved compared to Tito, whose belly is giving the Donster's a run for its money.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 12:02
by knockout artist
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Well, seeing as Tyson hasn't done fornicate all for the last 4 years except fight bums and get beaten up, I think the division can survive. It's going to be a long time before we get another proper champion, but one always comes along. People forget that there are most often long gaps between great heavyweight champions.
Look at the gap between Dempsey and the next great heavyweight champ. Or between Larry Holmes and Tyson, those wilderness years when Berbick et al held belts. It's the same now, and we just have to grin and bear it.
The gap between holmes and Tyson was one year and 2 months.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 16:06
by MightyWarrior
Speaking of Danny's habit of dropping his left hand to waist level after throwing a jab, Freddie Roach was asked about it by Mike Katz:
"Oh yes, we've noticed it. We've been working on it. Mike's favorite punch is the overhand right. And Williams only moves to the left, into the right hand"
Here's hoping Jimmy Mac has noticed it too.
Posted: 29 Jul 2004, 16:36
by TheRiverCityHippy
yeah tyson is a shot fighter, but not to the extent where he couldnt beat danny.
i think tyson could still win the title. vitali didnt exactly draw up the blueprints showing how to handle a decent puncher in sanders.
as for the rest of them i think they`d be more worried facing tyson than he would be facing them.