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Steve Kim ‏@steveucnlive 1h1 hour ago
Hopkins when asked about Ward-Kovalev says he would consider a Ward victory an 'upset' based on recent activity, injuries, etc #boxing

boxing_rocks wrote:

SFW wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Why would anyone root for a boring boxer like Andre Ward who feels he needs to resort to illegal tactics to win?

Kovalev is much better for the sport.

He has never needed or acted like he needed them to win, that's the dumbest damn thing said yet. 20 years of fighting at the top level you want to create the idea all those hundreds of wins came from illegal tactics, that's pathetic. You have got to face the fact Kessler got bent over and serviced every minute of their fight, it happened. He was outfought every step of the way... I like how bika gets shown as an example against Ward when bika is 10x more dirty in every fight he's in, lil hypocritical don't you think?

SFW wrote:Lara is as exciting as taking a nap, never the best even at his own weight, yet doesn't get half the poo Ward does despite being even more dirty. Thumbing, low blows, stalling and flat out running at times, butting, spoiling fights as hard as possible. All done by Lara. Yet the fluffers are only obsessed with Ward, funny but sad. Basically all this hypocrisy is an admission that Andre is a threat, it bothers them because it's true, and the Kovalev bandwagon confidence is waning.

And the New.

lefty wrote:I've never understood the clamouring for Golovkin-Lara- every time I envisage that matchup I can't help but think of Lara-Angulo.

crusader wrote:

lefty wrote:I've never understood the clamouring for Golovkin-Lara- every time I envisage that matchup I can't help but think of Lara-Angulo.

Lara would be scared to let his hands go and would just run around before getting stopped. I've never got the fascination some people have for that either; I think part of it is that some people can cry about GGG ducking, nowing full well that Lara is with Haymon and that the fight would be hard to make.

Freedom2013 wrote:https://twitter.com/Main_Events/status/ ... 4837622788

In the video, Andre Ward says "I was sandwiched in between a heroin addict and a crack head, I shouldn't be here"

But heroin addict or not, at least Ward's father had money and took him to the boxing gym very often, while Kovalev grew up poor in a rough neighborhood and had less opportunity.

lefty wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:https://twitter.com/Main_Events/status/ ... 4837622788

In the video, Andre Ward says "I was sandwiched in between a heroin addict and a crack head, I shouldn't be here"

But heroin addict or not, at least Ward's father had money and took him to the boxing gym very often, while Kovalev grew up poor in a rough neighborhood and had less opportunity.

I Watched that- Both stories Were Touching. The town Kovalev is from is an absolute poo hole from the look of it but I think it's unfair to say atleast Ward's father had money. Based on the show- they lost the home they lived in and Ward and his brother ended up living with Virgil Hunter for a large portion of his teens. Neither guy had it easy.

crusader wrote:I just hope that people don't go crying fraud at the loser. That's the type of shitt that makes guys weary of taking risks...

Enlightened-One wrote:I've just watch an hour old video from the ESNEWS YouTube channel that (apparently) seems to show Andre Wards' new muscular and stocky physique that he has worked on specifically for the Kovalev fight... and I must admit, he is looking pretty huge, but recent experience (i.e. Khan and Brook) has educated us on the fact that short-term artificial weight-gain rarely improves punching power and punch resisted when faced against a naturally bigger man.

Freedom2013 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I've just watch an hour old video from the ESNEWS YouTube channel that (apparently) seems to show Andre Wards' new muscular and stocky physique that he has worked on specifically for the Kovalev fight... and I must admit, he is looking pretty huge, but recent experience (i.e. Khan and Brook) has educated us on the fact that short-term artificial weight-gain rarely improves punching power and punch resisted when faced against a naturally bigger man.

Kovalev and Ward are the same size, if either is slightly naturally bigger (thicker) it is Ward, he likely has to cut a bit more weight to make 175.

Kovalev fought mostly at middleweight (164) in the amateurs, while Ward was a light heavyweight (178).

Ward moved up because he can't make 168, he says he has trouble making 175 now.

lefty wrote:Sorry but I don't buy that. Ward weighed 171 1/2 when he fought Paul Smith. I doubt he's truly struggling to make 175.

littlepug wrote:ward decision, kovalov way overated

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

littlepug wrote:ward decision, kovalov way overated

I'm in the weird position of thinking Kovalev was p4p #1 before anyone,
but also thinking he is overrated.

I think he is currently the top guy in boxing, resume + results,
but he isn't unbeatable as many of his fans would have you believe.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

littlepug wrote:ward decision, kovalov way overated

I'm in the weird position of thinking Kovalev was p4p #1 before anyone,
but also thinking he is overrated.

I think he is currently the top guy in boxing, resume + results,
but he isn't unbeatable as many of his fans would have you believe.

victor-romeo wrote: Only way Ward wins this is with cuts from headbutts