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Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 12 Oct 2016, 19:25
by Petu v.d. Pajm
These additions were found by going through the conquerors of Flash Elorde, Bob Foster & Kid Gavilan :
Solomon Boysaw of Cleveland, Ohio - wins over Eddie Perkins & Flash Elorde.
Eugenio Espinoza of Ecuador - wins over Ismael Laguna & Flash Elorde
Doug Jones - wins over Carl "Bobo" Olson & Bob Foster
Robert Villemain - wins over Kid Gavilan & Jake LaMotta
Bobby Dykes - wins over Joey Giardello & Kid Gavilan
Ramon Fuentes aka Chuck Moody - wins over Billy Graham & Kid Gavilan
Ralph "Tiger" Jones - wins over Sugar Ray Robinson, Kid Gavilan & Joey Giardello
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 12 Oct 2016, 20:37
by Petu v.d. Pajm
These additions were found by going through the conquerors of Emile Griffith, Jake LaMotta & Harold Johnson :
Randy Sandy - wins over Emile Griffith & Dick Tiger
Don Fullmer - wins over Emile Griffith & Carl "Bobo" Olson
Oakland Billy Smith - wins over Lloyd Marshall & Harold Johnson. Win over Cocoa Kid overturned to "No Contest" and Cocoa Kid suspended for 6 months due suspect effort (or lack of it)
Johnny Persol - wins over Carl "Bobo" Olson & Harold Johnson
Nate Bolden - wins over Tony Zale (twice) & Jake LaMotta
Jose Basora (mentioned before by Bundana, but not in 60-man list) - wins over Jake LaMotta, Holman Williams (3-3-1 altogether) & Fritzie Zivic
Irish Bob Murphy - wins over Lloyd Marshall & Jake LaMotta
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 12 Oct 2016, 20:47
by ClivePatrickLyons
Aussie Great Tony Mundine beat Emile Griffiths and Danny Moyer

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 02:58
by Petu v.d. Pajm
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Aussie Great Tony Mundine beat Emile Griffiths and Danny Moyer

Denny Moyer is not in Hall of fame though...

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 10:49
by Ambling Alp II
Wow you have added quite a few.

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 18:30
by ClivePatrickLyons
Petu v.d. Pajm wrote:ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Aussie Great Tony Mundine beat Emile Griffiths and Danny Moyer

Denny Moyer is not in Hall of fame though...

I must be seeing thing's then because last time I looked he was in the WORLD BOXING HALL OF FAME

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 00:37
by Bundana
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Petu v.d. Pajm wrote:ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Aussie Great Tony Mundine beat Emile Griffiths and Danny Moyer

Denny Moyer is not in Hall of fame though...

I must be seeing thing's then because last time I looked he was in the WORLD BOXING HALL OF FAME

You're right... but we are (as always!) only counting IBHOF HOFers.
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 01:14
by ClivePatrickLyons
Bundana wrote:ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Petu v.d. Pajm wrote:
Denny Moyer is not in Hall of fame though...

I must be seeing thing's then because last time I looked he was in the WORLD BOXING HALL OF FAME

You're right... but we are (as always!) only counting IBHOF HOFers.
That's bloody terrible

Geeze only the IBHOF......................... Are they better then World Boxing Hall Of Fame

THEY MUST BE i'm sorry IBHOF

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 01:35
by ClivePatrickLyons
Ok two more and its the IBHOF boy's.......... American Heavyweight from the 30's/40's Elmer Ray beat Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott both by split dec

And Johny Persol in the 60's beat Harold Johnson and Bobo Olson

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 14 Oct 2016, 15:43
by Petu v.d. Pajm
Both correct, but both also mentioned before

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 14:38
by Seamus
I think Young Peter Jackson beat 4 and Willie Meehan beat 3.
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 01:18
by ClivePatrickLyons
Petu v.d. Pajm wrote:Both correct, but both also mentioned before

Sorry Sir

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 09 Nov 2016, 17:44
by littlepug
Uriah grant had wins over Tommy hearns and Mathew saad Muhammad
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 19:13
by elmersalsa
Del Flanagan beat a lot HOFs I believe. I'll check his record.
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 19:16
by elmersalsa
elmersalsa wrote:Del Flanagan beat a lot HOFs I believe. I'll check his record.
Somebody already mentioned him.
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 23 Nov 2016, 12:15
by Ambling Alp II
Thanks to several people finding some names, I believe that we are now up to 142!
One thing that I always wonder is if there are some guys out there that are vastly underrated. Someone whom time has seemed to have forgot.
By looking up these guys records, you can get an idea that that has often been the case.
Obviously sometimes a guy beat two Hall of Famers because the Hall of Famers were way past it or something like that. Still, I think it is worth looking these guys up.
Anyway, here is the updated list:
Davey Abad
George Araujo
Joey Archer
Freddie Archie
Milt Aron
Joe Azevedo
Kid Azteca
Soldier Barfield
Jose Basora
Percy Bassett
Jack Bernstein
Melio Bettina
Joe Black
Tommy Bland
Larry Boardman
Nate Bolden
Eddie Booker
Solomon Boysaw
Frankie Burns
Johnny Busso
Frankie Callahan
Rodolfo Casanova
Johnny Cesario
Eddie Chavez
Billy Celebron
George Chip
Anton Christoforidis
Freddie Cochrane
George Costner
Johnny Cunningham
Johnny Cuthbert
Pablo Dano
Chuck Davey
John L. Davis
Al “Bummy” Davis
Davey Day
Paddy Demarco
Eddie Dolan
Terry Downes
Lockport Jimmy Duffy
Bobby Dykes
Eugenio Espinoza
Lew Feldman
Lester Felton
Joey Ferrando
Del Flanagan
Ramon Fuentes
Sammy Fuller
Don Fullmer
Eddie Giosa
Abe Goldstien
Manuel Gonzalez
Uriah Grant
Johnny Greco
Harold Green
Rafael Gutierrez
Alex Hart
Greg Haugen
Stanley “Kitten” Hayward
Pete Head
Carlos “Morocho” Hernandez
Antonio Herrera
Cecil Hudson
Gustave Humery
Young Peter Jackson
Johnny Jadick
Battling Jim Johnson
Doug Jones
Ralph “Tiger” Jones
Willie Joyce
Mike Kaplan
Rafael Lastre
Pete Latzo
Eduardo Lausse
Pat Lawlor
Rex Layne
Cleto Locatelli
Leo Lomski
Bert Lytell
Elijah Makhathini
Carlos Malacara
Joe Mandot
Hilario Martinez
Harry “Kid” Matthews
Oliver McCall
Ed McGoorty
Johnny McLean
Pat McMurty
Bobby McQuillar
Mike McTigue
Willie Meehan
Small Montana
Philadelphia Pal Moore
Tod Morgan
Leonard Morrow
Denny Moyer
Irish Bob Murphy
Eddie O’Keefe
Tony Olivera
Tommy Paul
Tony Pellone
Paul Pender
Johnny Persol
Harold Petty
Jackie Pilkington
Andy Price
Jose Luis Ramirez
Frankie Randall
Elmer Ray
Johnnie Risko
Bobby Ruffin
Lauro Salas
Lou Salica
Randy Sandy
Armand Savoie
Johnny Saxton
Ernie Schaaf
Lou Scozza
Ruben Shank
Al Shubert
Johnny Shugrue
Oakland Billy Smith
Calvin Smith
Tommy Speigal
Sid Terris
John Thomas
Buster Tyler
Kid Tunero
Earl Turner
Gil Turner
Alfred Urbina
Robert Villemain
Eddie Wagner
Spider Webb
Joe Welling
Sonny Boy West
Charley White
Don Williams
California Jackie Wilson
Eddie Wolfe
Chuck Woods
Juan Zurita
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 12 Nov 2019, 00:33
by AntonioMartin
Counter-puncher wrote: ↑04 Oct 2016, 17:00
With more generous scoring Rocky Lockridge could have had a handful
Jimmy Young could've been on this list too that way!
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 11:04
by AntonioMartin
Pat Lawlor had wins over Wilfred Benitez and Roberto Duran...
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 12:41
by Petu v.d. Pajm
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 11:04
Pat Lawlor had wins over Wilfred Benitez and Roberto Duran...
He is on that list already and mentioned several times before.

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 19:03
by AntonioMartin
Petu v.d. Pajm wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 12:41
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 11:04
Pat Lawlor had wins over Wilfred Benitez and Roberto Duran...
He is on that list already and mentioned several times before.
Dang I must have missed him!

Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 19:11
by Petu v.d. Pajm
Three names still missing from Alp's list are :
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr.
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Yes, they will all eventually be 1st-ballot Hall-of-Famers in their due time. However, at this point they are not in and they have beaten at least two HoFers each.
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 21 Nov 2019, 01:46
by AntonioMartin
Petu v.d. Pajm wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 19:11
Three names still missing from Alp's list are :
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr.
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Yes, they will all eventually be 1st-ballot Hall-of-Famers in their due time. However, at this point they are not in and they have beaten at least two HoFers each.
And Evander Holyfield, over Tyson, Holmes, Bowe and Foreman!
Re: Non-HOFers who beat 2 HOFers
Posted: 21 Nov 2019, 02:16
by Petu v.d. Pajm
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑21 Nov 2019, 01:46
Petu v.d. Pajm wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 19:11
Three names still missing from Alp's list are :
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr.
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Yes, they will all eventually be 1st-ballot Hall-of-Famers in their due time. However, at this point they are not in and they have beaten at least two HoFers each.
And Evander Holyfield, over Tyson, Holmes, Bowe and Foreman!
Holyfield got into IBHOF in the latest entry
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