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Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016, 12:27
by BigGar
Mrs Thompson's wheelchair ?

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016, 12:28
by handsofstone
BigGar wrote:Mrs Thompson's wheelchair ?
:yay:

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016, 12:29
by lefty
Stuarty30 wrote:
lefty wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Just came on to post much the same thing. Unless Pulev is injured I honestly don't know why they haven't went for him? He's available as far as I know and will be mandatory soon anyway if Parker goes the WBO route. It's a no brainier for me. Far far better option than most!
Did you mean to say Pulev there mate? Isn't the OP talking about Price?
Yeah I was saying they should go for Pulev but I was going to post it'll either be Molina or Price but other dude beat me to it :TU:
No worries mate, I was just confused lol.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016, 12:30
by lefty
handsofstone wrote:Maybe Fast Car might start revealing opponents on the night,revolutionising the sport Joshua's opponent might come to the ring whilst the fans scream in anticipation like WWF

Can you imagine AJ stood in the ring waiting ,then all you hear is a loan saxophone playing Bruce Springsteen-Born in the USA as a mean looking Tony Thompson is pushed into the ring on a wheelchair as a stannah stairlift elevates him up into the ring
:lol: :lol: :TU:

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 28 Oct 2016, 12:43
by Stuarty
handsofstone wrote:Maybe Fast Car might start revealing opponents on the night,revolutionising the sport Joshua's opponent might come to the ring whilst the fans scream in anticipation like WWF

Can you imagine AJ stood in the ring waiting ,then all you hear is a loan saxophone playing Bruce Springsteen-Born in the USA as a mean looking Tony Thompson is pushed into the ring on a wheelchair as a stannah stairlift elevates him up into the ring
That is an idea :lol: Tweet him now!

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 06:09
by Fearful_Freddie
Molina listed on Boxrec. Underwhelming.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 07:21
by Anzi
clopixolacuphase wrote:
Anzi wrote:
MrJasonM wrote:Anybody seen anything of Izuagbe Ugonoh?

He has a good record against very limited opposition.

As for Joshua it's Price or Molina, I think it will be Price. Neither guys are PPV, but there you go?

I would like the Price fight more if he had a good win under his belt but it's hard to see it being anything other than a Joshua very early KO. Although I will be championing for the opposite.
Yes, I did something on him before, quick, agile, athletic, throws a lot of shots, great combinations, would be a threat to Joshua.
He looks like a good fighter that guy and in this current heavyweight era I expect that without a good promoter behind him he'll be avoided like the plague.
Very true.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 07:32
by funso banjo baby
Molina certainly isn't an exceptional fighter.

the status of world class gets lower and lower with each passing decade, so unfortunately he will creep into world class by default (with some shrewd managing and matchmaking.)

His ko loss to Arreola inside a round is the obvious marker for Molina's ability.....but having said that, he has definitely improved somewhat.

I class him very much in the same bracket as Christian Hammer in Europe. both guys have so so records and attained very early dubious world rankings.....and receive a heck of a lot of stick....but they are pretty much ok fighters.

no one expected Molina to scare Wilder. And absolutely no one expected Hammer to beat Teper.

I just think these guys are ok for fringe world rankings...just about

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 09:46
by fightfaninfrance
lefty wrote:
fightfaninfrance wrote:I heard it was Price or Molina. Eddie wanted Price but the Americans won't buy it for good money so it's going to be Molina as it will sell in the US.

I'd rather see Price and so would most of the 'industry' and everyone's saying the same thing. Price will likely get iced whenever AJ steps it up but there's just that beautific chance Price lands on him and sends him to the canvas in a slumber.
I think you're making this up as you go along. Who's most of the 'industry'?
Yeah, I'm making it up as I go along? I'm not some internet attention seeker.

I never Come on here making statements. I've got mates who work in boxing on the media side. Out of respect to them I never come on here repeating what's said, but all this heavyweight nonsense in the past few weeks has been absurd, I just want the fights made and then carried out instead of endless talking about who is on Eddies list or Hayes bloody pansying around promising big fights and not delivering.

I just thought it would help to shed some light on what's taking a while and what people 'in the know' are saying. I'm not looking for attention. Take it at face value this time I assure you, I won't be doing it again. I don't really care who AJ fights in the end it certainly won't be anyone who poses significant risk.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 11:31
by Crease
When I heard about AJ's defense against Molina, I was utterly disgusted. This will be an easy pay day for Josh and he won't learn anything blowing away this bum.

But upon looking at the IBF's list, it do seem that there wasn't much more that Hearn could do for him.

IBF list.

1 Joseph Parker Fighting for the WBO title.
2 Kubrat Pulev - Refused 3 offers to fight AJ.
3 David Haye - Hearn wants that to be a stadium fight for next summer.
4 Johan Duhaupas - Really? Why is this guy even being mentioned
5 Andy Ruiz - Fighting for the WBO title.
6 Carlos Takam - KO'd recently by a non-champ.
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov - isn't he still injured?
8 Eric Molina

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 12:34
by boxingknockout
Crease wrote:When I heard about AJ's defense against Molina, I was utterly disgusted. This will be an easy pay day for Josh and he won't learn anything blowing away this bum.

But upon looking at the IBF's list, it do seem that there wasn't much more that Hearn could do for him.

IBF list.

1 Joseph Parker Fighting for the WBO title.
2 Kubrat Pulev - Refused 3 offers to fight AJ.
3 David Haye - Hearn wants that to be a stadium fight for next summer.
4 Johan Duhaupas - Really? Why is this guy even being mentioned
5 Andy Ruiz - Fighting for the WBO title.
6 Carlos Takam - KO'd recently by a non-champ.
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov - isn't he still injured?
8 Eric Molina
There could be a reason the IBF has such rubbish in their ratings....to protect Joshua. Does anyone know if the sanction fee is based on percentage or a straight fee? Joshua makes a lot of money

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 12:37
by asdfjkl
keithmoonhangover wrote:This is the current IBF list.

1 Joseph Parker New Zealand
2 Kubrat Pulev Bulgaria
3 David Haye United Kingdom
4 Johan Duhaupas France
5 Andy Ruiz Mexico
6 Carlos Takam France
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov Ukraine
8 Eric Molina United States
9 Jarrell Miller United States
10 Derek Chisora Zimbabwe
11 Charles Martin United States
12 David Price England
13 Izuagbe Ugonoh Poland
14 Hugie Fury England
15 Erkan Teper Germany

I'd like 1, but he didn't want it yet I understood, 2 same story, 3 doesn't deserve it, 4 would be nice, 5 would be nice, 6 would be a lot better as his current opponend, 7 would be bad, but still better, 8 would be way too easy, 9 would be bad, but still better, 10 doesn't deserve it, 11 just had, 12 doesn't deserve it, 13 would be very very nice, but I don't think he wants it (yet), 14 would be quite nice, but not sure if possible, 15 doesn't deserve it.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 13:12
by knockout
Surprised Pulev turned it down ! He has fought a number of dangerous/avoided guys and wasn't at all intimidated by Wlad. Was it just a cheap offer by Hearn ?

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 13:23
by the_doctor
I don't get why guys like Duhaupas, Takam and Miller are such better options than Molina.

They're all at that level below "elite" but above gatekeeper/European level and would provide much the same level of opposition - may be durable enough to last beyond a few rounds, might cause a few problems if they land clean but ultimately expect to be knocked out.

Take out Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Povetkin, Ortiz arguably guys like Parker and Pulev and any one else is either totally unproven, past it, unavailable or just not very good.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 16:20
by Crease
boxingknockout wrote:There could be a reason the IBF has such rubbish in their ratings....to protect Joshua. Does anyone know if the sanction fee is based on percentage or a straight fee? Joshua makes a lot of money
Sanctoning fees for World titles are hundreds of thousands of pounds. Usually they don't pay as much when it's a Mando but for voluntary defenses they have to fork it out for it getting sanctioned.

As i understand it, it's a straight up fee when the fight is signed.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 08:53
by Rob3_142
boxingknockout wrote:There could be a reason the IBF has such rubbish in their ratings....to protect Joshua. Does anyone know if the sanction fee is based on percentage or a straight fee? Joshua makes a lot of money
I can assure you, the rankings were pretty terrible before Joshua was champion.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 08:57
by lefty
Crease wrote:When I heard about AJ's defense against Molina, I was utterly disgusted. This will be an easy pay day for Josh and he won't learn anything blowing away this bum.

But upon looking at the IBF's list, it do seem that there wasn't much more that Hearn could do for him.

IBF list.

1 Joseph Parker Fighting for the WBO title.
2 Kubrat Pulev - Refused 3 offers to fight AJ.
3 David Haye - Hearn wants that to be a stadium fight for next summer.
4 Johan Duhaupas - Really? Why is this guy even being mentioned
5 Andy Ruiz - Fighting for the WBO title.
6 Carlos Takam - KO'd recently by a non-champ.
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov - isn't he still injured?
8 Eric Molina
Duhaupaus is a decent fighter. I'm pretty sure he'd push Joshua more than both Molina and Price would/will. He's pretty big and durable if nothing else. He could test Joshua's cardio. He kept coming forward against Wilder despite getting hit with the kitchen sink.

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 09:04
by Oiky
Hearn and Joshua Fraud team

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 09:46
by keithmoonhangover
Oiky wrote:Hearn and Joshua Fraud team
:roll:

Re: Joshua's Opponent - Is there No One Else?

Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 04:29
by Rob3_142
lefty wrote:
Crease wrote:When I heard about AJ's defense against Molina, I was utterly disgusted. This will be an easy pay day for Josh and he won't learn anything blowing away this bum.

But upon looking at the IBF's list, it do seem that there wasn't much more that Hearn could do for him.

IBF list.

1 Joseph Parker Fighting for the WBO title.
2 Kubrat Pulev - Refused 3 offers to fight AJ.
3 David Haye - Hearn wants that to be a stadium fight for next summer.
4 Johan Duhaupas - Really? Why is this guy even being mentioned
5 Andy Ruiz - Fighting for the WBO title.
6 Carlos Takam - KO'd recently by a non-champ.
7 Vyacheslav Glazkov - isn't he still injured?
8 Eric Molina
Duhaupaus is a decent fighter. I'm pretty sure he'd push Joshua more than both Molina and Price would/will. He's pretty big and durable if nothing else. He could test Joshua's cardio. He kept coming forward against Wilder despite getting hit with the kitchen sink.
Once again, Duhaupas has been scheduled to fight Takam in a WBC mandatory. Already been and gone to purse bid.