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I’m in the ‘Buncey is a good egg’ camp!

Always been more than helpful and accommodating to myself.

boxingknockout wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

Chippo wrote:

Thought everyone knew about this incident?

Not me

I bet you're going to tell us you also don't know about the Tyson - Green incident or the 'supposed' Atlas-Tyson situation as well! ?

Did you start following boxing because of Amir Khan or Anthony Joshua?

Why are you laughing at him? Because you potentially knew something he didn't?

What does it matter if he started following boxing due to Anthony Joshua or amir khan? I don't understand what's funny about someone not acting like they know everything and remarking on an infamous incident saying he didn't know about it?

No wonder new people refrain from posting when they are ridiculed for not being as informed a's an 'expert' .

Go ahead and laugh at me for mcguigan naz and eubank getting me into boxing.

Anyway educate us on who got you into boxing . So next time I'm asked instead of being honest I can give the cool answer and no-one will laugh at me.

littlekinny wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:
Not me

I bet you're going to tell us you also don't know about the Tyson - Green incident or the 'supposed' Atlas-Tyson situation as well! ?

Did you start following boxing because of Amir Khan or Anthony Joshua?

Why are you laughing at him? Because you potentially knew something he didn't?

What does it matter if he started following boxing due to Anthony Joshua or amir khan? I don't understand what's funny about someone not acting like they know everything and remarking on an infamous incident saying he didn't know about it?

No wonder new people refrain from posting when they are ridiculed for not being as informed a's an 'expert' .

Go ahead and laugh at me for mcguigan naz and eubank getting me into boxing.

Anyway educate us on who got you into boxing . So next time I'm asked instead of being honest I can give the cool answer and no-one will laugh at me.

I got in to boxing because of Eubank, Benn, Naz even an early Joe Calzaghe. Most kids in the gym around that particular time were there because of Naz to be fair. I knew about the Tyson Green and Tyson Atlas tales only because I've read Tysons book.

I thought I was well clued up when I came on here but there's guys on here with a frightening amount of knowledge that put me to shame. I enjoy learning and picking things up from some folk on here I'd otherwise probably never have known.

Instead of berating someone for not knowing about Larry's WWE moment, here is a link to a clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlQqSCzRrA. Holmes would out-jab you, do you on the cards, buy your home and kick you out, then buy the local laundry shop and refuse to let you wash your smalls, and if all that failed he'd drop kick you from a car. That is why he is the best heavyweight we've ever seen.

dalcumly wrote:There seems to be an increasing number of morons on boxrec. This used to be a forum where serious boxing matters were discussed in a civilised manner.
To come on here and slate the author of a boxing book in such a manner suggests there's a 'background' somewhere.
Some of these threads have become pathetic. I don't even fully understand what a 'troll' is but I strongly suspect there are half a dozen 'wasters' have started to bring down this website. I reckon there's dozens of real boxing people have begun to switch off.
I guarantee I'll be attacked now. They can say what the want, I'm off elsewhere.

So you coming over and acting the judge, jury, policeman, and executioner and mocking others for starting a thread about a legitimate talking point and controversial figure is "civilised" behaviour.....just because Bunce wrote a book and you wrote a book doesn't mean there is some unwritten rule that all authors are good guys with altruistic motivations.....I bought your Sibson book a few years ago...and it is clear it was a labour of love...what it lacked in writing skills it made up for with passion and commitment...and it was a good worthwhile read.....I cant claim to have written a book....but I have written countless published professional papers in my career for a Royal Chartered institute over the last 17 years........a report or book is only as good as its author and your "one size fits all approach" is not very helpful.....If you want to leave that's entirely up to you but you will find the same people on other forums under different user names...when was this utopia of serious posters? I have been on boxing forums for 18 years going back to the doghouseboxing and boxing insider days....when I post here I accept there is a more ...how shall we put it twitter style of posting.....wheras the other place I mainly post boxing 24 has a far more in depth analysis....but disagreements and even barbs being traded take place everywhere......perhaps try and be a little more broadminded and respect others views because what you have done by posting what you did and the manner in which you did it.....is exactly what you are complaining about..you may be used to getting your own way having been a career policeman but this board is a democracy...... You act as if it is news to you that Bunce is a controversial figure....and have taken this authors united thing far too personally....we wouldn't trash your book or anyone elses book....or their motives for it...especially when they have just finished it and are publishing it.....with Bunce and the cynical methods he has employed so far to promote it as I have already outlined (using a errol Christie obituary to plug it 3 times- the boxing news article- ).....and the fact that he arrogantly thinks he is uniquely qualified to write and comment on the sport....that is the reason for this thread. He is imo a thoroughly nasty piece of work. I have liked his onscreen persona at times over the years but it has become more and more of a caricature especially the last 18 months.....and has resulted in more and more boorish behaviour...

Other authors like the sorely missed Glyn Leach, Graham Houston and others have all managed to post on forums without insulting everyone the way Bunce does. You may want to lament why it is he gets 3000 in his view "abusive" messages a night on twitter after a big fight.

Are you aware of his sexist and demeaning comments over the years to female journalists? One of whom he told to "get back in the kitchen love"

Also just off the top of my head the cruel comments about Dennis Lebedevs cleft....the disrespect to joe frazier "eeees brown bread"...the Martin Murray fight....when he slowed down the camera down to show a rather attractive blond in her late 40s grimacing at a punch landed during the cruiser bout.......and screamed in his glass shattering exas[erated as default voice..... "look at that wrinkled neck....I'm going to teleport a message to her...it's only going to get worse love".....creepy and nasty.

His treatment of 5 African prostitutes with biro pens rings true to me

He rarely offers any useful insight into tactics or a fighters capabilities. Most of what I've read from him is just like an old has been sitting in a pub telling tales of yesteryear without ever arriving at a pertinent point.

His over excitable approach and way he domineers interviews and conversations is just irritating.

Not my cup of tea at all.

I never knew boxing fans were so sensitive

I really like Bunce.

Got Barry Jones to sign a top for me once.

Also to ad-Lib for 3-4 hours every Saturday in-between fights when you can't show the feed, must be tough.

I understand he's a bit 'marmite' for some, but I will 100% be buying his book. There's not many quality boxing books about.

It's not just the biased and outrageous opinions. It's the language. Over the last few weeks I've read posts about drug taking, slagging off ex-wives, perverted sex, and persistent swearing.

I can swear like the rest of them, we all can, the difference is we choose not to. I don't really want to read about ' going down the pub on Saturday night for some 'Charlie' and my 'fat ex ' leaving the kids with me and I certainly don't want to read what Bunce or anyone else did with prostitutes. That's my point.

You know Bunce isn't going to get rich with this book. It is a book for general boxing fans, and there's not many about. What we have now is 'fans of boxers' so a book on Joshua or McGuigan or Froch will outsell Bunce's type of book, because they will be bought by fans AND the general boxing public. He'll be very lucky to sell 1,000 copies and most have already been discounted. I'll buy it though,and I'm sure I'll form an opinion when I've finished.

boxingknockout wrote: Did you start following boxing because of Amir Khan or Anthony Joshua?

I'm a big fan of Eddie Hearn, boxing doesn't interest me really

littlekinny wrote:
Why are you laughing at him? Because you potentially knew something he didn't?

What does it matter if he started following boxing due to Anthony Joshua or amir khan? I don't understand what's funny about someone not acting like they know everything and remarking on an infamous incident saying he didn't know about it?

No wonder new people refrain from posting when they are ridiculed for not being as informed a's an 'expert' .

Go ahead and laugh at me for mcguigan naz and eubank getting me into boxing.

Anyway educate us on who got you into boxing . So next time I'm asked instead of being honest I can give the cool answer and no-one will laugh at me.

Well said

Maybe, but at the same time I think it's fair to question why Bunce should be uniquely credited for writing about incident that was already caught on video and widely circulated.

'Larry Holm kick me, and punch me!'

dalcumly wrote:It's not just the biased and outrageous opinions. It's the language. Over the last few weeks I've read posts about drug taking, slagging off ex-wives, perverted sex, and persistent swearing.

I can swear like the rest of them, we all can, the difference is we choose not to. I don't really want to read about ' going down the pub on Saturday night for some 'Charlie' and my 'fat ex ' leaving the kids with me and I certainly don't want to read what Bunce or anyone else did with prostitutes. That's my point.

You know Bunce isn't going to get rich with this book. It is a book for general boxing fans, and there's not many about. What we have now is 'fans of boxers' so a book on Joshua or McGuigan or Froch will outsell Bunce's type of book, because they will be bought by fans AND the general boxing public. He'll be very lucky to sell 1,000 copies and most have already been discounted. I'll buy it though,and I'm sure I'll form an opinion when I've finished.

if its swearing and foul language you object to, you cant have enjoyed attending too many boxing shows the last 30-40 years. I first attended small bills courtesy of my dad in the early 1980s..... everything from the York hall,the Royal Albert Hall, Wembley and even Bowlers nightclub Windsor back in 1987 when Barry Michael lost his world title.....there has usually been lots of profanity and drunkenness .the Albert Hall notwithstanding.....british boxing has hardly ever been some German like bastion of dinner jackets and fans sitting quietly to applaud a jab over dinner........its always been raucous going back to our Enery....I attended Bruno_Witherspoon as a youngster forced to attend in the wee hours by my dad and I vividly recall a fan shouting out repeatedly "kill the black bbastard Frank"....and the same fan being in drunken despair when Frank got knocked out............in a sense Bunce is the beacon of all that you dislike in your post above.....he was once someone who spoke and wrote about boxing quietly and seriously.....I mean look at him on Boxing First or Audley era BBC.......it was only after he got the setanta gigs that the loudmouth,screaming hysterical and abusive fat man in an exploding suit with all the banalities u evidently dislike...was born ..........its irrelevant how many copies of the book he sells....that's not the point.....the point which you are missing as you are blinded by a sense of authors must stick together .....is that Bunce, rather than go down the traditional manner of selling a book, has chosen to be loud and vulgar and market his book as the authoritative british boxing bible mainly as its written by him.....and as one BIG F YOU to all the forum posters and online fans who quote "attend boxing matches in their thousands and write up fight reports for websites" but "don't know what theyre talking about"and Im the big daddy Bunce the bert sugar of the british boxing scene and this book is proof of that...that's how the book is being marketed and that's evidently his motivation for writing it , its not a financial thing its a labour of ego.....his whole raison d'etre behind writing the book appears to be that he is uniquely qualified to comment on the british fight scene since the 1970s.......and that forum posters/online writers don't know anything

Metal Fingers wrote:Instead of berating someone for not knowing about Larry's WWE moment, here is a link to a clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlQqSCzRrA. Holmes would out-jab you, do you on the cards, buy your home and kick you out, then buy the local laundry shop and refuse to let you wash your smalls, and if all that failed he'd drop kick you from a car. That is why he is the best heavyweight we've ever seen.

I'm a bit of a forum lurker.
I must admit I tend to not post due to many others on here relishing on their superior knowledge. It's a shame. I've genuinely loved boxing for around 7 years now, I'm 29. I feel I'll be ridiculed for my lack of length and breadth of knowledge, which is sad, because in part I'm here to learn.
I will say that this forum is more accommodating that others I've seen, but still, the cynicism will kill future fans getting involved, in my opinion.
I'd loved to be more involved, but I feel there needs to be more of an acceptance to people who may not as be as well learned or seasoned. It doesn't surprise me that other combat sports are on the up while boxing seemingly is set to remain on the fringes, from what I've read over the years in these online platforms.

As my interest in the sport has grown I have found Bunce a valuable reference point if I'm honest. I've read and understand the previous grievances but surely the length of discussion on this thread of his importance/relevance suggests he is important within the fight game.

Yes he is important he is the face of the only dedicated boxing channel in the UK probably the world.
He writes for a national newspaper as their boxing correspondent.

So you would think he would be a little more accepting of forums.

We run celebs off this forum, no messing.

mickey1975 wrote:We run celebs off this forum, no messing.

Boomer was clearly amazed anyone would dare to step to

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

boxingknockout wrote: Did you start following boxing because of Amir Khan or Anthony Joshua?

I'm a big fan of Eddie Hearn, boxing doesn't interest me really

Fair enough.... Hearn invented British boxing

Counter-puncher wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:We run celebs off this forum, no messing.

Boomer was clearly amazed anyone would dare to step to

He got a shock. As did Smigga, who was mentally ruined.

Embarrassing thread. Poster doesn't like Bunce and thinks we should boycott his book. Sad.

mickey1975 wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:We run celebs off this forum, no messing.

Boomer was clearly amazed anyone would dare to step to

He got a shock. As did Smigga, who was mentally ruined.

When I go off I really go, I scare myself sometimes

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Embarrassing thread. Poster doesn't like Bunce and thinks we should boycott his book. Sad.

Nailed it.

He comes across as childish, jealous and embittered with his faux outrage at Bunce for the shocking crime of ....... being rude to people on forums.

Then with absolutely no self awareness and without a hint of irony proceeds to ....... be rude to people on forums

Comedy gold

Didn't see anything wrong with the article

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 85306.html

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Embarrassing thread. Poster doesn't like Bunce and thinks we should boycott his book. Sad.

Nailed it.

He comes across as childish, jealous and embittered with his faux outrage at Bunce for the shocking crime of ....... being rude to people on forums.

Then with absolutely no self awareness and without a hint of irony proceeds to ....... be rude to people on forums

Comedy gold

Ever heard of irony you pair of titts? Evidently not....the thread title is a play on the bring back bunce campaign......if you want embarrassing that was it. I realise you have a hard on for bunce spacerod but pleasectry to contain your feelings

I just got round to reading the Bunce interview in Boxing News , thought it was a decent read.

Had already read Bunces book as soon as it was published , found it to be a highly entertaining read .

Was already familiar with most of the fighters and fights that the book covered , but was really impressed with the fine detail that the Bunce added.

I would highly recommend the book to any boxing fan , young or old , that has an interest in British boxing history.