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This is nothing more then a farce.

bud smitchel wrote:This is nothing more then a farce.

And million, million, million........dollars at that.

AntonS wrote:

bud smitchel wrote:This is nothing more then a farce.

And million, million, million........dollars at that.

... from hundreds thousands of idiots who will pay to watch it.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sp ... li=BBnb7Kz

Lol, article on MSN......."good fight"!!! Yes, because all good fights involve someone with a 0-0 boxing record.

What is the more impressive feat........a guy with a 0-0 record making $25M or a guy making $100M to fight an opponent with a 0-0 record?

Errr, wait, just read it is estimated Floyd will make 100M and Conor 75M. If that's the case, Conor clearly did the better negotiating.

cletomex wrote:What is the more impressive feat........a guy with a 0-0 record making $25M or a guy making $100M to fight an opponent with a 0-0 record?

Errr, wait, just read it is estimated Floyd will make 100M and Conor 75M. If that's the case, Conor clearly did the better negotiating.

Conor might be the bigger draw right now.

The prospect of seeing McGregor get totally humiliated is actually making me begin to like Floyd ...

He should punish McGregor ... give him the kind of beating that a fighter never recovers from ...

... as a lesson to all MMA scum that they are lesser men ... lacking the heart, character or courage to stand in the ring ...

.. and that they should crawl back to that cage where they belong ...

... like any criminal or animal ...

So how much is this going to overshadow GGG Canelo? Should GGG Canelo have happened last year when the fans wanted it? If Canelo had lost, would he have been able to still make the Mexican blockbuster with Chavez, say as a rep building exercise as oppose to what is now deemed a cherry pick? Of course this is on the premise that Canelo lost. Should he have won in 2016 I don't foresee negative repercussions.

The fights are seperated by three weeks. Will extra advertising for GGG Canelo during May Con counter what may cast another dull light on the sport of boxing. As, in my opinion, unless Floyd puts on a passionate performance and has anti ageing powers, this will be a slow night. But maybe I'm giving to much credit to Conor who may be KO'd and not just look like like a puppy chasing its tail.

So De la Hoya delaying this fight until 2017, some opinionated fellows said this was the smart move, yet this once hot product, which lived and would have made a mark in the barren landscape that was 2016 has serious competition. A wildcard, a circus, another possible blight on boxing should it bore as was witnessed early this year with the farce that was Chavez Canelo will do boxing no favours, will do Golovkin Canelo no favours.

Hindsight is a lovely thing and this is a simplistic opinion of what could have been and what may be.

No doubt ggg/canelo just lost hundreds of thousands of buys. This freakshow is going to be gigantic, everything will be great... except the fight.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No doubt ggg/canelo just lost hundreds of thousands of buys. This freakshow is going to be gigantic, everything will be great... except the fight.

I know you know mma. What are the chances of may weather getting a knockout? Say after 6 rounds? I've seen Conor fight a coupe of times. He has his chin way up in the air, which I think makes him able to kick better but that's a huge boxing no no.

cletomex wrote:What is the more impressive feat........a guy with a 0-0 record making $25M or a guy making $100M to fight an opponent with a 0-0 record?

Errr, wait, just read it is estimated Floyd will make 100M and Conor 75M. If that's the case, Conor clearly did the better negotiating.

Sadly, I think Floyd makes way, way more than that.

I mean.. I'm hearing/seeing estimates, though they're just estimates, that this fight will get awful close to Pacquiao/Mayweather in terms of finances. Do people think McGregor and UFC's take will be significantly more than Pacquiao's?

JCS wrote:

cletomex wrote:What is the more impressive feat........a guy with a 0-0 record making $25M or a guy making $100M to fight an opponent with a 0-0 record?

Errr, wait, just read it is estimated Floyd will make 100M and Conor 75M. If that's the case, Conor clearly did the better negotiating.

Sadly, I think Floyd makes way, way more than that.

I mean.. I'm hearing/seeing estimates, though they're just estimates, that this fight will get awful close to Pacquiao/Mayweather in terms of finances. Do people think McGregor and UFC's take will be significantly more than Pacquiao's?

The number I'm curious about. Is what is UFC getting out of this.
I bet ey are making at least 40% of McGregor's purse.
They own him like a slave

tiny_acres wrote:

JCS wrote:

cletomex wrote:What is the more impressive feat........a guy with a 0-0 record making $25M or a guy making $100M to fight an opponent with a 0-0 record?

Errr, wait, just read it is estimated Floyd will make 100M and Conor 75M. If that's the case, Conor clearly did the better negotiating.

Sadly, I think Floyd makes way, way more than that.

I mean.. I'm hearing/seeing estimates, though they're just estimates, that this fight will get awful close to Pacquiao/Mayweather in terms of finances. Do people think McGregor and UFC's take will be significantly more than Pacquiao's?

The number I'm curious about. Is what is UFC getting out of this.
I bet ey are making at least 40% of McGregor's purse.
They own him like a slave

I'd be shocked if it was that much.

lazboy wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No doubt ggg/canelo just lost hundreds of thousands of buys. This freakshow is going to be gigantic, everything will be great... except the fight.

I know you know mma. What are the chances of may weather getting a knockout? Say after 6 rounds? I've seen Conor fight a coupe of times. He has his chin way up in the air, which I think makes him able to kick better but that's a huge boxing no no.

I think Floyd can get a knockout whenever he wants it. Conor is tough, he won't go out from one punch but the footwork alone could leave him off balance enough for four knockdowns in a minute.

Is Dana White getting paid by Al Haymon? The UFC is not worth $4 billion. The investment WME made will never pay off. It will take them 20 years at current profit margins just to break even on the investment.

Does GBP still have a piece of the Mayweather pie? Is this an attempt to torpedo his business?

Mayweather doing the same thing again? Making a deal, use all the dope out there to gain strength, flush all of it out, sign the deal, now they may test him and he's dopefree lol.

Chippo wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

UFC isn't like boxing, the stances and footwork are different because you're defending against takedowns and kicks etc. There's footage if McGregor sparring, his footwork is amatuer level. It takes years to build the intricate skills you need to compete as a professional. This is like a hockey player taking on a top golfer on the basis he hits a small object with a stick.

Nah man, it's not that different. If we were talking about an MMA fighter like Daniel Cormier (grappler) or Anderson Silva (kicks) then i'd agree with you perhaps. But Conor is where he is because of his hands and punching power. In fact, they just showed on ESPN that they measured the power of both punches from tape and Conor throws with more power than Floyd per cubic inch. That means nothing, i know, but it is kind of interesting to me. Conor needs to play dumb in this one and break the rules and make it ugly. He can always say "hey, it was my first fight so how the heck was i supposed to know i wasn't supposed to do that".

Tennis and badminton are kinda similar too, does that mean a badminton player could train for a few months and give Federer a close game of tennis? No.

Again, the examples are way off the mark. WAY off the mark. Here's the best example that i could come up with. It's like the top Decathlete in the world competing in his best event professionally..say the 110 meter hurdles, against the best 110 meter hurdler 10 years ago. But that hurdler is 40 years old now and clearly not the best hurdler in the world any longer.

This is an absolute circus side show.

Lackeos wrote:I don't really understand why any boxing fan would want to see Mayweather fight such a bad boxer in a match with boxing rules. I'd be marginally interested in Mayweather fighting Lara, the Charlos, or Andrade. But Mayweather vs McGregor is like... the most lopsided sh*tfest imaginable. They should've at least agreed on some hybrid rules that allowed elbows or takedowns (that would immediately result in being stood up, like in sanshou). Seriously, any boxing fan who believes that Mayweather would humiliate Vanes Martirosyan can't possibly think McGregor would do any better. McGregor hasn't even boxed anyone. Why not just Mayweather vs Ja Rule or Macaulay Culkin?

It is kind of a joke, but lots of morons out there that will pay to see it. I think in part they are selling it as a boxing vs mma match. We all know both have mouths that won't quit, so that will add to the show. McGregor actually thinks he can win this. Who knows, he does have a puncher's chance, and probably will throw a knee or elbow and give up a point or two to get Floyd frustrated...and hurt. It would be hilarious if McGregor wins this legitimately.

JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:Is Dana White getting paid by Al Haymon? The UFC is not worth $4 billion. The investment WME made will never pay off. It will take them 20 years at current profit margins just to break even on the investment.

Does GBP still have a piece of the Mayweather pie? Is this an attempt to torpedo his business?

GBP was an employee of Floyd.

Al Haymon gets paid on fights.

The UFC profit margins have to be quite high and they will make the 4 billion back much sooner than you project. I think their last Fox deal was for 900 million(don't recall the exact figure), their next TV deal will be even bigger.

Badhusker wrote:

Lackeos wrote:I don't really understand why any boxing fan would want to see Mayweather fight such a bad boxer in a match with boxing rules. I'd be marginally interested in Mayweather fighting Lara, the Charlos, or Andrade. But Mayweather vs McGregor is like... the most lopsided sh*tfest imaginable. They should've at least agreed on some hybrid rules that allowed elbows or takedowns (that would immediately result in being stood up, like in sanshou). Seriously, any boxing fan who believes that Mayweather would humiliate Vanes Martirosyan can't possibly think McGregor would do any better. McGregor hasn't even boxed anyone. Why not just Mayweather vs Ja Rule or Macaulay Culkin?

It is kind of a joke, but lots of morons out there that will pay to see it. I think in part they are selling it as a boxing vs mma match. We all know both have mouths that won't quit, so that will add to the show. McGregor actually thinks he can win this. Who knows, he does have a puncher's chance, and probably will throw a knee or elbow and give up a point or two to get Floyd frustrated...and hurt. It would be hilarious if McGregor wins this legitimately.

It is being sold as two of the biggest personalities of each sport combating in a boxing setting. Plenty of people are going to watch it. Even intelligent, knowledgeable boxing fans will watch it. As much of a mismatch as this looks, it is a huge event, a historical event. 6 months ago, I was determined this would never happen. Now that it is, I'm sure I'll find myself watching it just because it is such a huge, outlandish, global event. It's going to kill on PPV. And that is precisely why it's been made. McGregor is a smart dude. He knows he has slim to no chance in winning this. But he knows that Floyd brings bigger money than anything the UFC can bring him atm. He is a money man. Anyone who has done a little bit of research on Conor knows that he is a money first guy. He and Mayweather are of the same mindset on this. They both understand that Mayweather is the A side here.

caldo2025 wrote:

Chippo wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
Nah man, it's not that different. If we were talking about an MMA fighter like Daniel Cormier (grappler) or Anderson Silva (kicks) then i'd agree with you perhaps. But Conor is where he is because of his hands and punching power. In fact, they just showed on ESPN that they measured the power of both punches from tape and Conor throws with more power than Floyd per cubic inch. That means nothing, i know, but it is kind of interesting to me. Conor needs to play dumb in this one and break the rules and make it ugly. He can always say "hey, it was my first fight so how the heck was i supposed to know i wasn't supposed to do that".

Tennis and badminton are kinda similar too, does that mean a badminton player could train for a few months and give Federer a close game of tennis? No.

Again, the examples are way off the mark. WAY off the mark. Here's the best example that i could come up with. It's like the top Decathlete in the world competing in his best event professionally..say the 110 meter hurdles, against the best 110 meter hurdler 10 years ago. But that hurdler is 40 years old now and clearly not the best hurdler in the world any longer.

No, tennis and badminton example is excellent in this case. Furthermore, I'm 100% sure that McGregor has as much of chances to beat Floyd in boxing as Magnus Carlsen.

Well that's not accurate because Mayweather was still considered the best at 38... And the 110 meter high hurdles requires more youth and athleticism than any other decathlete event accept for the high jump and long jump...

It would be more like a decathlete doing the 1500 meter run with dress shoes on -- because he's not accustomed to competing with Boxing gloves... He's used to those little MMA gloves you can grab people with much more readily and can't hide behind... Then he can't use back fists, hammer blows, palm strikes, elbows, or forearms... So he has to learn the game in 2 months... You can't do that. For one thing his balance is all wrong and his stance is totally fukked

Gentlemen, we should stop discussing this circus. It is not worth it. Cotto vs Kamegai is more intriguing than this garbage.