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Re: Crawford and his chances at 147 ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 21:48
by Badhusker
Tanzio wrote:Hitman Jr is an excellent fighter, who is in the current elite class. However, he has not faced a truly devastating puncher up to now. I would like to see how he deals with Matthysse or better yet Danny.

Didn't Gamboa rock him a bit? I think Crawford beats everyone except Spence, and think fights like Porter, Garcia, and Thurman would be fun to watch. When interviewed asking about a potential fight with Spence, Crawford didn't sound too confident, and talked like he was sure Spence would move up. Spence is quite a bit bigger, but Crawford would make a tough fight for anyone.

Re: Crawford and his chances at 147 ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 22:00
by Counter-puncher
Badhusker wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Hitman Jr is an excellent fighter, who is in the current elite class. However, he has not faced a truly devastating puncher up to now. I would like to see how he deals with Matthysse or better yet Danny.

Didn't Gamboa rock him a bit?.
Yes, although it gets overplayed by people and Crawford was boxing back very quickly IIRC

Regarding Spence Crawford I think Spences combination of size and agresssion, with athleticism and skill, would prevail against Crawford, though Crawford's contrasting style would make it a fascinating and close matchup. Albeit with differing styles to the original, something of a Leonard-Hearns for the modern era

Re: Crawford and his chances at 147 ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 23:08
by boxing_rocks
Counter-puncher wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Hitman Jr is an excellent fighter, who is in the current elite class. However, he has not faced a truly devastating puncher up to now. I would like to see how he deals with Matthysse or better yet Danny.

Didn't Gamboa rock him a bit?.
Yes, although it gets overplayed by people and Crawford was boxing back very quickly IIRC

Regarding Spence Crawford I think Spences combination of size and agresssion, with athleticism and skill, would prevail against Crawford, though Crawford's contrasting style would make it a fascinating and close matchup. Albeit with differing styles to the original, something of a Leonard-Hearns for the modern era
Crawford would not trade with Spence.

Re: Crawford and his chances at 147 ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 23:09
by boxing_rocks
Tanzio wrote:Hitman Jr is an excellent fighter, who is in the current elite class. However, he has not faced a truly devastating puncher up to now. I would like to see how he deals with Matthysse or better yet Danny.
He would deal with them the same way he dealt with Postol.

Re: Crawford and his chances at 147 ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 23:24
by Counter-puncher
boxing_rocks wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
Badhusker wrote:

Didn't Gamboa rock him a bit?.
Yes, although it gets overplayed by people and Crawford was boxing back very quickly IIRC

Regarding Spence Crawford I think Spences combination of size and agresssion, with athleticism and skill, would prevail against Crawford, though Crawford's contrasting style would make it a fascinating and close matchup. Albeit with differing styles to the original, something of a Leonard-Hearns for the modern era
Crawford would not trade with Spence.
I don't recall saying he would

In fact given that I was contrasting Spences aggression with Crawfords 'contrasting style' you might infer that I am implying Crawford would do what we call 'box' against Spence

Re: Crawford and his chances at 147 ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 23:41
by Tanzio
boxing_rocks wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Hitman Jr is an excellent fighter, who is in the current elite class. However, he has not faced a truly devastating puncher up to now. I would like to see how he deals with Matthysse or better yet Danny.
He would deal with them the same way he dealt with Postol.
Postol was not as big a one shot threat as either Matthysse or Danny would be. They are also not as tall and long as Postol. Either would have to make it physical, taking two to ten for one. They would need to get serious respect with body and power to make Hitman Jr cautious enough to second guess. He would have to be far more cautious than he had to be with Diaz. He will need to be as offensive as he was v Diaz and as slick as he was v Postol.

Re: Crawford and his chances at 147 ?

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 23:59
by boxing_rocks
Counter-puncher wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
Yes, although it gets overplayed by people and Crawford was boxing back very quickly IIRC

Regarding Spence Crawford I think Spences combination of size and agresssion, with athleticism and skill, would prevail against Crawford, though Crawford's contrasting style would make it a fascinating and close matchup. Albeit with differing styles to the original, something of a Leonard-Hearns for the modern era
Crawford would not trade with Spence.
I don't recall saying he would

In fact given that I was contrasting Spences aggression with Crawfords 'contrasting style' you might infer that I am implying Crawford would do what we call 'box' against Spence
Right, I misread Leonard-Hearns as Hagler-Hearns.

Re: Crawford and his chances at 147 ?

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 01:37
by Ezzard
I don't want to see Crawford in with Pac...at this point it's a mismatch. Pac is there on name only. Crawford would also easily beat Garcia.

He needs to fight Thurman, Spence, Brook (if he stays at 147) or Porter. Those are the only fights I'm interested seeing him in...otherwise it's just more of the same tedious overmatched opponents with commentary team who have no interest in anything other than praising their man.