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Rob3_142 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

Same with Ruiz.

Yep.

I got it! Kownacki vs Andy Ruiz...Winner gets a personal nutritionist

Or the prize to the winner, a pie!

Watch 'em go then!

Chris Arreola wants in on this action

gilgamesh wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Yep.

I got it! Kownacki vs Andy Ruiz...Winner gets a personal nutritionist

Or the prize to the winner, a pie!

Watch 'em go then!

Chris Arreola wants in on this action

and Kownacki just said he wants to fight Arreola next

After getting stopped badly twice I think its over for Szpilka.

Adam doesn't look impressive to the naked eye but his record has been impressive against limited opposition. He deserves a shot at the Arreolas, Kauffmans, Breazeales. Let's see how he does,

He should lose weight too as we've alluded to, but there have been semi successful fat HWs of course.

Tony1244 wrote:After getting stopped badly twice I think its over for Szpilka.

Adam doesn't look impressive to the naked eye but his record has been impressive against limited opposition. He deserves a shot at the Arreolas, Kauffmans, Breazeales. Let's see how he does,

He should lose weight too as we've alluded to, but there have been semi successful fat HWs of course.

Yeah but the key word there is semi...if he wants to get the best out of his talents he'll get in shape.

gilgamesh wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:After getting stopped badly twice I think its over for Szpilka.

Adam doesn't look impressive to the naked eye but his record has been impressive against limited opposition. He deserves a shot at the Arreolas, Kauffmans, Breazeales. Let's see how he does,

He should lose weight too as we've alluded to, but there have been semi successful fat HWs of course.

Yeah but the key word there is semi...if he wants to get the best out of his talents he'll get in shape.

I think his sloppiness is much worse than a bit of flab.

Blodhemn wrote:

RandomUsername wrote:I dont remember when it was but Lennox Lewis himself said it: There's something very right about Szpilka and there most certainly is, even yesterday that was evident, those things being perfect balance, veteran skills and great footwork. This was years ago however and now all there's left is just a fighter that there's something very very wrong with. When I watched the Jennings fight it looked to me like Szpilka was really the better fighter just with the wrong gameplan. I also think that Szpilka could very well have beaten Wilder but that ship sailed. It looks to me like Szpilka now has serious physical and even mental problems. I hope that he can get his affairs in order, there's no need to compile a XX-30 record, Szpilka should retire and try to enjoy life.

Szpilka is just athletic, nothing more. Jennings is more rigid but has the better learned skills despite less experience.

Szpilka has good footwork and balance, his issue is timing and distance.

asdfjkl wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Szpilka just had his comebackfight against another Polish boxer (who lives in the USA) called "Babyface" Adam Kownacki and lost his match in 4 rounds.
Adam Kownacki is now ranked above Breazeale, Andy Ruiz jr, Duhaupas and Molina for example in boxrec.

Babyface didn't impress me at all somehow during his fight, I still consider him far worser as Takam for example.

It shows once more that the heavyweight division is so inactive, that wins against avarage opposition could bring you in a high ranked spot in no time.


I must say with that, that it seems to me like a tiny bit of an early stoppage, despite Szpilka lost all rounds before the knock down and the stoppage.

You don't know anything about this sport dude if you weren't impressed with Babyface's KO over Szpilka. Even worse than that was the fact that you didn't think that was a good stoppage. You should probably go watch another sport because your boxing IQ is shat.

I wasn't impressed by him as in, I don't expect him to beat AJ, Wlad, or Fury. And I wouldn't have let it last much longer, but I would have let it go a bit longer. Also, as long as you don't join PTBF, you could just as good tell the wall it doesn't know anything about boxing. At the moment I clearly understand what's going on a lot better as you do.

Mate, you're the laughing stock of the board. Your IQ level is perfectly demonstrated by your belief that this stoppage was too early.

Dixonian wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
You don't know anything about this sport dude if you weren't impressed with Babyface's KO over Szpilka. Even worse than that was the fact that you didn't think that was a good stoppage. You should probably go watch another sport because your boxing IQ is shat.

I wasn't impressed by him as in, I don't expect him to beat AJ, Wlad, or Fury. And I wouldn't have let it last much longer, but I would have let it go a bit longer. Also, as long as you don't join PTBF, you could just as good tell the wall it doesn't know anything about boxing. At the moment I clearly understand what's going on a lot better as you do.

Mate, you're the laughing stock of the board. Your IQ level is perfectly demonstrated by your belief that this stoppage was too early.

I've seen many early stoppages. This was NOT an early stoppage. Do you want the guy to get killed? He was out on his feet and there was no protest.

Dixonian wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:

RandomUsername wrote:I dont remember when it was but Lennox Lewis himself said it: There's something very right about Szpilka and there most certainly is, even yesterday that was evident, those things being perfect balance, veteran skills and great footwork. This was years ago however and now all there's left is just a fighter that there's something very very wrong with. When I watched the Jennings fight it looked to me like Szpilka was really the better fighter just with the wrong gameplan. I also think that Szpilka could very well have beaten Wilder but that ship sailed. It looks to me like Szpilka now has serious physical and even mental problems. I hope that he can get his affairs in order, there's no need to compile a XX-30 record, Szpilka should retire and try to enjoy life.

Szpilka is just athletic, nothing more. Jennings is more rigid but has the better learned skills despite less experience.

Szpilka has good footwork and balance, his issue is timing and distance.

Plus hanging is arms out like he's not bothered about being punched in the face (then shortly after, being stopped [he also did this against Wilder]).

gilgamesh wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Yep.

I got it! Kownacki vs Andy Ruiz...Winner gets a personal nutritionist

Or the prize to the winner, a pie!

Watch 'em go then!

Chris Arreola wants in on this action

He probably preferes a spacecake, perhaps Wilder could help them out.

Can any moderators reading this message please recommend asdfjkl for removal from the forum?

Rob3_142 wrote:Can any moderators reading this message please recommend asdfjkl for removal from the forum?

Just put him on ignore if you don't like his Wilder-related posts

I'd be happy with certain posters being removed, but it's a lot easier just to 'add foe' and ignore the nonsense, rather than throwing fuel on it by repeatedly engaging.

He has just had a car full of weed, that's why I named him. If you can't handle reality, then just leave this forum.

I have seen Kownacki fight several times in person. You can criticize his physique, but this was actually the best shape I have seen him in. This was also the best performance I have seen him put on. His personal "rocky" moment against a more skilled foe. The majority of fans in attendance were there to see him fight and he seemed to feed off the crowd. Kownacki's hand speed always seemed slower than average to me, but he consistently carries deceptive power in his punches and his chin is solid.

I am not sure any fighter is the same after coming off a knockout that leaves you unconscious for over ten minutes. I think Kownacki should fight other Polish fighters like Wawrzyk and Wach in Brooklyn where he can draw well and further build his following.

asdfjkl wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Szpilka just had his comebackfight against another Polish boxer (who lives in the USA) called "Babyface" Adam Kownacki and lost his match in 4 rounds.
Adam Kownacki is now ranked above Breazeale, Andy Ruiz jr, Duhaupas and Molina for example in boxrec.

Babyface didn't impress me at all somehow during his fight, I still consider him far worser as Takam for example.

It shows once more that the heavyweight division is so inactive, that wins against avarage opposition could bring you in a high ranked spot in no time.


I must say with that, that it seems to me like a tiny bit of an early stoppage, despite Szpilka lost all rounds before the knock down and the stoppage.

You don't know anything about this sport dude if you weren't impressed with Babyface's KO over Szpilka. Even worse than that was the fact that you didn't think that was a good stoppage. You should probably go watch another sport because your boxing IQ is shat.

I wasn't impressed by him as in, I don't expect him to beat AJ, Wlad, or Fury. And I wouldn't have let it last much longer, but I would have let it go a bit longer. Also, as long as you don't join PTBF, you could just as good tell the wall it doesn't know anything about boxing. At the moment I clearly understand what's going on a lot better as you do.

Well i guess we have a way to measure just how much you and I know about the sport and heavyweight talent then don't we? With Babyface's workrate, he's a tough out for any heavyweight and he's young so he's just going to get better. Let's see what kind of a career the kid has. I say he's going to be good enough fighter to be a serious contender for one of the world title belts and a full night for any of the champs right now.

asdfjkl wrote:He has just had a car full of weed, that's why I named him. If you can't handle reality, then just leave this forum.

Who is he? You use the word he a lot.

Tony1244 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:He has just had a car full of weed, that's why I named him. If you can't handle reality, then just leave this forum.

Who is he? You use the word he a lot.

Wilder, briggs, Povetkin or sprong. That's the only fighters assjack mentions.

Tony1244 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:He has just had a car full of weed, that's why I named him. If you can't handle reality, then just leave this forum.

Who is he? You use the word he a lot.

I think he's referring to Wilder. He has some personal vendetta against Wilder. I'm not sure what criminal offences outside of boxing have anything to with performance enhancing allegations. Unless of course he tested positive for cannabis.

Police in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, said in a statement they arrested Wilder on Wednesday after they found marijuana in his Cadillac Escalade. They say they stopped Wilder for a window tint violation. The department says officers got permission to search the vehicle after smelling marijuana and found a small amount in the vehicle’s console.

Wilder was charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession and released on $1,000 bond.

Wilder’s attorney Paul Patterson told the Tuscaloosa News that the marijuana did not belong to Wilder and that someone had used his vehicle when he was out of town. “Deontay has been out-of-state for several days,” he said. “He returned home today from Georgia driving his Rolls Royce and selected his Cadillac Escalade from his fleet of vehicles to run errands.

marvelous marv wrote:I have seen Kownacki fight several times in person. You can criticize his physique, but this was actually the best shape I have seen him in. This was also the best performance I have seen him put on. His personal "rocky" moment against a more skilled foe. The majority of fans in attendance were there to see him fight and he seemed to feed off the crowd. Kownacki's hand speed always seemed slower than average to me, but he consistently carries deceptive power in his punches and his chin is solid.

I am not sure any fighter is the same after coming off a knockout that leaves you unconscious for over ten minutes. I think Kownacki should fight other Polish fighters like Wawrzyk and Wach in Brooklyn where he can draw well and further build his following.

Interesting post, thanks for that. Nice to hear from someone who was there.
I think it is good to discuss these younger HW up and comers. Like I said earlier in this thread, the top ten has aging fighters pushing mid 30's and up.
I want to know the future contenders as depending on where you live or how you get your boxing viewing, you might not get to see them until "the big night".
How many of, say the top 15 will be boxing in two years time?
And who will fill those places?
AJ is 27, so is Parker. Long careers ahead of at least one if those guys so who will they face in 2020?
Whenever I see someone like Baby Face I think, how will they go in 2 years time, are they improving? Can they win in the next step up?
Stuff I want to know because as I see it there are only 4-5 more guys at the moment I would bother watching AJ fight. He has brought the HW division out of the doledrums, like him or not, but that momentum needs to continue.

KiwiRider wrote:

marvelous marv wrote:I have seen Kownacki fight several times in person. You can criticize his physique, but this was actually the best shape I have seen him in. This was also the best performance I have seen him put on. His personal "rocky" moment against a more skilled foe. The majority of fans in attendance were there to see him fight and he seemed to feed off the crowd. Kownacki's hand speed always seemed slower than average to me, but he consistently carries deceptive power in his punches and his chin is solid.

I am not sure any fighter is the same after coming off a knockout that leaves you unconscious for over ten minutes. I think Kownacki should fight other Polish fighters like Wawrzyk and Wach in Brooklyn where he can draw well and further build his following.

Interesting post, thanks for that. Nice to hear from someone who was there.
I think it is good to discuss these younger HW up and comers. Like I said earlier in this thread, the top ten has aging fighters pushing mid 30's and up.
I want to know the future contenders as depending on where you live or how you get your boxing viewing, you might not get to see them until "the big night".
How many of, say the top 15 will be boxing in two years time?
And who will fill those places?
AJ is 27, so is Parker. Long careers ahead of at least one if those guys so who will they face in 2020?
Whenever I see someone like Baby Face I think, how will they go in 2 years time, are they improving? Can they win in the next step up?
Stuff I want to know because as I see it there are only 4-5 more guys at the moment I would bother watching AJ fight. He has brought the HW division out of the doledrums, like him or not, but that momentum needs to continue.

Parker is still only 25, and Hughie 23. Both fighters still in their boxing infancy.

In the British top 20, there is currently 6 guys under the age of 25. Of them, I've seen Gorman, Dubois and Allen fight. So far only Gorman and Dubois show anything of note, but both still got a long way to go too.

Outside of the UK, you have a couple decent German's which could do something at European level. Agit Kabayel who's 24, coming off the back of two good wins. He needs a top 50 fight to assess his level. Tom Schwarz also ranked inside top 50, but still waiting for that step up fight. Both still young so probably won't be rushed if managed properly.

Rob3_142 wrote:

Dixonian wrote:

Blodhemn wrote: Szpilka is just athletic, nothing more. Jennings is more rigid but has the better learned skills despite less experience.

Szpilka has good footwork and balance, his issue is timing and distance.

Plus hanging is arms out like he's not bothered about being punched in the face (then shortly after, being stopped [he also did this against Wilder]).

Yeah maybe he's just not very bright!

RandomUsername wrote:

Dixonian wrote:
Mate, you're the laughing stock of the board. Your IQ level is perfectly demonstrated by your belief that this stoppage was too early.

He's the laughing stock of this board cause he doesnt believe in an obvious fraud?

Can you explain how that relates to my comment?

Dixonian wrote:

RandomUsername wrote:

Dixonian wrote:
Mate, you're the laughing stock of the board. Your IQ level is perfectly demonstrated by your belief that this stoppage was too early.

He's the laughing stock of this board cause he doesnt believe in an obvious fraud?

Can you explain how that relates to my comment?