Szpilka lost in 4 rounds

[asdfjkl]

Szpilka just had his comebackfight against another Polish boxer (who lives in the USA) called "Babyface" Adam Kownacki and lost his match in 4 rounds.
Adam Kownacki is now ranked above Breazeale, Andy Ruiz jr, Duhaupas and Molina for example in boxrec.

Babyface didn't impress me at all somehow during his fight, I still consider him far worser as Takam for example.

It shows once more that the heavyweight division is so inactive, that wins against avarage opposition could bring you in a high ranked spot in no time.


I must say with that, that it seems to me like a tiny bit of an early stoppage, despite Szpilka lost all rounds before the knock down and the stoppage.

[dagilechia]

Szpilka was standing but was unconscious, if the fight lasted 10 seconds more he would be KO'ed hard - for me it was a good stoppage

[Badhusker]

Szpilka looked shot, and Kow looked like he had better stick to tough man contests, and far away from the top heavyweights.

[Rob3_142]

Thought it was a very good stoppage. Had it gone on any longer, there could well have been a Wilder style KO. That being said, Szpilka shows almost zero ring intelligence. Stood there with his arms out saying 'hit me' which Kownacki duly obliged.

Babyface didn't impress me at all somehow during his fight, I still consider him far worser as Takam for example.

I think you underestimate that performance, or Kownacki's as a fighter. He has a very high punch volume and has very impressive accuracy. Granted he needs to work on his footwork, and his defence is next to non-existent, but he commands the centre of the ring and is a front foot fighter who'll put it on his opposition. He'll get relatively easily beaten by a top 10 fighter, but granted it'll be entertaining. Wouldn't mind seeing him in with Breazeale!

Well deserved win, and will be looking out for his next fight.

[Tony1244]

Mild upset. Szpilka looked shot. Adam is solid but limited.

[Mexi-Box]

Szpilka looked shot, and Kow looked like he had better stick to tough man contests, and far away from the top heavyweights.

He can cut off the ring well, and he killed Szpilka in less time than it took Wilder who struggled hard. Szpilka isn't shot. He's never been that great nor had the best punch resistance. He got stopped by featherfisted Jennings. Szpilka only has been overrated because he gave Wilder hell. This dude went life and death with Mike Mollo.

[jujigatame]

Kownacki doesn't look the part but he threw a ton of punches for a HW. Would like to see him fight Breazeale next.

[dagilechia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2yU4zdCqvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUOG ... -WKRE3uLg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy-kRfGaYQw

Punch Stats:
Kownacki 63/222 (28%)
Szpilka 27/144 (19%)

[gilgamesh]

Wilder was losing to Szpilka and took 9 rounds to knock him out

Adam Kownacki was fat and out of shape...knocked him out in 4.

[punchoutsb]

Szpilka looked shot, and Kow looked like he had better stick to tough man contests, and far away from the top heavyweights.

He's better than former "Heavyweight Champion" Charles Martin. Fres Oquendo will be fighting for a title soon. Bermane Stiverne will be fighting for a title soon. Razvan Cojanu recently fought for a title. Check out virtually any of Wilder's defenses.

Pretty much anybody that doesn't fall from a stiff breeze has a chance to become a contender these days.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Wilder was losing to Szpilka and took 9 rounds to knock him out

Adam Kownacki was fat and out of shape...knocked him out in 4.

Wilder was losing to Szpilka..

Also Kownacki doesn't know what it feels like to lose..

[gilgamesh]

Wilder was losing to Szpilka and took 9 rounds to knock him out

Adam Kownacki was fat and out of shape...knocked him out in 4.

Wilder was losing to Szpilka..

Also Kownacki doesn't know what it feels like to lose..

Neither does Wilder...yet.

Kownacki and Wilder will both find out what it feels like though.

[Rob3_142]

Wilder was losing to Szpilka and took 9 rounds to knock him out

Adam Kownacki was fat and out of shape...knocked him out in 4.

You're right, but you know what it's like, some fighters will raise there game for a big fight. Just like underdogs in the FA Cup!

[gilgamesh]

Wilder was losing to Szpilka and took 9 rounds to knock him out

Adam Kownacki was fat and out of shape...knocked him out in 4.

You're right, but you know what it's like, some fighters will raise there game for a big fight. Just like underdogs in the FA Cup!

Indeed that is true. Still though. You'd think if you were able to trouble a deserving Champion as much as he troubled Wilder, you'd be able to kick Kownacki's fat ass.

To me...this shows us just how mediocre Wilder is.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Wilder is a massive puncher, that's his talent. Not sure why the guy with the nice tits last night showed you something that Mike Mollo didn't.

[punchoutsb]

Wilder's mediocrity of everything but power is pretty well established.

I don't think last night showed anyone anything about Wilder that they didn't already know. Szpilka is shot and should retire. His heart isn't in it anymore.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Wilder's mediocrity of everything but power is pretty well established.

I don't think last night showed anyone anything about Wilder that they didn't already know. Szpilka is shot and should retire. His heart isn't in it anymore.

Gil knows this, Wilder is his weakness. We all have them from time to time.

[crusader]

Szpilka was simply never that good, which is why he had wars with Mollo and got embarrassed and stopped by Jennings.

Like Eric Molina, pretty much all of his credibility came from beating a shot Adamek and giving Wilder problems.

[Heretic]

Wilder is a massive puncher, that's his talent. Not sure why the guy with the nice tits last night showed you something that Mike Mollo didn't.

This exactly

[Boxing Writer]

Szpilka was never close to be a top-10 material, but I have to say that Kownacki is pretty good. He has good fundamentals, decent power and excellent workrate. Would like to see him against Ruiz Jr., Miller, Breazeale.

[Lackeos]

a) Anyone should understand that elo-style ratings (boxrec is close to elo-style) are a measure of both quality and momentum. You are not extrapolating from the information properly if you give too much importance to the momentum bias. Kownacki is at his all-time peak rating right now, whereas Duhaupas and Takam are both in slumps, but both have had higher peak ratings.
b) Molina is pure sh*t; the only people who rate him at all are Wilder fans who have to respect Molina so that they can indirectly boost Wilder. Breazeale is also horrifically overrated, and the best opponents he's beaten who didn't bite through their own tongue were Ugonoh and Kassi (Ugonoh was also horribly overrated due to muscularity bias and undefeated bias).

Now, I certainly think that Ruiz probably belongs ahead of Kownacki, not 3 slots below him. But, for one thing, Ruiz doesn't have any substantial wins on his record that would validate a computer rating him higher, and that is HIS fault. But second, why the f*ck are you making an entire thread to complain that the #14 guy should be ranked above the #11 guy? That's like... an everyday, unremarkable inaccuracy. Not only is boxrec ordinarily that inaccurate, but most boxing fans' rankings are also that inaccurate or worse. If boxrec is inaccurately ranking the 100th best boxer ahead of the first best boxer, then you be sure to make a thread about that. But this is ordinary, everyday stuff that doesn't necessitate a thread.

[Rob3_142]

a) Anyone should understand that elo-style ratings (boxrec is close to elo-style) are a measure of both quality and momentum. You are not extrapolating from the information properly if you give too much importance to the momentum bias. Kownacki is at his all-time peak rating right now, whereas Duhaupas and Takam are both in slumps, but both have had higher peak ratings.
b) Molina is pure sh*t; the only people who rate him at all are Wilder fans who have to respect Molina so that they can indirectly boost Wilder. Breazeale is also horrifically overrated, and the best opponents he's beaten who didn't bite through their own tongue were Ugonoh and Kassi (Ugonoh was also horribly overrated due to muscularity bias and undefeated bias).

Now, I certainly think that Ruiz probably belongs ahead of Kownacki, not 3 slots below him. But, for one thing, Ruiz doesn't have any substantial wins on his record that would validate a computer rating him higher, and that is HIS fault. But second, why the f*ck are you making an entire thread to complain that the #14 guy should be ranked above the #11 guy? That's like... an everyday, unremarkable inaccuracy. Not only is boxrec ordinarily that inaccurate, but most boxing fans' rankings are also that inaccurate or worse. If boxrec is inaccurately ranking the 100th best boxer ahead of the first best boxer, then you be sure to make a thread about that. But this is ordinary, everyday stuff that doesn't necessitate a thread.

Agreed, the OP is pretty stupid.

However the outcome of this particular fight is pretty decent conversation. I think especially considering the over-changing HW landscape.

[Blodhemn]

Szpilka was never close to be a top-10 material, but I have to say that Kownacki is pretty good. He has good fundamentals, decent power and excellent workrate. Would like to see him against Ruiz Jr., Miller, Breazeale.

Kownacki vs Ruiz Jr, I don't think the arena could handle that amount of colossal titty jiggle.

[asdfjkl]

@Lackeos, for me it's amazing to see how much power a boxer currently has by simply winning one fight against one reasonable rankedboxer. Bellew for example managed to get rank 3 heavyweight of the world by only winning against Daffy Duck (who didn't duck this cruiserweight, thinking it would make himself a rank 3 in the world).
The point is, if a random cruiserweight now beats Charles Martin, Stiverne, Molina, name it, then they are rank 5 of the world straight away!?
This comes because there is so much inactivity and politics behind boxing that any fight could shake up the rankings very strongly. Guys like Malik Scott barely ever fight and that's how they can become 40+ and without any problems still remain a top boxer for years. What has Stiverne shown in the past 3 years? Except a positive dopingtest? Hughie then ( Hughie is actually ranked quite low, except by some boxing federation)?
I'm sometimes quite annoyed by the rankings I see, because I know that some rank 150 ish guy is most likely better as some rank 10 ish guy, but simply doesn't get the chance to show it.

[Kalan]

I dont remember when it was but Lennox Lewis himself said it: There's something very right about Szpilka and there most certainly is, even yesterday that was evident, those things being perfect balance, veteran skills and great footwork. This was years ago however and now all there's left is just a fighter that there's something very very wrong with. When I watched the Jennings fight it looked to me like Szpilka was really the better fighter just with the wrong gameplan. I also think that Szpilka could very well have beaten Wilder but that ship sailed. It looks to me like Szpilka now has serious physical and even mental problems. I hope that he can get his affairs in order, there's no need to compile a XX-30 record, Szpilka should retire and try to enjoy life.

Jennings easily beat Szpilka... He wore him down. The Pole is no good and wasn't a viable contender for Wilder who just needed to get a good shot on him and get him out. About the same thing DW needed to do with Washington -- who is actually a better boxer than Szpilka, but has a ton of problems with his stance and defense.. Knowacki is no good either.. Ruiz is actually a good boxer and beat Parker.. He was robbed down under.. Ruiz just doesn't have any backing and doesn't physically look the part of a top Heavyweight. I knew he was a good Heavyweight when he hammered Hanks out in short order. It's going to be very tough for Ruiz to get any big fights going forward because he looked really good against Parker. Those were likely scores and I expected something like that.. I also do not expect Ruiz get any more deserved big fights... Boxing is a biz not a sport.