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Klitschko decked Joshua and had him in all kinds of trouble almost to the point of stoppage.

Evander wrote:Klitschko decked Joshua and had him in all kinds of trouble almost to the point of stoppage.

And then lost. Kind of important bit of detail you missed

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:Klitschko decked Joshua and had him in all kinds of trouble almost to the point of stoppage.

And then lost. Kind of important bit of detail you missed

I know what happened.
But if this is the start of ranking Anthony Joshua he's going to put through his paces and have to take criticism.

Evander wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:Klitschko decked Joshua and had him in all kinds of trouble almost to the point of stoppage.

And then lost. Kind of important bit of detail you missed

I know what happened.
But if this is the start of ranking Anthony Joshua he's going to put through his paces and have to take criticism.

He gets it from the most important person, McCracken. I’m sure if that’s not enough he can log onto boxrec and read nonsense from haters

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
And then lost. Kind of important bit of detail you missed

I know what happened.
But if this is the start of ranking Anthony Joshua he's going to put through his paces and have to take criticism.

He gets it from the most important person, McCracken. I’m sure if that’s not enough he can log onto boxrec and read nonsense from haters

If you're suggesting for a second I'm a hater you may want to check yourself.
I know who Robert is and what he does and he's very good at it.
Just saying in order to move up the rankings extraordinary things need to be done.
Earn it.

Start doing things we wouldn't expect Joshua.

Evander wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:
I know what happened.
But if this is the start of ranking Anthony Joshua he's going to put through his paces and have to take criticism.

He gets it from the most important person, McCracken. I’m sure if that’s not enough he can log onto boxrec and read nonsense from haters

If you're suggesting for a second I'm a hater you may want to check yourself.
I know who Robert is and what he does and he's very good at it.
Just saying in order to move up the rankings extraordinary things need to be done.
Earn it.

He’s rank 1 so I assume you mean all time rankings. Easier to do with a series of dancing partners. Things can change quickly in Sport though so well see

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
He gets it from the most important person, McCracken. I’m sure if that’s not enough he can log onto boxrec and read nonsense from haters

If you're suggesting for a second I'm a hater you may want to check yourself.
I know who Robert is and what he does and he's very good at it.
Just saying in order to move up the rankings extraordinary things need to be done.
Earn it.

He’s rank 1 so I assume you mean all time rankings. Easier to do with a series of dancing partners. Things can change quickly in Sport though so well see

Who ranked him ?

Max Kellerman ranked Lomachenko as P4P No1 in the same arena I was in when he beat Nicholas Walters in Vegas, I can assure you he wasn't worthy of that.

Roy Jones was there, I saw Tony Bellew there too and the only reason they would high rank Lomachenko that high was for tv purposes.
It's not true.
He's good but not at that level.

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
And then lost. Kind of important bit of detail you missed

I know what happened.
But if this is the start of ranking Anthony Joshua he's going to put through his paces and have to take criticism.

He gets it from the most important person, McCracken. I’m sure if that’s not enough he can log onto boxrec and read nonsense from haters

This is what happens in the modern fight game were fighters that have only a dozen fights are fighting for title fights . ! Yes hes is good and would beat Wilder probably on points but a champion at this level should have a lot more experience

Ossyrules wrote:

funso banjo baby wrote:yes they do.

they all have versions of the title and it would unify the baubles.

naturally that's worth 50/50

By that logic, josh has 2 belts to wilder/parkers 1. So 75/25.

Purse % don’t work like that anyway. See Canelo vs ggg

that's not the 'logic' I'm using.

all the baubles are worthless....until they are unified.

Joshua has no claim to anything other than number 1 status.

Like I've said before, until there is an offer made, arguing who deserves what purse is pointless. None of us have any idea what Wilder or Parker will accept. Parker will probably get the offer first.

Parker needs to give Ruiz jr a rematch to prove his worth.

Badhusker wrote:Like I've said before, until there is an offer made, arguing who deserves what purse is pointless. None of us have any idea what Wilder or Parker will accept. Parker will probably get the offer first.

Why does Wilder now suddenly ignore Parker himself?

Freedom wrote:Parker needs to give Ruiz jr a rematch to prove his worth.

pretty much nobody cares about that.if you thought ruiz won then get over it. decisions we disagree with are part of the game.

will the tub of lard actually fight again anyway?

Joshua is the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of the World... He's the main man in the Heavyweight Division and everyone knows it.. He can fight Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, Ortiz, Miller, and other significant Heavyweights.. He doesn't have to fight Wilder or Parker right now..

How old were Lewis and Holyfield when they fought a reluctant Tyson??? ... How long did it take to make Mayweather vs Pacquiao??? ... These fights are going to be made eventually because everybody wants to make money.. They don't have to be made until Wilder and Parker come to their senses about what the money split should be.. Joshua should get 70% of the money -- and it will still be the biggest payday those 2 will ever get.

There is always a danger that one or more of them gets beaten before those fights can get made... That risk always seems like a bigger deal than it is.

Did Pacquiao get beaten a couple times??? ... Did Ali and Frazier get beaten before their rematch and rubber match could be made??? Did Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis get beaten before any of their big fights could worked out and a negotiated agreement signed??? ... Did all those losses ever make the money any SMALLER when they finally fought??? ... So those fears are overblown.. When you lose you have to reestablish yourself and more motivation kicks in.

Kalan wrote:Joshua is the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of the World

No he isn't.

Freedom wrote:Parker needs to give Ruiz jr a rematch to prove his worth.

Ruiez is in danger of becoming another Stiverne. As in he is still in the mix after losing a title fight without actually fighting anyone at all since. Its a shame really, I find his style entertaing and a nice enough chap to boot.
If ony he would take a fight inside the top #20 and earn another shot.

Hearn: "I want more money!"

punchoutsb wrote:

Kalan wrote:Joshua is the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of the World

No he isn't.

YES he IS... Since Fury is currently NOT fighting and apparently has no intention of fighting soon... And AJ stopped the last man other than Fury who was the Lineal Heavyweight Champion -- for all the belts Fury couldn't or wouldn't defend...

Stiverne beat a setup to win his Heavyweight Championship -- a fat guy he'd already beaten very easily previously.. Stiverne could never compete with Wilder... Parker beat fat guy Ruiz to win his title... And he didn't really win that fight.. And who has Parker ever fought besides Takam, who also beat him on my card???

Kalan wrote:Joshua is the Lineal Heavyweight Champion of the World... He's the main man in the Heavyweight Division and everyone knows it.. He can fight Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, Ortiz, Miller, and other significant Heavyweights.. He doesn't have to fight Wilder or Parker right now..

How old were Lewis and Holyfield when they fought a reluctant Tyson??? ... How long did it take to make Mayweather vs Pacquiao??? ... These fights are going to be made eventually because everybody wants to make money.. They don't have to be made until Wilder and Parker come to their senses about what the money split should be.. Joshua should get 70% of the money -- and it will still be the biggest payday those 2 will ever get.

There is always a danger that one or more of them gets beaten before those fights can get made... That risk always seems like a bigger deal than it is.

Did Pacquiao get beaten a couple times??? ... Did Ali and Frazier get beaten before their rematch and rubber match could be made??? Did Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis get beaten before any of their big fights could worked out and a negotiated agreement signed??? ... Did all those losses ever make the money any SMALLER when they finally fought??? ... So those fears are overblown.. When you lose you have to reestablish yourself and more motivation kicks in.

That might be relevant to Joshua but it seems less so to Wilder and Parker. If Parker had lost to Hughie he'd not be being discussed and is unlikely to ever make his way back into the discussion.

Fight definitely belongs in the UK. I'd say 70-30 sounds about right. It would be a huge fight over there, and Wilder would be rolling in more money he has ever made.

Evander wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:
If you're suggesting for a second I'm a hater you may want to check yourself.
I know who Robert is and what he does and he's very good at it.
Just saying in order to move up the rankings extraordinary things need to be done.
Earn it.

He’s rank 1 so I assume you mean all time rankings. Easier to do with a series of dancing partners. Things can change quickly in Sport though so well see

Who ranked him ?

He won boxing matches, became the unified champ in his division. This is boxing. He’s number 1 in his weight

Ossyrules wrote:

Evander wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
He’s rank 1 so I assume you mean all time rankings. Easier to do with a series of dancing partners. Things can change quickly in Sport though so well see

Who ranked him ?

He won boxing matches, became the unified champ in his division. This is boxing. He’s number 1 in his weight

How many belts qualifies you to become unified champion? I thought you need all to become the unified champion. Maybe he is the semi-unified champion.