Re: How much longer does GGG have on top?
Posted: 01 Feb 2018, 12:17
Excellent post.caldo2025 wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 08:19I've been doing this long enough to know when someone has an agenda. You aren't a GGG fan and that's obvious. And that's ok. You are also obviously not a very knowledgeable boxing fan and that's ok too because you can learn. Anyone that knows anything about boxing scored the fight clearly for GGG.Guelwaar wrote: ↑31 Dec 2017, 03:07don't know what ggg-jacobs fight you were watching...on the night of the fight, i was watching live on tv and most of the posters online had jacobs winning...by a pretty convincing margin. i rewatched the fight recently and had it a very clear win for jacobs....when you say jacobs barely finished the fight on his feet, i don't know what you're talking about...jacobs looked very comfortable slapping ggg around the ring in the last 2 rounds....as for the size difference, how come ggg fans get to complain about fighters cutting weight?...if so, i can give you a ton of examples of fighters coming in way over the weight limit on fight night and you'd defend them to the end....caldo2025 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2017, 18:34 I’m as tired as GGG must be at this point with these types of posts or criticisms. GGG’s last 3 fights were tougher than any other boxer’s resume. I challenge you to find a fighter that has come remotely close to fighting the quality that GGG has.
He defeated a huge Jacobs on his home turf while being outweighed by at least 20 pounds on fight night. He won. He faced an undefeated Brook who again outweighed him and he broke Brooks face before half the fight was over. Then he capped it off by beating a running for his life Canelo on everyone’s scorecard. We all knew he needed a KO to get the win that night.
GGG hasn’t slipped at all. His level of opposition was top quality and bc he didn’t knock them all out, he’s slipping. There’s a reason why KO ratios slip with the top fighters like Floyd and Manny. It’s bc of the level of opposition. Floyd and Many could have continued knocking everyone out had they not fought the top talents. GGG HASN’T SLIPPED. HE’S JUST FIGHTING BETTER QUALITY. Jacobs barely finished the fight on his feet and Canelo ran the whole night. If Canelo stands his ground in May, he will be the next ko victim. GGG is the same GOAT at MW.
secondly, brook might have been heavier, but no question he was two weight classes smaller...and things happen in boxing. it wasn't like ggg outboxed or outfought brook...he landed one good shot in the first round that broke kells eyesocket...that's why kell gave up. other than that, he was handling ggg with ease.
no question the level of ggg's competition has gone up. i don't think he's really showed signs of slippage either....my point was that at 36, he's not gonna get faster or stronger...and given his performances in his last 3 fights, he's clearly not the best at mw...he's in the mix among the top at that weight class...but if canelo could give him that kind of trouble, imagine what andrade would do.
The GGG/Jacobs weight difference that night was far different than what you are referring to. Jacobs strategically decided to not fight for the IBF Belt the day of the fight and hence was not required to make weight the day of the fight. GGG still had to or else he would have had to forfeit the belt. That's WAY difference than a guy that just gains 25 pounds over night because both guys have the same opportunity to add fluids and get them as heavy as possible. In this fight, only one guy had to make weight the day of the fight while the other could gouge himself with food and liquids. That's an unfair advantage. Again, you probably didn't know this because I'm assuming that if you do not know how to score a fight then you don't care much about the intricacies regarding the details of the fights.
I'm not mad about it. I thought that it was a genius move by Jacobs but it does scream of desperation to pull something like that off in a big fight like this. In fact, the IBF has since changed it's rules regarding the second weight in as a result so if that isn't obvious that the weight clause made a huge difference in this one, then I'd prefer not to have a discourse with someone that doesn't appreciate facts as they relate to results. No Offense.
