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jamamb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 04:17 1 week till the guy hyped as the boogyman gets put to sleep by deontay

tell me he doesnt beat good opponents then

let me guess, suddenly joe parker and jarrell miller are better then ortiz

punchoutsb wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 12:42

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 04:17 1 week till the guy hyped as the boogyman gets put to sleep by deontay

tell me he doesnt beat good opponents then

let me guess, suddenly joe parker and jarrell miller are better then ortiz

I get that you're trying to take the opposite route of the blind Deontay haters by slobbing him so hard, but please don't expect any reasonable amount of change out of the group you're snipping at following this fight. By definition haters cannot be placated the same way jock sniffers will not be turned away.

This is Wilder's best opponent, and should be (by far...very far) his best win. It says more about the landscape than anything, but Deontay cannot be blamed for a weak division. He's been blamed for bottom feeding a weak division, but no doubt he's finally found a top opponent in Ortiz.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 15:15

punchoutsb wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 12:42

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Feb 2018, 04:17 1 week till the guy hyped as the boogyman gets put to sleep by deontay

tell me he doesnt beat good opponents then

let me guess, suddenly joe parker and jarrell miller are better then ortiz

I get that you're trying to take the opposite route of the blind Deontay haters by slobbing him so hard, but please don't expect any reasonable amount of change out of the group you're snipping at following this fight. By definition haters cannot be placated the same way jock sniffers will not be turned away.

This is Wilder's best opponent, and should be (by far...very far) his best win. It says more about the landscape than anything, but Deontay cannot be blamed for a weak division. He's been blamed for bottom feeding a weak division, but no doubt he's finally found a top opponent in Ortiz.

And Ortiz has finally found a top opponent in Wilder.

Why does Ortiz get a pass on opposition but Wilder is constantly demeaned?

Ortiz is lavished with a monster King Kong image by feasting on plenty questionable competition but Wilder only gets jeers for doing the same.

How come?

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:20 Polish boxing promotor Andrzej Wasilewski just posted on twitter that Ortiz maybe will be not approved by commision and that replacement is prepared and everything will be clear in next hour, are there any other sources of this info?

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:32

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:20 Polish boxing promotor Andrzej Wasilewski just posted on twitter that Ortiz maybe will be not approved by commision and that replacement is prepared and everything will be clear in next hour, are there any other sources of this info?

???

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:32

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:20 Polish boxing promotor Andrzej Wasilewski just posted on twitter that Ortiz maybe will be not approved by commision and that replacement is prepared and everything will be clear in next hour, are there any other sources of this info?

???

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:40

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:32

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:20 Polish boxing promotor Andrzej Wasilewski just posted on twitter that Ortiz maybe will be not approved by commision and that replacement is prepared and everything will be clear in next hour, are there any other sources of this info?

???

this and also a lot of rumors that Ortiz is gonna be replaced by Martin

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:43

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:40

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:32

???

this and also a lot of rumors that Ortiz is gonna be replaced by Martin

I can not believe..................

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:44

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:43

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:40

this and also a lot of rumors that Ortiz is gonna be replaced by Martin

I can not believe..................

well for now these are just rumours, we will see soon, i still believe this fight will happen

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:45

dagilechia wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:44

ValMar wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 17:43
I can not believe..................

well for now these are just rumours, we will see soon, i still believe this fight will happen

I hope so.

jamamb wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 18:03 its smart to have a replacement ready anyway, even if your pretty much sure the original fight will happen

JCS wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 18:09 Interesting Wilder came in so light... He could easily make Cruiser.

asdfjkl wrote: ↑27 Feb 2018, 04:53

Best Coast wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 23:19

asdfjkl wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 02:24
But they don't step in the ring with people so weak, that they know from very well that their life is at risk. If I'm smashing an old dementing granny in her face, then there is a fair chance she will die. Stiverne is an old, fat, out of shape dementing guy and there was a very big chance of him dying in the ring, we are all very lucky to see Wilder doesn't have such a hard punch, Klitschko would have killed him with the same punch he gave AJ.

Sorry, but you're being WAY too much of a drama queen.

Anyone who has followed boxing for any serious length of time knows that most every ring death in recent history has been from an accumulation of punches and not just one single shot.

Stiverne is an out-of-shape pig but his life was never in serious danger. To compare him to some "old demented granny" is limp-wristed drama queenery at its finest.

If you dont like Wilder, that's fine...but dont resort to nonsensical emo BS to try to justify your feelings. Just say "I think Wilder's a punk" and move on...

Nonono, I said it months and months beforehand, this was a dangerous match, Stiverne vs anyone with a heartbeat is currently a danger for Stiverne.
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... s#p4694688

Stiverne was at danger and I would have blamed the WBC if he would have died that night. There was a reason I predicted a first round KO, correctly.

I even wrote this later on:

asdfjkl wrote: ↑25 Jun 2017, 02:15 Derric Rossy, Stiverne his last opponent, yesterday got TKOed after several KDs in 4 rounds against this barely top 100 cruiserweight:
http://boxrec.com/boxer/489720

Stiverne, who got KD himself against Rossy is not facing a rank 100 cruiserweight, but a heavyweight champion of the world!

TBH I think even a rank 200 cruiserweight currently has a very fair chance of not just winning, but even KO Stiverne within 8 rounds.

JCS wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 18:09 Interesting Wilder came in so light... He could easily make Cruiser.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 22:37

JCS wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 18:09 Interesting Wilder came in so light... He could easily make Cruiser.

I don't know where he could cut another 14 plus pounds.

Wales wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 22:48

tiny_acres wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 22:37

JCS wrote: ↑03 Mar 2018, 18:09 Interesting Wilder came in so light... He could easily make Cruiser.

I don't know where he could cut another 14 plus pounds.

I’d agree exceptfoe the fact he (surely) hasn’t cut at all for the fight.
If he hasn’t cut - which surely he hasn’t - 14lbs off your natural weight of 214 would be a piece of piss