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oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 17:08 AJ beat Parker
Wilder beat Ortiz

That is all.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 17:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 17:08 AJ beat Parker
Wilder beat Ortiz

That is all.

I'm sick of conspiracy nuts.

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 16:15

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 16:02

Kalan wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 19:20 No only did Wilder get extra time to recover after the 7th.... The referee sent the boxers to neutral corners before he started the 8th... That was funny as Hell. That was BS... Only God knows if it changed the outcome... But it might have.

Ridiculous. The ref doesn't jump in at a critical moment during a round when one fighter is suddenly in trouble and rubber legged... to give him a medical checkup to make sure he's OK! That's the whole object of boxing, to do that to your opponent! That's totally indefensible. That's crazy. How can you defend that? Imagine if refs got in the habit of doing that when every fighter got hit hard and wobbled!

Yes, it was crazy (and very fishy) move, but in all fairness to referee, it looked more like ringside doctor called that break. Referee had to listen to him, because doctor could have sought something in Wilder that bothered him.

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 18:36

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 16:15

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 16:02


Ridiculous. The ref doesn't jump in at a critical moment during a round when one fighter is suddenly in trouble and rubber legged... to give him a medical checkup to make sure he's OK! That's the whole object of boxing, to do that to your opponent! That's totally indefensible. That's crazy. How can you defend that? Imagine if refs got in the habit of doing that when every fighter got hit hard and wobbled!

Yes, it was crazy (and very fishy) move, but in all fairness to referee, it looked more like ringside doctor called that break. Referee had to listen to him, because doctor could have sought something in Wilder that bothered him.

So the ringside doctor signaled for the action to stop because he was afraid that Wilder might get hurt? Hey, it's boxing not tiddly winks! The object of the game is to hurt the other guy and knock him down! Might be interesting to see a video of the ringside doctor. Did someone perhaps whisper something in to his ear first? Yes, crazy and indefensible - and yet you see right above they try to defend it by going on about "conspiracy theories" or saying it's a fait accompli (that means, it's over fordaboudit), which is just what I said above, what they always do. People yell and then it's just swept under the rug and forgotten. Crooked boxing.

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 18:46

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 18:36

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 16:15
Yes, it was crazy (and very fishy) move, but in all fairness to referee, it looked more like ringside doctor called that break. Referee had to listen to him, because doctor could have sought something in Wilder that bothered him.

So the ringside doctor signaled for the action to stop because he was afraid that Wilder might get hurt? Hey, it's boxing not tiddly winks! The object of the game is to hurt the other guy and knock him down! Might be interesting to see a video of the ringside doctor. Did someone perhaps whisper something in to his ear first? Yes, crazy and indefensible - and yet you see right above they try to defend it by going on about "conspiracy theories" or saying it's a fait accompli (that means, it's over fordaboudit), which is just what I said above, what they always do. People yell and then it's just swept under the rug and forgotten. Crooked boxing.

I'm not arguing your point, I just think that referee gets undeserved criticism for the job that was done by doctor.

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 18:49... That doctor should be called on the carpet and made to justify his actions.

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 19:04 How many Don Quixote's are there here?

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 19:08

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 19:04 How many Don Quixote's are there here?

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 19:10

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 19:08

oogiebe wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 19:04 How many Don Quixote's are there here?

LMAO! YEah! That's him! LOL!

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 19:01

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 18:49... That doctor should be called on the carpet and made to justify his actions.

Except it is not justifiable. He can't stop the fight right in the middle of the action like that and give the house fighter time to recuperate. He could have called off the fight and said that Wilder is unfit to continue, that's all.

There's a million cases like this in crooked boxing. People gripe for five minutes and then it's swept under the rug and you hear no more about it.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:54 Nothing's gonna come of it, but I'm kinda surprised they weren't raising hell about this the night it happened.

Badhusker wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 22:01

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 19:01

x2x wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 18:49... That doctor should be called on the carpet and made to justify his actions.

Except it is not justifiable. He can't stop the fight right in the middle of the action like that and give the house fighter time to recuperate. He could have called off the fight and said that Wilder is unfit to continue, that's all.

There's a million cases like this in crooked boxing. People gripe for five minutes and then it's swept under the rug and you hear no more about it.

X2X, why don't you, your brother asdfjkl, and your dad Kalan just STFU. Your hatred of Wilder and unconditional love of Povetkin is annoying, to say the least. Move on.

x2x wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:17

x2x wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:12


Immediately after the 60 seconds were up before anything at all happened? If there is any doctor checking to be done it should be done between rounds.

Apparently, this is the new rule and it cannot interfere with corner action, so...love it or hate it, it is what it is. I don't like it.

Maybe the "new rule" started with the Wilder-Ortiz fight and they told this ref to do it too so they can say, hey look refs always do that! I've never seen anything like it. *

Those additional seconds Wilder got at the beginning of rd. 8 were critical because he was rubber legged on queer street...and we know that the powers that be in boxing didn't want their Wilder cash cow to lose because they were counting on making big money with a Joshua-Wilder fight.

Boxing is so corrupt, and in the USA nowadays they are right in your face about it. They don't even care. Boxing has always been the domain of shady characters, but at least in the past the shady characters had the discretion to stay in the shadows and lend boxing at least the outward appearance of being a legitimate sport

* No, on second thought I probably have. I've seen so much crap in the crooked "sport" of boxing

asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 16:34 Then that docter should have stopped the fight and declare Ortiz to be the winner.

I hope that Povetkin, the Nelson Mandela of boxing will finally receive some justice and that Wilder, the Robert Ford of boxing will get what he deserves.

BitPlayer wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 04:04

asdfjkl wrote: ↑09 Apr 2018, 16:34 Then that docter should have stopped the fight and declare Ortiz to be the winner.

No because he checked him and found him to be ok to continue, like what normally happens with these checks

I hope that Povetkin, the Nelson Mandela of boxing will finally receive some justice and that Wilder, the Robert Ford of boxing will get what he deserves.

Everybodies FREE to take SARMs

x2x wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:17

x2x wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:12


Immediately after the 60 seconds were up before anything at all happened? If there is any doctor checking to be done it should be done between rounds.

Apparently, this is the new rule and it cannot interfere with corner action, so...love it or hate it, it is what it is. I don't like it.

Maybe the "new rule" started with the Wilder-Ortiz fight and they told this ref to do it too so they can say, hey look refs always do that! I've never seen anything like it. *

Those additional seconds Wilder got at the beginning of rd. 8 were critical because he was rubber legged on queer street...and we know that the powers that be in boxing didn't want their Wilder cash cow to lose because they were counting on making big money with a Joshua-Wilder fight.

Boxing is so corrupt, and in the USA nowadays they are right in your face about it. They don't even care. Boxing has always been the domain of shady characters, but at least in the past the shady characters had the discretion to stay in the shadows and lend boxing at least the outward appearance of being a legitimate sport

* No, on second thought I probably have. I've seen so much crap in the crooked "sport" of boxing

jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 09:25 so much butt hurt, though the beard face shield stuff was even worse

BitPlayer wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 03:11

x2x wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:17

Apparently, this is the new rule and it cannot interfere with corner action, so...love it or hate it, it is what it is. I don't like it.

Maybe the "new rule" started with the Wilder-Ortiz fight and they told this ref to do it too so they can say, hey look refs always do that! I've never seen anything like it. *

Those additional seconds Wilder got at the beginning of rd. 8 were critical because he was rubber legged on queer street...and we know that the powers that be in boxing didn't want their Wilder cash cow to lose because they were counting on making big money with a Joshua-Wilder fight.

Boxing is so corrupt, and in the USA nowadays they are right in your face about it. They don't even care. Boxing has always been the domain of shady characters, but at least in the past the shady characters had the discretion to stay in the shadows and lend boxing at least the outward appearance of being a legitimate sport

* No, on second thought I probably have. I've seen so much crap in the crooked "sport" of boxing

No it didn't. I've seen it loads recently on big cards, before too, probably because of a few deaths and serious injuries in the ring recently.


If they were checking out Ortiz you lot would be talking about them being desperate to stop him.

x2x wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 13:19

BitPlayer wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 03:11

x2x wrote: ↑10 Mar 2018, 14:22


Maybe the "new rule" started with the Wilder-Ortiz fight and they told this ref to do it too so they can say, hey look refs always do that! I've never seen anything like it. *

Those additional seconds Wilder got at the beginning of rd. 8 were critical because he was rubber legged on queer street...and we know that the powers that be in boxing didn't want their Wilder cash cow to lose because they were counting on making big money with a Joshua-Wilder fight.

Boxing is so corrupt, and in the USA nowadays they are right in your face about it. They don't even care. Boxing has always been the domain of shady characters, but at least in the past the shady characters had the discretion to stay in the shadows and lend boxing at least the outward appearance of being a legitimate sport

* No, on second thought I probably have. I've seen so much crap in the crooked "sport" of boxing

No it didn't. I've seen it loads recently on big cards, before too, probably because of a few deaths and serious injuries in the ring recently.


If they were checking out Ortiz you lot would be talking about them being desperate to stop him.

Can you show me a single example where a ref/ring doctor dived in at the cricial moment during a round when a fighter was wobbled and in trouble?

oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 13:21

x2x wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 13:19

BitPlayer wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 03:11

No it didn't. I've seen it loads recently on big cards, before too, probably because of a few deaths and serious injuries in the ring recently.


If they were checking out Ortiz you lot would be talking about them being desperate to stop him.

Can you show me a single example where a ref/ring doctor dived in at the cricial moment during a round when a fighter was wobbled and in trouble?

Never during a round. Could delay start of round. I had posted in this thread another fight where that happened.