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Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 10:12
by keirw
Boxerbeetle wrote: 07 May 2018, 09:40
horndawg80 wrote: 07 May 2018, 08:16 http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/spor ... _Costello/

Doesn’t say promising. I really hope Ed gives him one more go
I’d be interested to know exactly when Cox realised he could hurt Ryder, because to me it didn’t look like he managed it at any point?
Maybe he landed a punch on him 6 years ago during a sparring session? :maybe:

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 10:14
by TheCobra
I didn't see him hurt Ryder at any point in that fight. Ryder just took his time, let him come onto him and timed him with a nice shot.

Another one who we heard lots about from the gym was Frankie Gavin. World champion of the gym, could do amazing things. Bit different when there's another decent fighter in front of you in a real fight, not just pissing about in sparring.

I agree with one of the earlier posts, there's an element of delusion about people saying "I beat him in the gym", maybe Cox was just taking things far too seriously in gym spars when the other guys were just trying out moves and going through the motions to build up to a proper fight in the future. It's like saying you could play for United cos you beat Gary Neville in a kickabout in the garden.

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 10:33
by TheLeprechaun
Cox is prime fodder for good counter punchers

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 10:40
by Horse
TheCobra wrote: 07 May 2018, 10:14I didn't see him hurt Ryder at any point in that fight. Ryder just took his time, let him come onto him and timed him with a nice shot.
Yeah, he took his time and still managed to take Cox out in about 4 minutes.

Based on that performance is Cox even an Area level fighter?
TheCobra wrote: 07 May 2018, 10:14Another one who we heard lots about from the gym was Frankie Gavin. World champion of the gym, could do amazing things. Bit different when there's another decent fighter in front of you in a real fight, not just pissing about in sparring.
Gavin actually got some decent results though.

Levels above Cox.

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 11:16
by horndawg80
There’s no one else at Matchroom for him to fight?
Parker at Sauerland
Lennox Clarke & the fella he’s fighting (mind block... trained by Hatton... Daryl) are probably around his level at the mo. Maybe Jermaine smyle could be next?!?

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 12:05
by J Costello
BigDoofus wrote: 06 May 2018, 03:57 It was hot yesterday. I wondered why his trainer felt the need to get in the ring with a woolly hat on.
That woolly hat has my grandsons name on it I wear it for him. Sorry if that offends you

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 13:11
by samwbr
J Costello wrote: 07 May 2018, 12:05
BigDoofus wrote: 06 May 2018, 03:57 It was hot yesterday. I wondered why his trainer felt the need to get in the ring with a woolly hat on.
That woolly hat has my grandsons name on it I wear it for him. Sorry if that offends you
Whats the plan now?

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 13:17
by J Costello
samwbr wrote: 07 May 2018, 13:11
J Costello wrote: 07 May 2018, 12:05
BigDoofus wrote: 06 May 2018, 03:57 It was hot yesterday. I wondered why his trainer felt the need to get in the ring with a woolly hat on.
That woolly hat has my grandsons name on it I wear it for him. Sorry if that offends you
Whats the plan now?
I wish I knew mate. A little time out & sit down together but for now credit to John Ryder & Tony great win & good people

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 13:25
by horndawg80
Yeah Jamie must be hacked off to the max! Is he annoyed with himself?

I suppose you get that one opportunity and once lapse of concentration or your brain tells you to do something it could have ramifications (ie getting floored)

On another Jamie could’ve won. But yeah congrats to Ryder as he’s a decent bloke.

I imagine Eddie is like any sales boss. If you don’t hit your target you’re out of there. Has golden balls Hearn stated whether Jamie gets another throw of the dice?

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 13:27
by jamamb
i would like to see him fight someone like darryl williams or lennox clarke

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 13:29
by Horse
horndawg80 wrote: 07 May 2018, 13:25 Yeah Jamie must be hacked off to the max! Is he annoyed with himself?

I suppose you get that one opportunity and once lapse of concentration or your brain tells you to do something it could have ramifications (ie getting floored)

On another Jamie could’ve won. But yeah congrats to Ryder as he’s a decent bloke.

I imagine Eddie is like any sales boss. If you don’t hit your target you’re out of there. Has golden balls Hearn stated whether Jamie gets another throw of the dice?
Ryder would win 10 times out of 10.

Cox did nothing to suggest that he might win.

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 13:37
by samwbr
J Costello wrote: 07 May 2018, 13:17
samwbr wrote: 07 May 2018, 13:11
J Costello wrote: 07 May 2018, 12:05
That woolly hat has my grandsons name on it I wear it for him. Sorry if that offends you
Whats the plan now?
I wish I knew mate. A little time out & sit down together but for now credit to John Ryder & Tony great win & good people
Can he make 154 still?

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 14:58
by maley1984
jamamb wrote: 07 May 2018, 13:27 i would like to see him fight someone like darryl williams or lennox clarke

He cud go for the winner of those 2 for English title. They fight in June

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 15:16
by jamamb
lol didnt know that, thats a very well-matched fight :yay:

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 15:41
by Horse
Is Adam Etches still fighting?

Wouldn't mind seeing that one.

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 16:39
by TheLeprechaun
horndawg80 wrote: 07 May 2018, 13:25 Yeah Jamie must be hacked off to the max! Is he annoyed with himself?

I suppose you get that one opportunity and once lapse of concentration or your brain tells you to do something it could have ramifications (ie getting floored)

On another Jamie could’ve won.

Cox never beats Ryder on any night

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 18:02
by ShadrachSimmo
TheLeprechaun wrote: 07 May 2018, 16:39
horndawg80 wrote: 07 May 2018, 13:25 Yeah Jamie must be hacked off to the max! Is he annoyed with himself?

I suppose you get that one opportunity and once lapse of concentration or your brain tells you to do something it could have ramifications (ie getting floored)

On another Jamie could’ve won.

Cox never beats Ryder on any night
In the gym though..... :bag:

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 18:32
by mickey1975
Fair play to John for coming on.

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 07 May 2018, 19:02
by Stuarty
Tough, domestic level type. Glad Ryder whipped him.

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 09 May 2018, 07:38
by Aido
jamamb wrote: 05 May 2018, 16:38 just curious, all those people who really rated him, thought he was euro level easy etc. thought hed prove the talent when he got the chance

how do you rate him now?
In fairness he didn’t have sparring with the ex Mrs this time so that could have had an effect

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 09 May 2018, 09:27
by jamamb
Aido wrote: 09 May 2018, 07:38
jamamb wrote: 05 May 2018, 16:38 just curious, all those people who really rated him, thought he was euro level easy etc. thought hed prove the talent when he got the chance

how do you rate him now?
In fairness he didn’t have sparring with the ex Mrs this time so that could have had an effect
:o :oo :lol:

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 11 May 2018, 16:56
by KiwiRider
Cox's team are talking about protesting the count.
I don't think they have a wobbly leg to stand on.
The rules say;
BBBoC Rule 3.32—‘a boxer is deemed to be ‘down’ by one of four criteria, one of which is ‘when the boxer is in the act of rising’,—so it is likely it will be argued that he was ‘counted out in the act of rising’,

Thoughts?
Was the count OK?

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 11 May 2018, 16:58
by Horse
KiwiRider wrote: 11 May 2018, 16:56 Cox's team are talking about protesting the count.
I don't think they have a wobbly leg to stand on.
The rules say;
BBBoC Rule 3.32—‘a boxer is deemed to be ‘down’ by one of four criteria, one of which is ‘when the boxer is in the act of rising’,—so it is likely it will be argued that he was ‘counted out in the act of rising’,

Thoughts?
Was the count OK?
Cox is a puss, he has no balls.

I'm sick of this clown.

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 11 May 2018, 16:59
by jamamb
the count and the ruling of a knockout were both 100 percent legit

Re: revised opinions on jamie cox?

Posted: 12 May 2018, 03:38
by keirw
KiwiRider wrote: 11 May 2018, 16:56 Cox's team are talking about protesting the count.
I don't think they have a wobbly leg to stand on.
The rules say;
BBBoC Rule 3.32—‘a boxer is deemed to be ‘down’ by one of four criteria, one of which is ‘when the boxer is in the act of rising’,—so it is likely it will be argued that he was ‘counted out in the act of rising’,

Thoughts?
Was the count OK?
The count was administered to the letter of the law, they are wasting their time.
What's the best they can hope for by doing this?
That it changes from KO to TKO on the record?

They would be better off getting Jamie back in the gym and hassling Eddie to get him back out as soon as his supension is over.

He has a promoter with lots of dates who doesn't mind throwing a few mismatches on his cards, they should take full advantage of that fact.

A couple wins under his belt and he could well be in line for another proper fight, we see it all the time.