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Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 13 May 2018, 16:57
by ewenhay
I don't think George will be losing too much sleep over this. Smith doesn't have a belt and
when he's fit he can probably fight whoever he wants these days and make decent money.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 13 May 2018, 16:59
by jamamb
ewenhay wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:57
I don't think George will be losing too much sleep over this. Smith doesn't have a belt and
when he's fit he can probably fight whoever he wants these days and make decent money.
ya you mght be rght. wonder if he could unfy in a degale rematch.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 13 May 2018, 17:13
by oogiebe
If I could buy Eubank for what he's worth and sell him for what he THINKS he's worth, I'd be rich.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 13 May 2018, 17:22
by Syntax Error
Coco wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:15
Eubank is a great replacement, he will generate a lot of interest and make it a great fight, when has he ever been in a bad fight?
Also he will have learned a lot against Groves too.
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What makes you think that?
He didn't learn from the Saunders defeat & went onto lose to Groves in much the same way.
Eubank Jr doesn't listen to his trainers, so I'm not optimistic about him learning anything.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 13 May 2018, 17:24
by oogiebe
Syntax Error wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 17:22
Coco wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 10:15
Eubank is a great replacement, he will generate a lot of interest and make it a great fight, when has he ever been in a bad fight?
Also he will have learned a lot against Groves too.
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What makes you think that?
He didn't learn from the Saunders defeat & went to lose to Groves in much the same way.
Eubank Jr doesn't listen to his trainers, so I'm not optimistic about him learning anything.
Eubanks has and will continue to waste his talent. You can't teach someone that knows everything.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 13 May 2018, 17:37
by ScottDetonator
Wonder how much money this will cost Groves?
How much will it make Eubank?
Should wait for the right final. Makes it all a bit pointless.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 13 May 2018, 17:37
by oogiebe
ScottDetonator wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 17:37
Wonder how much money this will cost Groves?
How much will it make Eubank?
Should wait for the right final. Makes it all a bit pointless.
Unfortunately yes.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 13 May 2018, 23:56
by Grilling Machine
I think it depends on who's able to control the range for the most part. Smith's tall frame should be made for Eubank on the inside, but with Eubank's lack of straights, along with his slow footwork and poor head movement, he's made for Smith on the outside.
As the better boxer, I'd favour Smith to keep it at his preferred range more often than not. It's a tougher fight for him than Holzken, but a similar approach. Eubank's greatest strength is that you can't dent his workrate; he's relentless, and if you can't make him pay then you're in danger.
But yeah, I think Smith's too skilful to outpoint if he's on his game, and he's solid enough to cope with Eubank's power unless it's delivered in unexpected volume. (That last sentence reads like Big Ron!)
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 00:45
by nitro5912
Horse wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 15:05
bripez wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 15:01How did he get on?
He did alright.
He lost both.
Saunders he lost despite Saunders gassing at midway.
Groves he lost with ease, a simple half step back and to the side of eubank and he was flummoxed. Missed all night long with wild swings because groves outboxed him.
He certainly didn't do alright v groves
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 01:12
by tobyh5
If we have to have a sub for whatever reason (business model dictating each season finishes before the next etc) then throw good money at David Benavidez or Jose Uzcategui, maybe even get Gilberto Ramirez's opponent to take some step aside money.
How about Degale? He wants a big domestic fight.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 02:29
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:59
ewenhay wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:57
I don't think George will be losing too much sleep over this. Smith doesn't have a belt and
when he's fit he can probably fight whoever he wants these days and make decent money.
ya you mght be rght. wonder if he could unfy in a degale rematch.
I can see that on ITV Box Office. Could do some decent numbers.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 03:51
by jamesmcdonnell
ScottDetonator wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 17:37
Wonder how much money this will cost Groves?
How much will it make Eubank?
Should wait for the right final. Makes it all a bit pointless.
groves doesnt really need it, beating smith is no big deal for him.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 06:12
by ILikeBeer
It certainly makes the whole contest format pointless.
Especially when ITV are expecting you to pay £15 to watch Callum Smith fight the loser from a semi-final.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 06:52
by D4v3
To play devils advocate, whilst he absolutely doesn't deserve the opportunity, its at least a much more interesting fight than any of the other likely replacements
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 07:06
by vidal
What's more worrying is that clearly this is a significant injury and I'm starting to wonder whether it might be the beginning of the end for Groves....... as a fan it would be very sad indeed.
I think that the PPV numbers will plummet now and I suspect that they did everything in order to accommodate Groves' injury knowing that......... the fact that they've been unable to suggests the severity of the injury.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 07:27
by tigermoth87
vidal wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 07:06
What's more worrying is that clearly this is a significant injury and I'm starting to wonder whether it might be the beginning of the end for Groves....... as a fan it would be very sad indeed.
I think that the PPV numbers will plummet now and I suspect that they did everything in order to accommodate Groves' injury knowing that......... the fact that they've been unable to suggests the severity of the injury.
One of my favourite fighters. I hope he can come back from it. Hope he doesn't rush things.
On one hand, this might be a blessing for him. Give him a chance vto fully recover rather than rushing back before he's healed.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 08:59
by CMDY
Shame no Groves - but good domestic dust up. I can see the Smith that took out Fielding getting Eubank out of there. Prince Naz' said after Groves' win that he was gets the moral winner of the comp, and tend to agree with him.
I think it's unfortunate but the right thing to do by putting in a substitute rather than wait months and months.
I hope Groves can come back. Informed forum posters are suggesting the shoulder injury may even be career ending, if that's the case I'm grateful for the several great nights Groves has given us.
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 10:30
by vidal
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 14:04
by oogiebe
vidal wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 10:30
tea.... meet keyboard
LMAO!!! Get a blow drier, STAT!!!!!
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 14:23
by Oiky
Eubank is jank and will likely flop anyway
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 14:26
by oogiebe
Oiky wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 14:23
Eubank is jank and will likely flop anyway
100%
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 14:41
by Boxerbeetle
Fvck paying PPV for Smith-Eubank
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 14:42
by oogiebe
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 14:41
Fvck paying PPV for Smith-Eubank
If Eubank pays for my PPV out of this pocket, I
MAY watch...
Re: Eubank replaces Groves in final
Posted: 14 May 2018, 15:15
by Ezzard
I feel in the circumstances that this is the best that can happen. 12 months ago we would have thought great fight.
I am looking forward to it.
Bad luck for GG. I hope his career isn't over.