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Punchy Joe wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 05:28

banjo wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 15:34 Adam Smith with his over the top commentary "they don't like each other" "from the mean streets of Hyde" "teak tough" "Barrera vs Morales" "Kostya Tszyeeeewww" "Jaaaab" "There's the respect Jim" "WAR!" "Warriors" "spit and sawdust" "The famous Kronk gym" "Fighting City of Philadelphia" "Mexican Machismo" "The Great <insert name here>"

Somebody got this pudendum "The Big Book of Boxing Cliches" and he hasn't looked back since.

Apologies for the language, emotions are running high here.

Going on Sky Sports News looking really smug, and then repeating everything Eddie Hearn has just told him.
Saying "Anthony Joshua holds all the cards, he's a big ticket seller blah blah blah" and then looking really pleased with himself.
The way he says "Antoneeee Joshuuuwaaa!" really, really pisses me off too.

banjo wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 06:57

Punchy Joe wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 05:28

banjo wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 15:34 Adam Smith with his over the top commentary "they don't like each other" "from the mean streets of Hyde" "teak tough" "Barrera vs Morales" "Kostya Tszyeeeewww" "Jaaaab" "There's the respect Jim" "WAR!" "Warriors" "spit and sawdust" "The famous Kronk gym" "Fighting City of Philadelphia" "Mexican Machismo" "The Great <insert name here>"

Somebody got this pudendum "The Big Book of Boxing Cliches" and he hasn't looked back since.

Apologies for the language, emotions are running high here.

Going on Sky Sports News looking really smug, and then repeating everything Eddie Hearn has just told him.
Saying "Anthony Joshua holds all the cards, he's a big ticket seller blah blah blah" and then looking really pleased with himself.
The way he says "Antoneeee Joshuuuwaaa!" really, really pisses me off too.

He's just so out of place hanging around all these boxers, look at me, AJ is my mate. We had something like that over here with Jodie Kidd presenting the TT races, throws a leather jacket on and she thinks she's Barb Wire, piss off and play with ya 4 wheeled cages love!

I have even less time for Johnny Nelson who's effectively Smiths pet.

Other boxing peeves...

"Training Camp"

"Pound for Pound" P4P was just a little bit of fun to compare fighters at different weights who had no chance of fighting each other it isn't an actual title.

Celebrity "fans" more so in the UK than abroad, in the US you get world renowned musicians, movie stars and sportsmen, people like Brad Pitt, Ozzy Osbourne, Lebron James whereas in the UK we get Paul O'Grady and the cast of Coronation Street.

Stuarty wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 07:36

banjo wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 06:57

Punchy Joe wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 05:28

Going on Sky Sports News looking really smug, and then repeating everything Eddie Hearn has just told him.
Saying "Anthony Joshua holds all the cards, he's a big ticket seller blah blah blah" and then looking really pleased with himself.
The way he says "Antoneeee Joshuuuwaaa!" really, really pisses me off too.

He's just so out of place hanging around all these boxers, look at me, AJ is my mate. We had something like that over here with Jodie Kidd presenting the TT races, throws a leather jacket on and she thinks she's Barb Wire, piss off and play with ya 4 wheeled cages love!

I have even less time for Johnny Nelson who's effectively Smiths pet.

Other boxing peeves...

"Training Camp"

"Pound for Pound" P4P was just a little bit of fun to compare fighters at different weights who had no chance of fighting each other it isn't an actual title.

Celebrity "fans" more so in the UK than abroad, in the US you get world renowned musicians, movie stars and sportsmen, people like Brad Pitt, Ozzy Osbourne, Lebron James whereas in the UK we get Paul O'Grady and the cast of Coronation Street.

You used to always see that long dour streak of pish Jarvis Cocker at a lot of shows back in the day

banjo wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 07:38

Stuarty wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 07:36

banjo wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 06:57

He's just so out of place hanging around all these boxers, look at me, AJ is my mate. We had something like that over here with Jodie Kidd presenting the TT races, throws a leather jacket on and she thinks she's Barb Wire, piss off and play with ya 4 wheeled cages love!

I have even less time for Johnny Nelson who's effectively Smiths pet.

Other boxing peeves...

"Training Camp"

"Pound for Pound" P4P was just a little bit of fun to compare fighters at different weights who had no chance of fighting each other it isn't an actual title.

Celebrity "fans" more so in the UK than abroad, in the US you get world renowned musicians, movie stars and sportsmen, people like Brad Pitt, Ozzy Osbourne, Lebron James whereas in the UK we get Paul O'Grady and the cast of Coronation Street.

You used to always see that long dour streak of pish Jarvis Cocker at a lot of shows back in the day

I won't have anything bad said about the man who mooned Michael Jackson on stage.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 20:37

GreedyG wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 18:45 Sweet effing Caroline...

Yeah what's it all about? Just reminds me of £100 wedding reception's at working men's clubs.

deadpan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 11:14 People not understanding the 10 point must system.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 01:46 Low level boxers:

‘Team whoever’

‘Get at me for tickets before they sell out’ - if Joshua isn’t on the bill shows literally never sell out

‘Opportunity for sponsors to come onboard’ - no business benefit here but please give me free stuff

‘So and so are the best in the business for xxxxxxxx’ - I know nothing about scaffolding/building/whatever but this company gave me £200 to buy my shorts

‘Big news coming soon’

WestEndRiot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 17:56

deadpan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 11:14 People not understanding the 10 point must system.

A little pet peeve of mine with this system though is the following scenario, which is rare but does happen.

Fighter A wins a round clearly and its 10-9. He gets a late knockdown and its 10-8. So he essentially scores an extra point for that knockdown.

Fighter A is winning a round clearly for 2 minutes and 50 seconds and he is knocked down, then it becomes a 10-8 round for fighter B. That's a 3 point swing and for me isn't a fair reflection of the fight

WestEndRiot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 17:56

deadpan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 11:14 People not understanding the 10 point must system.

A little pet peeve of mine with this system though is the following scenario, which is rare but does happen.

Fighter A wins a round clearly and its 10-9. He gets a late knockdown and its 10-8. So he essentially scores an extra point for that knockdown.

Fighter A is winning a round clearly for 2 minutes and 50 seconds and he is knocked down, then it becomes a 10-8 round for fighter B. That's a 3 point swing and for me isn't a fair reflection of the fight

MarkMcBurney wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 03:15

WestEndRiot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 17:56

deadpan wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 11:14 People not understanding the 10 point must system.

A little pet peeve of mine with this system though is the following scenario, which is rare but does happen.

Fighter A wins a round clearly and its 10-9. He gets a late knockdown and its 10-8. So he essentially scores an extra point for that knockdown.

Fighter A is winning a round clearly for 2 minutes and 50 seconds and he is knocked down, then it becomes a 10-8 round for fighter B. That's a 3 point swing and for me isn't a fair reflection of the fight

That's not correct though. 10 point must simply means one fighter must have 10 points, not that you automatically win a round 10-8 if you knock your opponent down.

Take Round 5 of Joshua v Klitschko - Wlad goes down but wins the round - that should be a 10-10 round on the basis that Wlad wins the round, but is knocked down therefore has a drawn round instead of winning it. People seem to get confused with the knockdown/10 point must system meaning that a knocked-down fighter gets deducted a point for being knocked down - that isn't true.

The above scenario, using that analogy, would see Josh win the round 10-8, having been battered from pillar to post but having landed a good right hand. That just isn't right. 10-10 means he 'gains' from knocking Klitschko down in that he doesn't lose the round, but Klitschko doesn't lose the round purely by virtue of one punch, when he's given Joshua a shellacking for the other 2 minutes.

banjo wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 02:48

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 01:46 Low level boxers:

‘Team whoever’

‘Get at me for tickets before they sell out’ - if Joshua isn’t on the bill shows literally never sell out

‘Opportunity for sponsors to come onboard’ - no business benefit here but please give me free stuff

‘So and so are the best in the business for xxxxxxxx’ - I know nothing about scaffolding/building/whatever but this company gave me £200 to buy my shorts

‘Big news coming soon’

I don't get the issue with sponsorship, if you want to get anywhere in most sports you need sponsors, even if it does just buy you a pair of shorts, put petrol in your car to get to the venue, pay your hotel costs etc.

WestEndRiot wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 03:56

MarkMcBurney wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 03:15

WestEndRiot wrote: ↑25 Jul 2018, 17:56

A little pet peeve of mine with this system though is the following scenario, which is rare but does happen.

Fighter A wins a round clearly and its 10-9. He gets a late knockdown and its 10-8. So he essentially scores an extra point for that knockdown.

Fighter A is winning a round clearly for 2 minutes and 50 seconds and he is knocked down, then it becomes a 10-8 round for fighter B. That's a 3 point swing and for me isn't a fair reflection of the fight

That's not correct though. 10 point must simply means one fighter must have 10 points, not that you automatically win a round 10-8 if you knock your opponent down.

Take Round 5 of Joshua v Klitschko - Wlad goes down but wins the round - that should be a 10-10 round on the basis that Wlad wins the round, but is knocked down therefore has a drawn round instead of winning it. People seem to get confused with the knockdown/10 point must system meaning that a knocked-down fighter gets deducted a point for being knocked down - that isn't true.

The above scenario, using that analogy, would see Josh win the round 10-8, having been battered from pillar to post but having landed a good right hand. That just isn't right. 10-10 means he 'gains' from knocking Klitschko down in that he doesn't lose the round, but Klitschko doesn't lose the round purely by virtue of one punch, when he's given Joshua a shellacking for the other 2 minutes.

That's exactly my point. It's not correct according to the rules, but that's the way it always seems to go.

I did a quick Google search for the official AJ-Klitschko scorecards but I couldn't find them. What I did come across though was a collection of fans scorecards and an overwhelming majority scored round 5 as 10-8 to AJ. Which reinforces Deadpan's original point about people not understanding the system

keirw wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 05:57 I really can't stand it when they (mostly Americans) use the prefix 'junior' when talking about weight classes.

Calling them junior welterweights or junior middleweights implies that they are young welterweights or young middleweights, instead of fighters in a lighter weight class.

freddy73 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 12:34

keirw wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 05:57 I really can't stand it when they (mostly Americans) use the prefix 'junior' when talking about weight classes.

Calling them junior welterweights or junior middleweights implies that they are young welterweights or young middleweights, instead of fighters in a lighter weight class.

That anoys me too, notice they don't do it for Junior Heavyweight tho?

rhino222 wrote: ↑26 Jul 2018, 13:28 in the best shape of my life

and

the best camp ive ever had

Then make an excuse after losing!!