Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 03:28
What's that got to do with the BJS drug test ?
What's that got to do with the BJS drug test ?
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What's that got to do with the BJS drug test ?
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 03:30
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 03:41
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:30
I'm very skeptical about boxing's drug testing business. I think it's political.
The video itself could be dismissed very easily.
Just look at the stills.
It has a very pro Povetkin feel about it.
It's not very well done, it's actually detrimental to the cause it's suppose to serve.
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 03:45
That's very likely.Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:30
I'm very skeptical about boxing's drug testing business. I think it's political.
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 03:50
It's stupid and a pathetic attempt.
Kin ell ... This the best they can come up with, it's not even convincing accidently.
Kin ell ... This the best they can come up with, it's not even convincing accidently.
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 04:06
I watched the video posted by Ilya and yeah, it is weird that A side fighters almost never get caught, probably >90% are the B side fighters.
But this video featured Andrzej Wawrzyk who was caught on peds for the first time in his career before the Wilder fight. He doesnt look like a ped user because he is not. He took peds accidentally in contaminated supplements. His supplements were tested in National Institute of Drugs in Poland and the Institute proved that his supplements contain banned substances. What i mean is that there was no VADA conspiracy, at least not in this case.
Poor Andrzej was so devastated after this, he decided to end his career. Also his trainer Fiodor Lapin follows a rule if his fighter gets caught, doesnt matter he took peds accidentally or not, he ends to work with a fighter forever. Wawrzyk is a nice funny guy, smart as well, good to see him doing nice in business.
But this video featured Andrzej Wawrzyk who was caught on peds for the first time in his career before the Wilder fight. He doesnt look like a ped user because he is not. He took peds accidentally in contaminated supplements. His supplements were tested in National Institute of Drugs in Poland and the Institute proved that his supplements contain banned substances. What i mean is that there was no VADA conspiracy, at least not in this case.
Poor Andrzej was so devastated after this, he decided to end his career. Also his trainer Fiodor Lapin follows a rule if his fighter gets caught, doesnt matter he took peds accidentally or not, he ends to work with a fighter forever. Wawrzyk is a nice funny guy, smart as well, good to see him doing nice in business.
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 04:10
Everything in life is political, one big scramble for money.Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:30
I'm very skeptical about boxing's drug testing business. I think it's political.
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 06:39
You are so right. Its always a derivative of a normal common household food or medicine. "Ohhhhhhh that????? It's the funniest thing...I had a runny nose recently from eating some Mexican steak. That's all that was.....so how have you guys been? Good?".dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 03:01 Those cheaters never know that their "nose spray" or whatever they use as an excuse contains illegal substances before they get caught but just seconds after they get caught they get enlightened. It is always the same scheme.
BJS gets popped for a stimulant heading into camp. Every boxer absolutely hates training camp for a fight. It's one of the most miserable experiences especially if you have any weight to shed. A stimulant is a boxers best friend for sure. Look at how much weight Fury lost recently when he had his most recent bout of clarity? I bet he was knocking down lines of Adderroll every morning, noon and night.
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 07:33
Learn to read!caldo2025 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 23:16What a jackass. Wait Billy Joe says he’s innocent. No way. Oh I take it all back man. Idiot. EVERYONE says that they were innocent moron. It’s a burger. It’s nose spray. I bumped into a needle 15 times in 6 months. Look at the excuses that have been made from all of these cheaters who have been caught. Sugar Shane had the best excuses. Boxers never admit it. Name 5 that have been caught and admitted it.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 02:48Stop behaving like a fȕck¡ng prick! It’s not unreasonable to refrain from jumping to all sorts of derogatory conclusions about something or someone until you know everything about their particular situation!caldo2025 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2018, 22:00
You two boneheads think that these test are wrong? The tester just had a bad day or he had a rough weekend and used dirty piss cups? It’s a failed test. You can wait around for any excuse you want to use but his piss was dirty and the drug found in the urine is a common PED. This isn’t from a burger at Wendy’s. The guys nabbed, wrap it up. Let’s not tie up this site with more bs backing these cheating scumbags. He’s caught. They don’t take this crap public unless it’s a legit blown test so put ur patronism in a sack and take a hike. This screws up a great fight on the eve of HBO ditching its boxing programming. It’s a bad day for Boxing so shut up with ur grassy nole bs.
Have a read of this and either shut the fȕck up or apologise!
"Billy Joe Saunders insists he is a 'clean athlete' after authorities confirm the stimulant that triggered failed drugs test is permitted out of competition"
• Billy Joe Saunders returned an adverse analytical finding for stimulant oxilofrine
• He did not breach UKAD doping regulations as it is allowed out of competition
• Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn confirms nasal spray product was behind the failed drugs test
• Saunders defends his WBO world middleweight title against Demetrius Andrade
Billy Joe Saunders has insisted he is a 'clean athlete' following confirmation from the British Boxing Board of Control that he was 'not in breach of BBBofC or UKAD anti-doping regulations'.
Less than a month before Saunders is due to defend his WBO world middleweight title against Demetrius Andrade, reports emerged of an 'adverse analytical finding' in a drugs test.
However, promoter Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn said a nasal spray product that Saunders had used is permitted 'out of competition' and that the 29-year-old fighter was not in breach of any BBBofC or United Kingdom Anti-Doping regulations.
In a statement, Wȁɍɍȅn said: 'Following reports of an adverse analytical finding in a test carried out by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) on WBO world middleweight champion, Billy Joe Saunders, we can confirm that the product concerned is permitted to be used 'out of competition' by United Kingdom Anti-Doping (UKAD) in line with the regulations of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
'For the avoidance of doubt, the product in question was a common decongestant nasal spray.
'The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBofC) under whose jurisdiction Billy Joe Saunders is licensed are affiliated only to UKAD/WADA.
'Today the BBBofC have confirmed that Mr Saunders is not in breach of BBBofC or UKAD anti-doping regulations and is therefore in good standing and is licensed to box and defend his world title on October 20.
'Mr Saunders has been tested a number of times in 2018, all negative, his last out of competition test by UKAD was on 24th September 2018.'
Saunders wrote on his official Twitter account on Thursday night: 'Thank you to my fans who stick by me I'm a clean athlete and gonna be around a long time thank you all stay blessed.'
Saunders is due to defend his WBO world middleweight belt against Andrade in Boston on October 20.
There’s nothing more difinitive than an f’ng drug test. It tells you exactly what’s in someone’s body. What makes you boneheads think that every test is wrong. Just a bunch of idiotic fans. How much easier would camp be with a stimulant? Duhhhh
Both the BBBofC and UKAD state Saunders' innocence. They've written a letter to VADA.
UKAD follows the WADA code, but VADA's rules differ.
Why argue if you don't even make the effort to ascertain all the facts relating to a situation?
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 08:53
...what I find fascinating is a definion of what is "in competition" and what is "out of competition"...seems like a drug administered "out of competition" means 12+ hours prior to the bout whereas "in competition" is defined as 12 hours or less prior to the bout.. 
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 09:34
Every discussion on here turns into a competition in insulting discussants and their respective favored fighters. The facts have been stated multiple times by various participants, still the dumbest of idiots & the full on retards always refuse to get the obvious and puke up once again their bile, and again and again. Reading that shit is insipid, dull and tiresome.
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 17:20
No way, some UK based organization who no ones ever heard of wrote a letter in BJS’s favor? How shocking. I just found out that the GOSCREW Inc company wrote another letter saying that BJS’s goose is cooked because he’s dirty.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 07:33Learn to read!caldo2025 wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 23:16What a jackass. Wait Billy Joe says he’s innocent. No way. Oh I take it all back man. Idiot. EVERYONE says that they were innocent moron. It’s a burger. It’s nose spray. I bumped into a needle 15 times in 6 months. Look at the excuses that have been made from all of these cheaters who have been caught. Sugar Shane had the best excuses. Boxers never admit it. Name 5 that have been caught and admitted it.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 02:48
Stop behaving like a fȕck¡ng prick! It’s not unreasonable to refrain from jumping to all sorts of derogatory conclusions about something or someone until you know everything about their particular situation!
Have a read of this and either shut the fȕck up or apologise!
"Billy Joe Saunders insists he is a 'clean athlete' after authorities confirm the stimulant that triggered failed drugs test is permitted out of competition"
• Billy Joe Saunders returned an adverse analytical finding for stimulant oxilofrine
• He did not breach UKAD doping regulations as it is allowed out of competition
• Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn confirms nasal spray product was behind the failed drugs test
• Saunders defends his WBO world middleweight title against Demetrius Andrade
Billy Joe Saunders has insisted he is a 'clean athlete' following confirmation from the British Boxing Board of Control that he was 'not in breach of BBBofC or UKAD anti-doping regulations'.
Less than a month before Saunders is due to defend his WBO world middleweight title against Demetrius Andrade, reports emerged of an 'adverse analytical finding' in a drugs test.
However, promoter Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn said a nasal spray product that Saunders had used is permitted 'out of competition' and that the 29-year-old fighter was not in breach of any BBBofC or United Kingdom Anti-Doping regulations.
In a statement, Wȁɍɍȅn said: 'Following reports of an adverse analytical finding in a test carried out by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA) on WBO world middleweight champion, Billy Joe Saunders, we can confirm that the product concerned is permitted to be used 'out of competition' by United Kingdom Anti-Doping (UKAD) in line with the regulations of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).
'For the avoidance of doubt, the product in question was a common decongestant nasal spray.
'The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBofC) under whose jurisdiction Billy Joe Saunders is licensed are affiliated only to UKAD/WADA.
'Today the BBBofC have confirmed that Mr Saunders is not in breach of BBBofC or UKAD anti-doping regulations and is therefore in good standing and is licensed to box and defend his world title on October 20.
'Mr Saunders has been tested a number of times in 2018, all negative, his last out of competition test by UKAD was on 24th September 2018.'
Saunders wrote on his official Twitter account on Thursday night: 'Thank you to my famns who stick by me I'm a clean athlete and gonna be around a long time thank you all stay blessed.'
Saunders is due to defend his WBO world middleweight belt against Andrade in Boston on October 20.
There’s nothing more difinitive than an f’ng drug test. It tells you exactly what’s in someone’s body. What makes you boneheads think that every test is wrong. Just a bunch of idiotic fans. How much easier would camp be with a stimulant? Duhhhh
Both the BBBofC and UKAD state Saunders' innocence. They've written a letter to VADA.
UKAD follows the WADA code, but VADA's rules differ.
Why argue if you don't even make the effort to ascertain all the facts relating to a situation?
Listen, if BJS’s fight on the 20th goes on as planned then you finally had a point in 2 years. If he’s stripped and Andrade is fighting your Cousin for the belt then you need to kiss my hairy ballbag and stop cutting and pasting endless boring shit instead of replying like a normal f’ng person. Deal?
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 29 Sep 2018, 18:11
The boxing drug testing business is corrupt and unfair in so many ways. Drug pushers, drug testers - sisters under the skin!dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 04:06 I watched the video posted by Ilya and yeah, it is weird that A side fighters almost never get caught, probably >90% are the B side fighters.
But this video featured Andrzej Wawrzyk who was caught on peds for the first time in his career before the Wilder fight. He doesnt look like a ped user because he is not. He took peds accidentally in contaminated supplements. His supplements were tested in National Institute of Drugs in Poland and the Institute proved that his supplements contain banned substances. What i mean is that there was no VADA conspiracy, at least not in this case.
Poor Andrzej was so devastated after this, he decided to end his career. Also his trainer Fiodor Lapin follows a rule if his fighter gets caught, doesnt matter he took peds accidentally or not, he ends to work with a fighter forever. Wawrzyk is a nice funny guy, smart as well, good to see him doing nice in business.
Re: Saunders failed Vada test
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 14:05