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Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 19:38
by ironbeard
fox wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 19:27 No one falls the way he did from a dive. He stiffened, his eyes were gone. Mightn’t have looked like much but he was ratshit.
Mundine is a good actor. Looked like a pure dive to me.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 20:20
by Redback Rasta
Brute wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:28
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 17:40 Many people who have seen a lot of boxing thought Mundine had a good chance of beating Horn. But Horn simply obliterated him.

Mundine has been humble in defeat (so far) and so should his supporters be.
By "many people" you don't mean that Lutton clown from the Herald, do you? He could not pick his bum, let alone the winner of a fight.
Plenty of supposedly learned boxing people predicted Mundine would either win or present Horn a big challenge.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 20:23
by Redback Rasta
jamamb wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:40
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 17:40 Many people who have seen a lot of boxing thought Mundine had a good chance of beating Horn. But Horn simply obliterated him.

Mundine has been humble in defeat (so far) and so should his supporters be.
lol you could get mundne as a 10-1 underdog
Great answer. Just a pity it had no relevance to what you quoted.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 20:36
by nmhz
Is it true this was a $60 PPV fight?

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 20:38
by jamamb
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:23
jamamb wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:40
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 17:40 Many people who have seen a lot of boxing thought Mundine had a good chance of beating Horn. But Horn simply obliterated him.

Mundine has been humble in defeat (so far) and so should his supporters be.
lol you could get mundne as a 10-1 underdog
Great answer. Just a pity it had no relevance to what you quoted.

just giving some perspective to the laughable talking up like all sorts were picking mun and like this was some split opinion fight, nah, he was a big underdog, any picks for him were very fringe small opinion

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 21:28
by Brute
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:20
Brute wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:28
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 17:40 Many people who have seen a lot of boxing thought Mundine had a good chance of beating Horn. But Horn simply obliterated him.

Mundine has been humble in defeat (so far) and so should his supporters be.
By "many people" you don't mean that Lutton clown from the Herald, do you? He could not pick his bum, let alone the winner of a fight.
Plenty of supposedly learned boxing people predicted Mundine would either win or present Horn a big challenge.
Accent on "supposedly." Mundine's recent form was bad coming into the fight.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 21:32
by fox
ironbeard wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 19:38
fox wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 19:27 No one falls the way he did from a dive. He stiffened, his eyes were gone. Mightn’t have looked like much but he was ratshit.
Mundine is a good actor. Looked like a pure dive to me.
Talk to Phil Austin. He was the referee and will tell you he was gone.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 21:43
by Redback Rasta
jamamb wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:38
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:23
jamamb wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:40

lol you could get mundne as a 10-1 underdog
Great answer. Just a pity it had no relevance to what you quoted.

just giving some perspective to the laughable talking up like all sorts were picking mun and like this was some split opinion fight, nah, he was a big underdog, any picks for him were very fringe small opinion
That's what politicians do, respond to something with an irrelevant statement instead of a relevant answer.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 21:44
by Redback Rasta
Brute wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:28
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:20
Brute wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 18:28
By "many people" you don't mean that Lutton clown from the Herald, do you? He could not pick his bum, let alone the winner of a fight.
Plenty of supposedly learned boxing people predicted Mundine would either win or present Horn a big challenge.
Accent on "supposedly." Mundine's recent form was bad coming into the fight.
Then there were those claiming Mundine had 'turned the clock back' against Tommy Browne.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 30 Nov 2018, 21:47
by Redback Rasta
ironbeard wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 19:38
fox wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 19:27 No one falls the way he did from a dive. He stiffened, his eyes were gone. Mightn’t have looked like much but he was ratshit.
Mundine is a good actor. Looked like a pure dive to me.
I think he had had enough. If he had of managed to get up Horn would have finished him again soon enough. There was still a minute and a half left in the round and one way or another Mundine was not going to be around to hear that bell.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 01:13
by Ricky
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:47
ironbeard wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 19:38
fox wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 19:27 No one falls the way he did from a dive. He stiffened, his eyes were gone. Mightn’t have looked like much but he was ratshit.
Mundine is a good actor. Looked like a pure dive to me.
I think he had had enough. If he had of managed to get up Horn would have finished him again soon enough. There was still a minute and a half left in the round and one way or another Mundine was not going to be around to hear that bell.
Had enough!? It was round 1 :lol:

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 01:17
by Redback Rasta
RKY wrote: 01 Dec 2018, 01:13
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:47
ironbeard wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 19:38
Mundine is a good actor. Looked like a pure dive to me.
I think he had had enough. If he had of managed to get up Horn would have finished him again soon enough. There was still a minute and a half left in the round and one way or another Mundine was not going to be around to hear that bell.
Had enough!? It was round 1 :lol:
It doesn't take long to get beat up.when you are firing nothing back. A minute and a half can be an eternity and for Mundine it was.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 01:30
by Beltane
A certain film had a famous quote: "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist."

In the case of Mundine it can be re-arranged to read:

"The greatest trick Mundine ever pulled was before his final bout in convincing the paying public that his fighting ability still existed."

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 01:31
by Brute
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:44
Brute wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:28
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:20

Plenty of supposedly learned boxing people predicted Mundine would either win or present Horn a big challenge.
Accent on "supposedly." Mundine's recent form was bad coming into the fight.
Then there were those claiming Mundine had 'turned the clock back' against Tommy Browne.
Tommy has still not got over his brother's death.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 01:34
by Brute
lazboy wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 09:11 I’m not sure now. At the time I saw a jolt in the head and neck but I had a few wines, now I’m sobering up and on my phone it looks pretty minimal. It’s also from a double left hook, you’d think the second left wouldn’t be that strong.
The right hand body punch before it was a good one.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 03:16
by ninetypercent
Well the fight was pretty crap but then I thought it would be. I don't think to many people could still be competitive in any top athletic sport at 43. We all know it but its easy to get sucked in by the pre fight bullshit. Anyway I backed Horn and now put the winnings on Fury and my money back in my pocket so all good.

The reason I am not shitty about paying for the show is because I found it very interesting watching Liam Wilson. Not saying he is going to be a world champion but at this stage he seems a very competent and talented fighter. I don't remember who his trainer is but if he is managed properly and doesn't spend the next three years fighting Asian taxi drivers he could have a really interesting career.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 18:16
by jamamb
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:43
jamamb wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:38
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:23

Great answer. Just a pity it had no relevance to what you quoted.

just giving some perspective to the laughable talking up like all sorts were picking mun and like this was some split opinion fight, nah, he was a big underdog, any picks for him were very fringe small opinion
That's what politicians do, respond to something with an irrelevant statement instead of a relevant answer.
i would say whats more in the style of dishonesty and distortion is talking up a shot 43 year old whose a 10-1 underdog as though it was a really competively matched fight with split opinion

no mate, mundine was a big underdog and anyone going for him was part of tiny minority, you obviously had some slant or bias that made you want to misrepresent things

laughable end to a big mismatch with an easy to pick winner

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 19:09
by Redback Rasta
jamamb wrote: 01 Dec 2018, 18:16
Redback Rasta wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 21:43
jamamb wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:38


just giving some perspective to the laughable talking up like all sorts were picking mun and like this was some split opinion fight, nah, he was a big underdog, any picks for him were very fringe small opinion
That's what politicians do, respond to something with an irrelevant statement instead of a relevant answer.
i would say whats more in the style of dishonesty and distortion is talking up a shot 43 year old whose a 10-1 underdog as though it was a really competively matched fight with split opinion

no mate, mundine was a big underdog and anyone going for him was part of tiny minority, you obviously had some slant or bias that made you want to misrepresent things

laughable end to a big mismatch with an easy to pick winner
And like a politician you are continuing with irrelevant statements instead of a relevant answer to the quote you posted :lol:

Keep it irrelevant and I will not be wasting my time responding to you :doh:

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 01 Dec 2018, 23:47
by australiahere
horn vs rocky jerkic ??

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 08:04
by ninetypercent
After watching Jarrett Hurd today I reckon Horn could possibly win that one. Saw Glen Rushton was talking about Canello. Either he is stupid or he hates Jeff Horn. Or perhaps they have just learnt Mundine's trick of name dropping mega stars you never really should fight.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 02:44
by Grant
nmhz wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:36 Is it true this was a $60 PPV fight?
I paid and we got a pretty good night of boxing
Can't believe anyone thought Kye MacKenzie was world class, the sheer joy on the face of Francis Chua was worth the money right there.
Liam Wilson is going to be a good one I think, and Youssef Dib looked good too.
I was critical of the undercard and am happy to take it all back.
As for the main event I was glad that I saw Mundine's last fight, as for Jeff we didn't really see much as to whether he can get in against the the likes of Crawford again. But I am sure he will go in against some good opponents but as for the elite.. he needs some real hand speed. Just my opinion.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 17:41
by Like a Boss
Grant wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 02:44
nmhz wrote: 30 Nov 2018, 20:36 Is it true this was a $60 PPV fight?
I paid and we got a pretty good night of boxing
Can't believe anyone thought Kye MacKenzie was world class, the sheer joy on the face of Francis Chua was worth the money right there.
Liam Wilson is going to be a good one I think, and Youssef Dib looked good too.
I was critical of the undercard and am happy to take it all back.
As for the main event I was glad that I saw Mundine's last fight, as for Jeff we didn't really see much as to whether he can get in against the the likes of Crawford again. But I am sure he will go in against some good opponents but as for the elite.. he needs some real hand speed. Just my opinion.
I was a little bit disappointed with Liam Wilson's performance TBH but I'm glad he eked out the win. I know it was only his 3rd pro fight. But all up he has had over 130 fights and surely he has fought a few southpaws along the way? Looking at how he went about Brent Rice I have to wonder.

Anyway he finished the stronger and deserved the win, and I will watch his progress with interest.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 20:01
by lazboy
Horn needs to settle down ffs. He’s just posted about being a no.3 middleweight behind Canelo and golovkin as if he believes that ranking is accurate. Too much self belief is a dangerous thing.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 20:23
by Like a Boss
lazboy wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 20:01 Horn needs to settle down ffs. He’s just posted about being a no.3 middleweight behind Canelo and golovkin as if he believes that ranking is accurate. Too much self belief is a dangerous thing.
Horn has always had lots of self belief. You don't get as far as he has without it. But what we are seeing more recently is Glenn Rushton and Horn demonstrating their savvy by feeding the media the sort of stuff they will print.

Re: mundine vs horn / nov 30th

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 20:35
by lazboy
Like a Boss wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 20:23
lazboy wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 20:01 Horn needs to settle down ffs. He’s just posted about being a no.3 middleweight behind Canelo and golovkin as if he believes that ranking is accurate. Too much self belief is a dangerous thing.
Horn has always had lots of self belief. You don't get as far as he has without it. But what we are seeing more recently is Glenn Rushton and Horn demonstrating their savvy by feeding the media the sort of stuff they will print.
They should then be prepared for the backlash.