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Stuarty wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:02

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 17:54

Stuarty wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 17:52

Yeah they've always said they want all the belts. Personally I'd rather see Fury v AJ but I think it'll be Wilder v Fury next summer. I can't see AJ fighting either of them in April.

I like the idea of AJ getting iced out of a fight with either two. Hearn believes he has the power and I'm sick of Hearn.

Yeah I'm the same mate

I don't think Hearn had any plans of fighting either next anyway right enough....

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:16 Rematch has been ordered .

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:18

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:16 Rematch has been ordered .

Officially?

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:18

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:16 Rematch has been ordered .

Officially?

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:16 Rematch has been ordered .

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:22

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:16 Rematch has been ordered .

No, it’s been approved not ordered. They will allow Wilder a second voluntary defence without stripping him for not boxing Breazeale but he doesn’t have to

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:24

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:22

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:16 Rematch has been ordered .

No, it’s been approved not ordered. They will allow Wilder a second voluntary defence without stripping him for not boxing Breazeale but he doesn’t have to

Direct rematch, which puts the mandatory on hold.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:22

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:16 Rematch has been ordered .

No, it’s been approved not ordered. They will allow Wilder a second voluntary defence without stripping him for not boxing Breazeale but he doesn’t have to

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:24

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:22

No, it’s been approved not ordered. They will allow Wilder a second voluntary defence without stripping him for not boxing Breazeale but he doesn’t have to

Direct rematch, which puts the mandatory on hold.

Wilder would lose all credibility if he turns it down - unless of course he takes AJ...

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:32

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:24

Direct rematch, which puts the mandatory on hold.

Wilder would lose all credibility if he turns it down - unless of course he takes AJ...

This fight will happen. AJ will just have to watch and wait for his real payday.

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:32

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:24

Direct rematch, which puts the mandatory on hold.

Wilder would lose all credibility if he turns it down - unless of course he takes AJ...

This fight will happen. AJ will just have to watch and wait for his real payday.

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:32

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:25

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:24

Direct rematch, which puts the mandatory on hold.

Wilder would lose all credibility if he turns it down - unless of course he takes AJ...

This fight will happen. AJ will just have to watch and wait for his real payday.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:56

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:32

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:25

Wilder would lose all credibility if he turns it down - unless of course he takes AJ...

This fight will happen. AJ will just have to watch and wait for his real payday.

The money that can be generated is finite. A contest with Fury or Wilder will generate good money but not so much more than any recent Joshua fight to be called ‘a real payday’ as if it’s something unprecedented

ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 19:00

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:56

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:32
This fight will happen. AJ will just have to watch and wait for his real payday.

The money that can be generated is finite. A contest with Fury or Wilder will generate good money but not so much more than any recent Joshua fight to be called ‘a real payday’ as if it’s something unprecedented

Definitely not unprecedented but it will be plenty large.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:58

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:32

skanksta wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 18:25

Wilder would lose all credibility if he turns it down - unless of course he takes AJ...

This fight will happen. AJ will just have to watch and wait for his real payday.

I think Joshua has likely already made as much if not more than both Wilder and Fury as is.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:39 Looking like The WBC have ordered an imidiate rematch, guessing both fighters are going to want a rest, especially Fury, guessing the fight will be next summer now, which kind of freezes Hearn and AJ out, there isn't a fight out there for AJ as big as Wilder V Fury. Maybe he'll fight the winner end of next year

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:42

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:39 Looking like The WBC have ordered an imidiate rematch, guessing both fighters are going to want a rest, especially Fury, guessing the fight will be next summer now, which kind of freezes Hearn and AJ out, there isn't a fight out there for AJ as big as Wilder V Fury. Maybe he'll fight the winner end of next year

Fury was saying he wants the rematch at Old Trafford next summer. Be handy for you if that comes off

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:53

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:42

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:39 Looking like The WBC have ordered an imidiate rematch, guessing both fighters are going to want a rest, especially Fury, guessing the fight will be next summer now, which kind of freezes Hearn and AJ out, there isn't a fight out there for AJ as big as Wilder V Fury. Maybe he'll fight the winner end of next year

Fury was saying he wants the rematch at Old Trafford next summer. Be handy for you if that comes off

Yeah I'd definitely be going if it's anywhere in the uk, just watched to fight again, think Fury won by a country mile, but the next fight will be better, both guys will be improved.

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:59

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:53

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:42

Fury was saying he wants the rematch at Old Trafford next summer. Be handy for you if that comes off

Yeah I'd definitely be going if it's anywhere in the uk, just watched to fight again, think Fury won by a country mile, but the next fight will be better, both guys will be improved.

Few of my mates on the group chat were saying the same this morning bud. I'd well be up for going if we could get tickets.

I rewatched the fight again last night and how anyone can see anything other than a Fury win is beyond me. That prick that had it for Wilder would've had Deontay winning even without the knockdowns ffs! That's scandalous!

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 10:00

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:59

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:53

Yeah I'd definitely be going if it's anywhere in the uk, just watched to fight again, think Fury won by a country mile, but the next fight will be better, both guys will be improved.

Few of my mates on the group chat were saying the same this morning bud. I'd well be up for going if we could get tickets.

I rewatched the fight again last night and how anyone can see anything other than a Fury win is beyond me. That prick that had it for Wilder would've had Deontay winning even without the knockdowns ffs! That's scandalous!

I, bet he's having a nice xmas this year

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 10:02

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 10:00

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:59

Few of my mates on the group chat were saying the same this morning bud. I'd well be up for going if we could get tickets.

I rewatched the fight again last night and how anyone can see anything other than a Fury win is beyond me. That prick that had it for Wilder would've had Deontay winning even without the knockdowns ffs! That's scandalous!

I, bet he's having a nice xmas this year

Aye that pricks pockets would've been bulging on the way out the Staples Centre last week

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 10:02

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 10:00

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 09:59

Few of my mates on the group chat were saying the same this morning bud. I'd well be up for going if we could get tickets.

I rewatched the fight again last night and how anyone can see anything other than a Fury win is beyond me. That prick that had it for Wilder would've had Deontay winning even without the knockdowns ffs! That's scandalous!

I, bet he's having a nice xmas this year

Aye that pricks pockets would've been bulging on the way out the Staples Centre last week

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 10:20

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 10:02

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 10:00

I, bet he's having a nice xmas this year

Aye that pricks pockets would've been bulging on the way out the Staples Centre last week

To bring this pity party back to reality; if the KDs had not happened it would have depended on who the Mexican judge scored those two rounds for that would have determined whether his card would have been for Wilder, Fury, or a draw.

1. 115-113 Wilder = if the KDs did not happen and he scored both rounds for Wilder.

2. 114-114 Draw = if the KDs did not happen and he split those rounds between them.

3. 115-113 Fury = if the KDs did not happen and he scored both rounds for Fury.

4. If the KDs had not happened, how the Mexican judge scored the fight would not have mattered. It would have been at minimum a split decision for Fury and quite possibly a UD.

Conclusion = the Mexican judge’s card was entirely legitimate. There was no robbery.

Resume pathetic pity party.