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Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 02 Jan 2019, 20:12
by Skalamanga
dagilechia wrote: ↑28 Dec 2018, 14:01
wrestling/boxing the most popular sport in Oman?
i have never heard of any wrestler/boxer from Oman.
probably cause they are useless at boxing/fighting. Can't get to any decent level, so you never hear of them.
the middle east is really big on football for example, yet they are terrible at football.
Here in the UK in many, many boxing clubs- pakistanis/south asians are the majority, yet it's extremely rare for a South Asian to get to any decent level in boxing.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 02 Jan 2019, 22:57
by tiny_acres
dagilechia wrote: ↑28 Dec 2018, 14:01
this map is unbelievably wrong... basketball more popular than football in Spain, Italy, Argentina and France
wrestling/boxing the most popular sport in Oman?
i have never heard of any wrestler/boxer from Oman. are martial arts really that popular in Slovenia?? i doubt that it's more popular there than Football, Ski Jumping or even Basketball and maybe Handball.
I had to pull up a map to know where Oman was.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 03 Jan 2019, 17:19
by caldo2025
I don’t even think it’s a question honestly. Mexico is the country that revolves around its Boxers. I could be wrong but if I were a prominent boxer and I’d have the choice, I’d be Mexican. They are hero’s over there with careers that would remain unknown here in the states with the competition for fan attention that exists. Boxing is a cottage industry here in America.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 03 Jan 2019, 17:21
by oogiebe
caldo2025 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019, 17:19
I don’t even think it’s a question honestly. Mexico is the country that revolves around its Boxers. I could be wrong but if I were a prominent boxer and I’d have the choice, I’d be Mexican. They are hero’s over there with careers that would remain unknown here in the states with the competition for fan attention that exists. Boxing is a cottage industry here in America.
who are you and what did you do with caldo2025??
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 03 Jan 2019, 17:25
by caldo2025
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019, 17:21
caldo2025 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019, 17:19
I don’t even think it’s a question honestly. Mexico is the country that revolves around its Boxers. I could be wrong but if I were a prominent boxer and I’d have the choice, I’d be Mexican. They are hero’s over there with careers that would remain unknown here in the states with the competition for fan attention that exists. Boxing is a cottage industry here in America.
who are you and what did you do with caldo2025??
I have a lot of “pretend hate” that I like to unload on occasion to entertain me. Nothing I post is ever serious feelings. Lol. All for the laughs even if I’m the only one laughing. And that happens A LOT I might add.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 13:57
by ValMar
caldo2025 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019, 17:25
oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019, 17:21
caldo2025 wrote: ↑03 Jan 2019, 17:19
I don’t even think it’s a question honestly. Mexico is the country that revolves around its Boxers. I could be wrong but if I were a prominent boxer and I’d have the choice, I’d be Mexican. They are hero’s over there with careers that would remain unknown here in the states with the competition for fan attention that exists. Boxing is a cottage industry here in America.
who are you and what did you do with caldo2025??
I have a lot of “pretend hate” that I like to unload on occasion to entertain me. Nothing I post is ever serious feelings. Lol. All for the laughs even if I’m the only one laughing. And that happens A LOT I might add.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 14:57
by chuck9788
I was recently in Central America (Belize and Honduras). The local population (both young and old) knew next to nothing when it came to boxing. I asked many people.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 14:59
by oogiebe
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 14:57
I was recently in Central America (Belize and Honduras). The local population (both young and old) knew next to nothing when it came to boxing. I asked many people.
I'm surprised at that.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 15:04
by chuck9788
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 14:59
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 14:57
I was recently in Central America (Belize and Honduras). The local population (both young and old) knew next to nothing when it came to boxing. I asked many people.
I'm surprised at that.
They are soccer (excuse me) football addicts.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 15:06
by dagilechia
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 14:57
I was recently in Central America (Belize and Honduras). The local population (both young and old) knew next to nothing when it came to boxing. I asked many people.
yeah those are not boxing nations, i guess boxing is much more popular in Nicaragua
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 15:22
by chuck9788
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:06
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 14:57
I was recently in Central America (Belize and Honduras). The local population (both young and old) knew next to nothing when it came to boxing. I asked many people.
yeah those are not boxing nations, i guess boxing is much more popular in Nicaragua
Yes, and Panama. Roberto Duran is a revered in that nation.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 15:24
by oogiebe
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:22
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:06
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 14:57
I was recently in Central America (Belize and Honduras). The local population (both young and old) knew next to nothing when it came to boxing. I asked many people.
yeah those are not boxing nations, i guess boxing is much more popular in Nicaragua
Yes, and Panama. Roberto Duran is a revered in that nation.
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 15:27
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:24
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:22
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:06
yeah those are not boxing nations, i guess boxing is much more popular in Nicaragua
Yes, and Panama. Roberto Duran is a revered in that nation.
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 15:34
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:24
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:22
Yes, and Panama. Roberto Duran is a revered in that nation.
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Perhaps because they are most stable (comparatively speaking) for the longest.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 19:15
by Skalamanga
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:24
chuck9788 wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:22
Yes, and Panama. Roberto Duran is a revered in that nation.
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Yet Argentina are not good at boxing.
Yet
Venezuala has 503 current active boxers
Colombia has 244 current active boxers
Brazil has 242 current active boxers
yet they hardly have anyone of note.
Ukraine has 193 current active boxers and loads of top boxers
Belarus has 61 current active boxers and 2 current world champions
Some nations are not good at boxing , others are good at boxing. It's a simple as that.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 19:16
by oogiebe
Skalamanga wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 19:15
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:24
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Yet Argentina are not good at boxing.
Yet
Venezuala has 503 current active boxers
Colombia has 244 current active boxers
Brazil has 242 current active boxers
yet they hardly have anyone of note.
Ukraine has 193 current active boxers and loads of top boxers
Belarus has 61 current active boxers and 2 current world champions
Some nations are not good at boxing , others are good at boxing. It's a simple as that.
I imagine it's in relation to its amateur programs.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 19:28
by dagilechia
Skalamanga wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 19:15
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:24
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Yet Argentina are not good at boxing.
Yet
Venezuala has 503 current active boxers
Colombia has 244 current active boxers
Brazil has 242 current active boxers
yet they hardly have anyone of note.
Ukraine has 193 current active boxers and loads of top boxers
Belarus has 61 current active boxers and 2 current world champions
Some nations are not good at boxing , others are good at boxing. It's a simple as that.
To be fair Argentina had some very good/good fighters like Monzon, Martinez, Narvaez, Maidana, Matthysse, Baldomir among others
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 06 Jan 2019, 20:02
by oogiebe
Argentina has a rich history in professional boxing, to that there is no doubt!
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:22
by ValMar
Skalamanga wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 19:15
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
oogiebe wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:24
In Argentina it's huge. Always has been. I have a lot of relatives there and they are rabid fans.
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Yet Argentina are not good at boxing.
Yet
Venezuala has 503 current active boxers
Colombia has 244 current active boxers
Brazil has 242 current active boxers
yet they hardly have anyone of note.
Ukraine has 193 current active boxers and loads of top boxers
Belarus has 61 current active boxers and 2 current world champions
Some nations are not good at boxing , others are good at boxing. It's a simple as that.
Some
persons are not good at boxing, others are good at boxing.
Nations have nothing to do with this problem.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:30
by dagilechia
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:22
Skalamanga wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 19:15
dagilechia wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 15:27
Argentina i guess is the only boxing nation in South America
Yet Argentina are not good at boxing.
Yet
Venezuala has 503 current active boxers
Colombia has 244 current active boxers
Brazil has 242 current active boxers
yet they hardly have anyone of note.
Ukraine has 193 current active boxers and loads of top boxers
Belarus has 61 current active boxers and 2 current world champions
Some nations are not good at boxing , others are good at boxing. It's a simple as that.
Some
persons are not good at boxing, others are good at boxing.
Nations have nothing to do with this problem.
it somehow does, if not with nations then at least with states. Ukraine and some other post soviet countries have good boxers and success at olympics for a reason.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:39
by ValMar
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:30
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:22
Skalamanga wrote: ↑06 Jan 2019, 19:15
Yet Argentina are not good at boxing.
Yet
Venezuala has 503 current active boxers
Colombia has 244 current active boxers
Brazil has 242 current active boxers
yet they hardly have anyone of note.
Ukraine has 193 current active boxers and loads of top boxers
Belarus has 61 current active boxers and 2 current world champions
Some nations are not good at boxing , others are good at boxing. It's a simple as that.
Some
persons are not good at boxing, others are good at boxing.
Nations have nothing to do with this problem.
it somehow does, if not with nations then at least with states. Ukraine and some other post soviet countries have good boxers and success at olympics for a reason.
Tradition is a decisive factor. It is very simple, Ukraina (Russia, Poland, Mexico, etc....) has a very strong boxing tradition.
India (Portugal, Denmark, Honduras, etc.......) has not this kind of tradition. The end of story...............
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:45
by dagilechia
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:39
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:30
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:22
Some
persons are not good at boxing, others are good at boxing.
Nations have nothing to do with this problem.
it somehow does, if not with nations then at least with states. Ukraine and some other post soviet countries have good boxers and success at olympics for a reason.
Tradition is a decisive factor. It is very simple, Ukraina (Russia, Poland, Mexico, etc....) has a very strong boxing tradition.
India (Portugal, Denmark, Honduras, etc.......) has not this kind of tradition. The end of story...............
and that this due to state's sports politics. amateur boxing was big in Eastern Bloc, and meaningless in Portugal, Scandinavia etc, that is why some countries have boxing tradition and others don't. Hungary, Bulgaria or Romania had a lot of amateur success before the 1989, and now they're very poor at boxing due to political, system changes.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:46
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:45
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:39
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:30
it somehow does, if not with nations then at least with states. Ukraine and some other post soviet countries have good boxers and success at olympics for a reason.
Tradition is a decisive factor. It is very simple, Ukraina (Russia, Poland, Mexico, etc....) has a very strong boxing tradition.
India (Portugal, Denmark, Honduras, etc.......) has not this kind of tradition. The end of story...............
and that this due to state's sports politics. amateur boxing was big in Eastern Bloc, and meaningless in Portugal, Scandinavia etc, that is why some countries have boxing tradition and others don't. Hungary, Bulgaria or Romania had a lot of amateur success before the 1989, and now they're very poor at boxing due to political, system changes.
Dagilechia you beat me to the punch regarding Gov't funded Amateur programs.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 11:50
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:46
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:45
ValMar wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:39
Tradition is a decisive factor. It is very simple, Ukraina (Russia, Poland, Mexico, etc....) has a very strong boxing tradition.
India (Portugal, Denmark, Honduras, etc.......) has not this kind of tradition. The end of story...............
and that this due to state's sports politics. amateur boxing was big in Eastern Bloc, and meaningless in Portugal, Scandinavia etc, that is why some countries have boxing tradition and others don't. Hungary, Bulgaria or Romania had a lot of amateur success before the 1989, and now they're very poor at boxing due to political, system changes.
Dagilechia you beat me to the punch regarding Gov't funded Amateur programs.
Re: Popularity of boxing in world
Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 12:38
by ValMar
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:50
oogiebe wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:46
dagilechia wrote: ↑07 Jan 2019, 11:45
and that this due to state's sports politics. amateur boxing was big in Eastern Bloc, and meaningless in Portugal, Scandinavia etc, that is why some countries have boxing tradition and others don't. Hungary, Bulgaria or Romania had a lot of amateur success before the 1989, and now they're very poor at boxing due to political, system changes.
Dagilechia you beat me to the punch regarding Gov't funded Amateur programs.
I don't want to be misunderstood, I agree with both of you.
