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jamamb wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 16:33 i had never seen anyone tout bogdan dinu

This forum is full of people that don't watch boxing but list off BoxRec achievements. It's fine. I hardly respect anyone's opinion here.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 17:10

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 16:33 i had never seen anyone tout bogdan dinu

This forum is full of people that don't watch boxing but list off BoxRec achievements. It's fine. I hardly respect anyone's opinion here.

A little full of yerself, are ya mex?

No chance

Both are pretty much guaranteed a joshua fight sometime in 2019 or 2020. The are both going to be matched carefully in the meantime. Id guess usyk v takam for his first hw fight

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 17:10

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 16:33 i had never seen anyone tout bogdan dinu

This forum is full of people that don't watch boxing but list off BoxRec achievements. It's fine. I hardly respect anyone's opinion here.

You just sleep well tonight knowing everyone considers your opinion gospel.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 19:39

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 17:10

jamamb wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 16:33 i had never seen anyone tout bogdan dinu

This forum is full of people that don't watch boxing but list off BoxRec achievements. It's fine. I hardly respect anyone's opinion here.

You just sleep well tonight knowing everyone considers your opinion gospel.

My question is why does he bother posting here at all.

I guess because he once was wrong that dinu was one to watch.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 19:46 I guess because he once was wrong that dinu was one to watch.

A small miss, no doubt...

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 19:47

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 19:46 I guess because he once was wrong that dinu was one to watch.

A small miss, no doubt...

It's Christmas, all is forgiven

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 14:15

walter5 wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 13:03 There is a zero percent chance that the Miller team take a fight with Usyk. There's literally no upside for them.

There was no upside for them fighting Dinu, but they took that fight anyways. Dinu was a touted prospect for years, and he looked the goods in a lot of his fights. It was a huge wager to fight that man. It didn't help Miller either as he was outboxed before the stoppage.

There was a ton of upside when they initially negotiated the Dinu fight. The Dinu fight was made with the expectation that Charr was going to be stripped by the WBA and that it would have been for the WBA's Regular Championship. I believe Matchroom even made advertisements alluding to this being a title fight before the Charr team filed an appeal that is still ongoing. I think it was only officially reported that the fight would not be for the WBA title on November 14th, 3 days before Miller was set to fight Dinu. You really think Miller was going to waste an entire camp and another payday over a half million dollars and pull out of a fight he's a huge favorite in? Knowing the WBA situation was still going to be a huge mess and nothing else scheduled the only wager Miller would have been making is if he decided to not fight Dinu. I love when people that have absolutely no idea what's going on make assumptions.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Dec 2018, 15:11 I think it would play out like David Tua Vs Evander Holyfield.

That's a weird comparison for a few reasons.
-Tua never fought Holyfield. So it's like... you're comparing this match-up to a different fight that we haven't seen play out. Even if it were similar, what result is it similar to?
-Holyfield was better than Usyk. Holyfield is one of the top heavyweights of all-time, and a roughly #1 heavyweight at certain points in time. Usyk is good, and might be divisional top 10 as soon as he moves-up, but he hasn't yet earned the level of heavyweight clout that Holyfield had.
-Miller is like a million pounds heavier than Tua. Isn't there a 6' 4", 315-pound, top 10 heavyweight whom you could use as a Miller analogue? There probably isn't, because even prime Shannon Briggs and Luis Ortiz were like 70 pounds lighter than Miller.

Uk mirror/boxing either reads this forum or have also heard this whisper.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 14:48

marvelous marv wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 14:23 Usyk is 6'3 and Miller is 6'4 so the size disparity is not as big as you would think. But Usyk will have massive advantages in speed and mobility. I would have to favor Usyk.

They also have identical reach.

They also weigh the same. If you exclude Miller's legs.

candyslim wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 07:24

KiwiRider wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 14:48

marvelous marv wrote: ↑25 Dec 2018, 14:23 Usyk is 6'3 and Miller is 6'4 so the size disparity is not as big as you would think. But Usyk will have massive advantages in speed and mobility. I would have to favor Usyk.

They also have identical reach.

They also weigh the same. If you exclude Miller's legs.

LMFAO!

Why is everyone so high on Usyk? He seems fairly average to me, JUST workmanlike with not overly impressive physical talents... really, just an honest question. What gives? Mentioning him in the same breath as Holyfield or Qawi seems laughable.... I’d have picked past his prime, juiced up Guillermo Jones to school him. That seems a more fitting comparison.

PUGLET wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 15:47 Why is everyone so high on Usyk? He seems fairly average to me, JUST workmanlike with not overly impressive physical talents... really, just an honest question. What gives? Mentioning him in the same breath as Holyfield or Qawi seems laughable.... I’d have picked past his prime, juiced up Guillermo Jones to school him. That seems a more fitting comparison.

He's a terrific and complete fighter. I have a great appreciation for that type of fighter who fights all the top guys in his division. whether or not he can make the move up to HW is pure speculation until we see him v. a truly big man. And not the six year old vid of Usyk v. Joyce.

TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑24 Dec 2018, 00:35

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑24 Dec 2018, 00:28 Usyk would be an idiot if he starts his HW career with Miller.

I agree, he’ll outweigh him by about 75 pounds. He’s more than ready for a top 15 heavyweight but Jarrell has so much weight behind him.

I’d advise the Parker fight tbh. Be a great co-main on a PPV.

U guys are crazy. It’s a perfect first fight in the H.W. division for Usyk. He’ll easily outpunch Miller 10-2 and most likely win by KO. Miller is a sitting duck and very limited in boxing skills. With this kind of win, Usyk’s credibility at this weight will jump up to top 5 quickly and put him immediately In the conversations for a title fight. Had Usyk knocked out a few tomatoe cans first it may take him 2 years to be put in a title shot position.

No one really thinks Big Baby is anything but a novelty act right? I mean, come on. The guy hasn’t been boxing for long and would get demolished by AJ, Wilder, Fury, Whyte and even Chisora. There’s no way Miller can beat any of these real heavyweight boxers. But Miller and his handlers would be crazy to take this fight with Usyk. Absolutely nothing to gain.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 16:09

TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑24 Dec 2018, 00:35

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑24 Dec 2018, 00:28 Usyk would be an idiot if he starts his HW career with Miller.

I agree, he’ll outweigh him by about 75 pounds. He’s more than ready for a top 15 heavyweight but Jarrell has so much weight behind him.

I’d advise the Parker fight tbh. Be a great co-main on a PPV.

U guys are crazy. It’s a perfect first fight in the H.W. division for Usyk. He’ll easily outpunch Miller 10-2 and most likely win by KO. Miller is a sitting duck and very limited in boxing skills. With this kind of win, Usyk’s credibility at this weight will jump up to top 5 quickly and put him immediately In the conversations for a title fight. Had Usyk knocked out a few tomatoe cans first it may take him 2 years to be put in a title shot position.

No one really thinks Big Baby is anything but a novelty act right? I mean, come on. The guy hasn’t been boxing for long and would get demolished by AJ, Wilder, Fury, Whyte and even Chisora. There’s no way Miller can beat any of these real heavyweight boxers. But Miller and his handlers would be crazy to take this fight with Usyk. Absolutely nothing to gain.

I wouldn't say they are crazy. Being in the ring with a 300 pounder for his first foray is silly, given we are unsure how he'll perform against a much bigger man and what issues may arise. Parker is perfect, but I doubt that would ever happen. Breazeale would be interesting, but doubt Breazeale would risk it. Tough call.

Chisora has nothing to lose and will be up for Usyk.

Good call. A fight against a genuine Heavyweight but one that shouldn't be too taxing for someone of Usyk's quality. Decent first excursion at the higher weight.

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 16:16

caldo2025 wrote: ↑26 Dec 2018, 16:09

TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑24 Dec 2018, 00:35

I agree, he’ll outweigh him by about 75 pounds. He’s more than ready for a top 15 heavyweight but Jarrell has so much weight behind him.

I’d advise the Parker fight tbh. Be a great co-main on a PPV.

U guys are crazy. It’s a perfect first fight in the H.W. division for Usyk. He’ll easily outpunch Miller 10-2 and most likely win by KO. Miller is a sitting duck and very limited in boxing skills. With this kind of win, Usyk’s credibility at this weight will jump up to top 5 quickly and put him immediately In the conversations for a title fight. Had Usyk knocked out a few tomatoe cans first it may take him 2 years to be put in a title shot position.

No one really thinks Big Baby is anything but a novelty act right? I mean, come on. The guy hasn’t been boxing for long and would get demolished by AJ, Wilder, Fury, Whyte and even Chisora. There’s no way Miller can beat any of these real heavyweight boxers. But Miller and his handlers would be crazy to take this fight with Usyk. Absolutely nothing to gain.

I wouldn't say they are crazy. Being in the ring with a 300 pounder for his first foray is silly, given we are unsure how he'll perform against a much bigger man and what issues may arise. Parker is perfect, but I doubt that would ever happen. Breazeale would be interesting, but doubt Breazeale would risk it. Tough call.

That's the thing, he's fought large guys before. I'd consider Parker the much more risky fight. Breazeale is pretty crappy, but I've no doubt he'd fight anyone.