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Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:32
by jamamb
oogiebe wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:16
dagilechia wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:13 after 6 votes:

1. Anthony Joshua - 240 points
2.Tyson Fury - 210 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 189 points
4.Dillian Whyte - 162 points
5.Luis Ortiz - 155 points
6.Alexander Povetkin - 154 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 130 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 124 points
9.Joseph Parker - 112 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 89 points
11.Adam Kownacki - 73 points
12.Bryant Jennings - 71 points
13.Dereck Chisora - 57 points
14.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 37 points
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16.Michael Hunter - 26 points
17.Hughie Fury - 20 points
18.Joe Joyce and Marco Huck - 12 points
20.Christian Hammer - 11 points
OMG! Kabayel? He sucks! Slow; no big punch; no defense; no decent opponent; not enough activity...GAWSH! :KO:
didnt u used to rate him well? u said he could be world class

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:34
by dagilechia
7 votes:

1. Anthony Joshua - 280 points (voted place: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.Tyson Fury - 245 points (voted place: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3.Deontay Wilder - 221 points (voted place: 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4.Dillian Whyte - 191 points (voted place: 8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4)
5.Alexander Povetkin - 180 points (voted place: 3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5,)
6.Luis Ortiz - 179 points (voted place: 5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6)
7.Jarrell Miller - 152 points (voted place: 7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7)
8.Kubrat Pulev - 144 points (voted place: 6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8)
9.Joseph Parker - 130 points (voted place: 9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9)
10.Dominic Breazeale - 105 points (voted place: 11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10)
11.Adam Kownacki - 87 points (voted place: 10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11)
12.Bryant Jennings - 83 points (voted place: 13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13)
13.Dereck Chisora - 68 points (voted place: 14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14)
14.Filip Hrgović - 58 points (voted place: 12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15)
15.Agit Kabayel - 50 points (voted place: -, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12)
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16.Michael Hunter - 26 points (voted place: 15, -, -, -, 10, -, -)
17.Hughie Fury - 20 points (voted place: -, -, 15, -, 15, -, -)
18.Joe Joyce and Marco Huck - 12 points (Joyce voted place: -, -, -, -, 13, -, -), (Huck voted place: -, 13, -, -, -, -, -)
20.Christian Hammer - 11 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, -, 14, -)

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:35
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:32
oogiebe wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:16
dagilechia wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:13 after 6 votes:

1. Anthony Joshua - 240 points
2.Tyson Fury - 210 points
3.Deontay Wilder - 189 points
4.Dillian Whyte - 162 points
5.Luis Ortiz - 155 points
6.Alexander Povetkin - 154 points
7.Jarrell Miller - 130 points
8.Kubrat Pulev - 124 points
9.Joseph Parker - 112 points
10.Dominic Breazeale - 89 points
11.Adam Kownacki - 73 points
12.Bryant Jennings - 71 points
13.Dereck Chisora - 57 points
14.Filip Hrgović - 48 points
15.Agit Kabayel - 37 points
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16.Michael Hunter - 26 points
17.Hughie Fury - 20 points
18.Joe Joyce and Marco Huck - 12 points
20.Christian Hammer - 11 points
OMG! Kabayel? He sucks! Slow; no big punch; no defense; no decent opponent; not enough activity...GAWSH! :KO:
didnt u used to rate him well? u said he could be world class
Yes, he had been on my "watch" list, however; he never seemed to further develop. In fact, he got slower.
It may be more to how he's been handled. Hasn't stepped up (Chisora maybe) and hasn't been very busy either. One fight in 2018. Twice in 2017.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:40
by tiny_acres
I've got my top 13 so far. This is hard.
The top 3 fighters are obvious.
The 4-6 are pretty well obvious just we all have them in different order.
7-13 I van at least make an argument for.
BUT THE LAST 2 ARE HARD.
I just can't figure out who is more deserving.

People talk about how solid the division is.
I look at this and think what a drop in talent with each number

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:42
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:40 I've got my top 13 so far. This is hard.
The top 3 fighters are obvious.
The 4-6 are pretty well obvious just we all have them in different order.
7-13 I van at least make an argument for.
BUT THE LAST 2 ARE HARD.
I just can't figure out who is more deserving.

People talk about how solid the division is.
I look at this and think what a drop in talent with each number
Totally Agree. It's a crap shoot after 6/7. Fall off in talent after 3 and after 7.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 13:44
by dagilechia
tiny_acres wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 13:40 I've got my top 13 so far. This is hard.
The top 3 fighters are obvious.
The 4-6 are pretty well obvious just we all have them in different order.
7-13 I van at least make an argument for.
BUT THE LAST 2 ARE HARD.
I just can't figure out who is more deserving.

People talk about how solid the division is.
I look at this and think what a drop in talent with each number
yes, at places 13-20 you can have 8 fighters and someone else possibly could have 8 different fighters

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 23:54
by Lackeos
My top 15 and a few extra in case anyone wants to scrutinize which fighters almost made it (but if you do, then just know that I don't give a f*ck). Honestly, everyone between #10 and #21 feels too close to call. Especially since some of these fighters like Takam are getting too old to rank accurately, Huck's last meaningful heavyweight fight was in 2012, a lot of these fighters' only key accomplishment was a single draw or SD, or some don't have any meaningful fights against top 25 opponents.

1 Anthony Joshua
2 Tyson Fury
3 Deontay Wilder
4 Alexander Povetkin
5 Luis Ortiz
6 Kubrat Pulev
7 Dillian Whyte
8 Jarrell Miller
9 Joseph Parker
10 Bryant Jennings
11 Marco Huck
12 Dereck Chisora
13 Agit Kabayel
14 Filip Hrgovic
15 Hughie Fury

16 Dominic Breazeale
17 Andy Ruiz Jr.
18 Carlos Takam
19 Christian Hammer
20 Adam Kownacki
21 Johann Duhaupas

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 06:40
by Boxing Writer
Lackeos wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 23:54 My top 15 and a few extra in case anyone wants to scrutinize which fighters almost made it (but if you do, then just know that I don't give a f*ck). Honestly, everyone between #10 and #21 feels too close to call. Especially since some of these fighters like Takam are getting too old to rank accurately, Huck's last meaningful heavyweight fight was in 2012, a lot of these fighters' only key accomplishment was a single draw or SD, or some don't have any meaningful fights against top 25 opponents.

1 Anthony Joshua
2 Tyson Fury
3 Deontay Wilder
4 Alexander Povetkin
5 Luis Ortiz
6 Kubrat Pulev
7 Dillian Whyte
8 Jarrell Miller
9 Joseph Parker
10 Bryant Jennings
11 Marco Huck
12 Dereck Chisora
13 Agit Kabayel
14 Filip Hrgovic
15 Hughie Fury

16 Dominic Breazeale
17 Andy Ruiz Jr.
18 Carlos Takam
19 Christian Hammer
20 Adam Kownacki
21 Johann Duhaupas
Huck at #11 and Hunter isn't even in top-15? Hunter was much more competetive than Huck against Usyk and scored much better wins than Huck's win over Salgam at HW.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 07:19
by dagilechia
Boxing Writer wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 06:40
Lackeos wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 23:54 My top 15 and a few extra in case anyone wants to scrutinize which fighters almost made it (but if you do, then just know that I don't give a f*ck). Honestly, everyone between #10 and #21 feels too close to call. Especially since some of these fighters like Takam are getting too old to rank accurately, Huck's last meaningful heavyweight fight was in 2012, a lot of these fighters' only key accomplishment was a single draw or SD, or some don't have any meaningful fights against top 25 opponents.

1 Anthony Joshua
2 Tyson Fury
3 Deontay Wilder
4 Alexander Povetkin
5 Luis Ortiz
6 Kubrat Pulev
7 Dillian Whyte
8 Jarrell Miller
9 Joseph Parker
10 Bryant Jennings
11 Marco Huck
12 Dereck Chisora
13 Agit Kabayel
14 Filip Hrgovic
15 Hughie Fury

16 Dominic Breazeale
17 Andy Ruiz Jr.
18 Carlos Takam
19 Christian Hammer
20 Adam Kownacki
21 Johann Duhaupas
Huck at #11 and Hunter isn't even in top-15? Hunter was much more competetive than Huck against Usyk and scored much better wins than Huck's win over Salgam at HW.
yeah i also wonder how someone can have Huck in top 15 especially without Hunter, it's already a second person that did it. I am very surprised.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 07:26
by dagilechia
8 votes:

1. Anthony Joshua - 320 points (voted place: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.Tyson Fury - 280 points (voted place: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3.Deontay Wilder - 253 points (voted place: 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4.Dillian Whyte - 213 points (voted place: 8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7)
5.Alexander Povetkin - 209 points (voted place: 3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4)
6.Luis Ortiz - 205 points (voted place: 5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5)
7.Jarrell Miller - 172 points (voted place: 7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8)
8.Kubrat Pulev - 168 points (voted place: 6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6)
9.Joseph Parker - 148 points (voted place: 9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9)
10.Dominic Breazeale - 105 points (voted place: 11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -)
11.Bryant Jennings - 99 points (voted place: 13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10)
12.Adam Kownacki - 87 points (voted place: 10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -)
13.Dereck Chisora - 81 points (voted place: 14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12)
14.Filip Hrgović - 69 points (voted place: 12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14)
15.Agit Kabayel - 62 points (voted place: -, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13)
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16.Hughie Fury - 30 points (voted place: -, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15)
17.Michael Hunter - 26 points (voted place: 15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -)
17.Marco Huck - 26 points (voted place: -, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11)
19.Joe Joyce - 12 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -)
20.Christian Hammer - 11 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -)

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 07:27
by dagilechia
my observations so far: imo people overrate Whyte and underrate Kownacki, but anyway the list looks good. everyone ranked Fury at 2, nobody ranked Wilder above him, it just shows who really won their fight in the eyes of people.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 08:35
by gregregegg
1. Anthony joshua
2. fury
3. povetkin
4. whyte
5. wilder
6. Parker
7. Ortiz
8. Miller
9. breazeal
10. pulev
11. chizora
12. Hrgovic
13. kowanaki
14. joyce
15. jennings

This list made me notice how much the quality starts to fade around the teens. jennings made the list, but realy hasnt done anything in my books his losses to vlad and ortiz, if i could think of anyone else id oh thrown them in instead.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 12:19
by Lennox
Here is mine:

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Alexander Povetkin
5. Dillian Whyte
6. Luis Ortiz
7. Kubrat Pulev
8. Jarrell Miller
9. Joe Parker
10. Dominic Brezealle
11. Adam Kownacki
12. Christian Hammer
13. Bryant Jennings
14. Agit Kaybel
15. Derrick Chisora

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 13:25
by Lackeos
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 07:19
Boxing Writer wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 06:40 Huck at #11 and Hunter isn't even in top-15? Hunter was much more competetive than Huck against Usyk and scored much better wins than Huck's win over Salgam at HW.
yeah i also wonder how someone can have Huck in top 15 especially without Hunter, it's already a second person that did it. I am very surprised.
Are y'all not aware that Huck was robbed against Povetkin? Huck beat Povetkin, Hunter's best win at heavyweight is Ustinov. That's not really close.

On a related note, the type of comparison you're making, their relative performances against Usyk, is like saying Bryant Jennings fared better against Wlad than Pulev did, therefore rate Jennings above Pulev. It's a pretty small factor when compared to the fact that Huck's entire remaining resume is like 100 times as good as the remainder of Hunter's resume. Huck has about 25 wins that are better than Hunter's best win, and I'm not even exaggerating a little bit.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 13:26
by oogiebe
Lackeos wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 13:25
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 07:19
Boxing Writer wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 06:40 Huck at #11 and Hunter isn't even in top-15? Hunter was much more competetive than Huck against Usyk and scored much better wins than Huck's win over Salgam at HW.
yeah i also wonder how someone can have Huck in top 15 especially without Hunter, it's already a second person that did it. I am very surprised.
Are y'all not aware that Huck was robbed against Povetkin? Huck beat Povetkin, Hunter's best win at heavyweight is Ustinov. That's not really close.
Me too on Huck. :TU: (not sure about Pov robbery though) That's what makes this thread fun!

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 13:32
by ValMar
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 13:26
Lackeos wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 13:25
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 07:19

yeah i also wonder how someone can have Huck in top 15 especially without Hunter, it's already a second person that did it. I am very surprised.
Are y'all not aware that Huck was robbed against Povetkin? Huck beat Povetkin, Hunter's best win at heavyweight is Ustinov. That's not really close.
Me too on Huck. :TU: (not sure about Pov robbery though) That's what makes this thread fun!
Huck deserves to be on the top 10 list (since 2000) at CW. As I know, this is a topic about HW.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 13:47
by jamamb
huck vs pov was 7 years ago, huck has 1 win since 2016 and its 2019 now, hunter also did far better vs usyk then huck did, id rate him higher at hw now though not top 15 yet

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 14:10
by dagilechia
after 10 votes

1. GBR Anthony Joshua - 400 points (voted place: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.GBR Tyson Fury - 350 points (voted place: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3.USA Deontay Wilder - 311 points (voted place: 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3)
4.RUS Alexander Povetkin - 270 points (voted place: 3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4)
5.GBR Dillian Whyte - 268 points (voted place: 8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5)
6.CUB Luis Ortiz - 251 points (voted place: 5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6)
7.USA Jarrell Miller - 212 points (voted place: 7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8.BUL Kubrat Pulev - 206 points (voted place: 6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7)
9.NZL Joseph Parker - 190 points (voted place: 9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9)
10.USA Dominic Breazeale - 139 points (voted place: 11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10)
11.USA Bryant Jennings - 121 points (voted place: 13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13)
12.POL Adam Kownacki - 113 points (voted place: 10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11)
13.GBR Dereck Chisora - 105 points (voted place: 14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15)
14.CRO Filip Hrgović - 82 points (voted place: 12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -)
15.GER Agit Kabayel - 73 points (voted place: -, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14)
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16.GBR Hughie Fury - 30 points (voted place: -, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -)
17.USA Michael Hunter - 26 points (voted place: 15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
17.GER Marco Huck - 26 points (voted place: -, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -)
19.ROU Christian Hammer - 24 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12)
20.GBR Joe Joyce - 23 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -)

very nice, 10 votes is not that bad, hope that there will be more votes though. i doubt that the top 15 will change. Povetkin/Whyte, Miller/Pulev, Jennings/Kownacki are close

I thought that there will be more names mentioned. Surprising that 2 people voted on Huck but nobody voted on Kuzmin. I am also surpirsed that everyone so far voted on Jennings.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 14:15
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:10 after 10 votes

1. GBR Anthony Joshua - 400 points (voted place: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.GBR Tyson Fury - 350 points (voted place: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3.USA Deontay Wilder - 311 points (voted place: 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3)
4.RUS Alexander Povetkin - 270 points (voted place: 3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4)
5.GBR Dillian Whyte - 268 points (voted place: 8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5)
6.CUB Luis Ortiz - 251 points (voted place: 5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6)
7.USA Jarrell Miller - 212 points (voted place: 7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8.BUL Kubrat Pulev - 206 points (voted place: 6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7)
9.NZL Joseph Parker - 190 points (voted place: 9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9)
10.USA Dominic Breazeale - 139 points (voted place: 11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10)
11.USA Bryant Jennings - 121 points (voted place: 13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13)
12.POL Adam Kownacki - 113 points (voted place: 10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11)
13.GBR Dereck Chisora - 105 points (voted place: 14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15)
14.CRO Filip Hrgović - 82 points (voted place: 12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -)
15.GER Agit Kabayel - 73 points (voted place: -, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14)
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16.GBR Hughie Fury - 30 points (voted place: -, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -)
17.USA Michael Hunter - 26 points (voted place: 15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
17.GER Marco Huck - 26 points (voted place: -, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -)
19.ROU Christian Hammer - 24 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12)
20.GBR Joe Joyce - 23 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -)

very nice, 10 votes is not that bad, hope that there will be more votes though. i doubt that the top 15 will change. Povetkin/Whyte, Miller/Pulev, Jennings/Kownacki are clsoe
We have Kownacki vs Washington and Jennings vs Rivas coming up so we'll see. Miller vs TBA won't change anything :D

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 14:19
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:15
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:10 after 10 votes

1. GBR Anthony Joshua - 400 points (voted place: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.GBR Tyson Fury - 350 points (voted place: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3.USA Deontay Wilder - 311 points (voted place: 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3)
4.RUS Alexander Povetkin - 270 points (voted place: 3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4)
5.GBR Dillian Whyte - 268 points (voted place: 8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5)
6.CUB Luis Ortiz - 251 points (voted place: 5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6)
7.USA Jarrell Miller - 212 points (voted place: 7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8.BUL Kubrat Pulev - 206 points (voted place: 6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7)
9.NZL Joseph Parker - 190 points (voted place: 9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9)
10.USA Dominic Breazeale - 139 points (voted place: 11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10)
11.USA Bryant Jennings - 121 points (voted place: 13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13)
12.POL Adam Kownacki - 113 points (voted place: 10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11)
13.GBR Dereck Chisora - 105 points (voted place: 14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15)
14.CRO Filip Hrgović - 82 points (voted place: 12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -)
15.GER Agit Kabayel - 73 points (voted place: -, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14)
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16.GBR Hughie Fury - 30 points (voted place: -, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -)
17.USA Michael Hunter - 26 points (voted place: 15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
17.GER Marco Huck - 26 points (voted place: -, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -)
19.ROU Christian Hammer - 24 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12)
20.GBR Joe Joyce - 23 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -)

very nice, 10 votes is not that bad, hope that there will be more votes though. i doubt that the top 15 will change. Povetkin/Whyte, Miller/Pulev, Jennings/Kownacki are clsoe
We have Kownacki vs Washington and Jennings vs Rivas coming up so we'll see. Miller vs TBA won't change anything :D
yes so the vote will last until those fights, btw - no rumours about Miller's opponent?

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 14:25
by dagilechia
1st Tier: Joshua, Fury, Wilder

2nd Tier: Povetkin, Whyte, Ortiz,

3rd Tier: Miller, Pulev, Parker

4th Tier: Breazeale, Jennings, Kownacki

5th Tier: Chisora, Hrgović, Kabayel

i personally see it like this

1: Joshua, Fury, Wilder (i could well have Wilder in 2nd tier too)
2: Povetkin, Ortiz (i rank Povetkin higher than Wilder but he is old now so it's obvious that he will be fading, also he comes after a loss so he will not get really big fight/titleshot soon, maybe he will never get it again)
3: Pulev, Miller, Whyte, Parker
4: Kownacki, Breazeale, Hrgović
5: Jennings, Chisora, Hunter, Kuzmin, Kabayel

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 14:58
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:19
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:15
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:10 after 10 votes

1. GBR Anthony Joshua - 400 points (voted place: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.GBR Tyson Fury - 350 points (voted place: 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
3.USA Deontay Wilder - 311 points (voted place: 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 3)
4.RUS Alexander Povetkin - 270 points (voted place: 3, 6, 7, 5, 5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 4)
5.GBR Dillian Whyte - 268 points (voted place: 8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 7, 4, 5)
6.CUB Luis Ortiz - 251 points (voted place: 5, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5, 6, 5, 7, 6)
7.USA Jarrell Miller - 212 points (voted place: 7, 7, 6, 8, 8, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
8.BUL Kubrat Pulev - 206 points (voted place: 6, 9, 9, 7, 7, 8, 8, 6, 10, 7)
9.NZL Joseph Parker - 190 points (voted place: 9, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 6, 9)
10.USA Dominic Breazeale - 139 points (voted place: 11, 12, 10, 10, 11, 10, 10, -, 9, 10)
11.USA Bryant Jennings - 121 points (voted place: 13, 15, 12, 13, 14, 12, 13, 10, 15, 13)
12.POL Adam Kownacki - 113 points (voted place: 10, 10, -, 11, 12, 11, 11, -, 13, 11)
13.GBR Dereck Chisora - 105 points (voted place: 14, 11, 14, 14, -, 15, 14, 12, 11, 15)
14.CRO Filip Hrgović - 82 points (voted place: 12, 14, 11, 15, -, -, 15, 14, 12, -)
15.GER Agit Kabayel - 73 points (voted place: -, -, 13, 12, -, 13, 12, 13, -, 14)
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16.GBR Hughie Fury - 30 points (voted place: -, -, 15, -, 15, -, -, 15, -, -)
17.USA Michael Hunter - 26 points (voted place: 15, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
17.GER Marco Huck - 26 points (voted place: -, 13, -, -, -, -, -, 11, -, -)
19.ROU Christian Hammer - 24 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, -, 14, -, -, -, 12)
20.GBR Joe Joyce - 23 points (voted place: -, -, -, -, 13, -, -, -, 14, -)

very nice, 10 votes is not that bad, hope that there will be more votes though. i doubt that the top 15 will change. Povetkin/Whyte, Miller/Pulev, Jennings/Kownacki are clsoe
We have Kownacki vs Washington and Jennings vs Rivas coming up so we'll see. Miller vs TBA won't change anything :D
yes so the vote will last until those fights, btw - no rumours about Miller's opponent?
Only the dreaded TBA.

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 14:59
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:58
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:19
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:15
We have Kownacki vs Washington and Jennings vs Rivas coming up so we'll see. Miller vs TBA won't change anything :D
yes so the vote will last until those fights, btw - no rumours about Miller's opponent?
Only the dreaded TBA.
i can't wait when they will announce his opponent, it will probably make me laugh a lot

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 15:00
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:59
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:58
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:19

yes so the vote will last until those fights, btw - no rumours about Miller's opponent?
Only the dreaded TBA.
i can't wait when they will announce his opponent, it will probably make me laugh a lot
At this point it may make you throw up! :o

Re: What you think about re-activating BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 ranking?

Posted: 08 Jan 2019, 15:01
by dagilechia
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 15:00
dagilechia wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:59
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jan 2019, 14:58
Only the dreaded TBA.
i can't wait when they will announce his opponent, it will probably make me laugh a lot
At this point it may make you throw up! :o
:lol: we will see... maybe they will surprise us and it will be someone at least decent :maybe: