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Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 13:08
by gilgamesh
brilo33 wrote: ↑17 Feb 2019, 13:25
I mean GGG could nt put Saul down.
In fairness nobody else has either.
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 13:10
by gilgamesh
Biggest puncher today is probably Wilder. John Molina is a big hitter, but so flawed in other ways that it makes him still just above average I'd say, but a genuine puncher nevertheless.
How do you determine a puncher? Results my friend. Knockout results. Particularly if you're able to stop guys that either A) Nobody else has beaten or B) Nobody else has stopped.
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 15:01
by KiwiRider
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 13:10
Biggest puncher today is probably Wilder. John Molina is a big hitter, but so flawed in other ways that it makes him still just above average I'd say, but a genuine puncher nevertheless.
How do you determine a puncher? Results my friend. Knockout results. Particularly if you're able to stop guys that either A) Nobody else has beaten or B) Nobody else has stopped.
By your methodology Gil, Joshua should be mentioned. He has taken a few "0" s by knock out.
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 17:34
by gilgamesh
KiwiRider wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 15:01
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 13:10
Biggest puncher today is probably Wilder. John Molina is a big hitter, but so flawed in other ways that it makes him still just above average I'd say, but a genuine puncher nevertheless.
How do you determine a puncher? Results my friend. Knockout results. Particularly if you're able to stop guys that either A) Nobody else has beaten or B) Nobody else has stopped.
By your methodology Gil, Joshua should be mentioned. He has taken a few "0" s by knock out.
Joshua is undoubtedly a very big puncher. He'd have to rank among the Top 10 Punchers going at the moment for sure. Though the Welterweights are chock full of talent I don't know that I'd consider any of those guys to be punchers. Errol Spence is probably the puncher of the bunch, and even he seems like a guy that's more athletic and a boxer/puncher type than an outright puncher.
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 17:39
by Onetimeonly
No question Inoue is top 5. Prograis hits pretty hard too.
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 17:46
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 17:39
No question Inoue is top 5. Prograis hits pretty hard too.
Yeah I'd consider Prograis to be a bigger hitter than any of the current Welterweight or Lightweight crop. Save for maybe a John Molina type who isn't exactly Elite, but still a big banger. He's one of those guys who's Power saves him from being completely mediocre.
Beterbiev and Kovalev are still pretty big hitters, arguably Top 10 or 15. Dorticos and Gassiev at Cruiserweight are big punchers.
There's gotta be some other guys like Molina we're all forgetting who are kinda middle of the road fighters, but are known for having a big punch.
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 17:53
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 17:46
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 17:39
No question Inoue is top 5. Prograis hits pretty hard too.
Yeah I'd consider Prograis to be a bigger hitter than any of the current Welterweight or Lightweight crop. Save for maybe a John Molina type who isn't exactly Elite, but still a big banger. He's one of those guys who's Power saves him from being completely mediocre.
Beterbiev and Kovalev are still pretty big hitters, arguably Top 10 or 15. Dorticos and Gassiev at Cruiserweight are big punchers.
There's gotta be some other guys like Molina we're all forgetting who are kinda middle of the road fighters, but are known for having a big punch.
I mentioned nery earlier.
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 19:23
by KiwiRider
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 17:46
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 17:39
No question Inoue is top 5. Prograis hits pretty hard too.
Yeah I'd consider Prograis to be a bigger hitter than any of the current Welterweight or Lightweight crop. Save for maybe a John Molina type who isn't exactly Elite, but still a big banger. He's one of those guys who's Power saves him from being completely mediocre.
Beterbiev and Kovalev are still pretty big hitters, arguably Top 10 or 15. Dorticos and Gassiev at Cruiserweight are big punchers.
There's gotta be some other guys like Molina
we're all forgetting who are kinda middle of the road fighters, but are known for having a big punch.
Oh, you mean Cletus "The Hebrew Hammer" Seldin?
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 20:43
by Boxing Prospect
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 17:46
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Feb 2019, 17:39
No question Inoue is top 5. Prograis hits pretty hard too.
Yeah I'd consider Prograis to be a bigger hitter than any of the current Welterweight or Lightweight crop. Save for maybe a John Molina type who isn't exactly Elite, but still a big banger. He's one of those guys who's Power saves him from being completely mediocre.
Beterbiev and Kovalev are still pretty big hitters, arguably Top 10 or 15. Dorticos and Gassiev at Cruiserweight are big punchers.
There's gotta be some other guys like Molina we're all forgetting who are kinda middle of the road fighters, but are known for having a big punch.
Loreto and Migreno spring to mind
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 25 Feb 2019, 05:42
by Oiky
Murat gassiev can whack
Re: biggest punchers today?/how do u determine a puncher?
Posted: 27 Feb 2019, 03:53
by banjo
Deserter wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 18:38
Jackson obviously stands out, but I feel Hearns surely deserves more of a shout-out. At Welter through to Middle he was a stone-cold killer - witness the Cuevas, Duran and Schuler KOs as evidence.
That right hand made Cuevas do the truffle shuffle.