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Rob3_142 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 05:48

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:08

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:05 This sucks. I'm sure fury got a nice bag of cash. It sure is hard for wilder to get big fights. Two in a row was probably the best we could hope for.

You think he should sign with Arum moving foward?

No, he should stay free and pray for an aj fight. If he gets and wins that he can fight fury without signing with arum. Legacy is important to deontay.

I don't believe this for one second. Wilder is 33 and 41 fights in. There has been zero evidence that Wilder has being trying to secure any legacy at all so far.

I came on here saying why is AJ calling out Wilder instead of Fury? He should be calling out Fury . Why I M not in charge?

boxing politics man

The Asleep Lamps wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 10:17 I came on here saying why is AJ calling out Wilder instead of Fury? He should be calling out Fury . Why I M not in charge?

Wilder isn't contractually-tied to a network and also possesses the WBC title, whereas Fury is contracted to ESPN and doesn't possess any title, other than the mythical lineal championship.

AJ-Wilder is an easier bout to make than AJ-Fury.

Eolaithe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 10:31

The Asleep Lamps wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 10:17 I came on here saying why is AJ calling out Wilder instead of Fury? He should be calling out Fury . Why I M not in charge?

Wilder isn't contractually-tied to a network and also possesses the WBC title, whereas Fury is contracted to ESPN and doesn't possess any title, other than the mythical lineal championship.

AJ-Wilder is an easier bout to make than AJ-Fury.

I think based on the 'negotiations' over the last 6-12 months that's not remotely true. Plus AJ is signed up the DAZN, which also conflicts with Showtime, which Wilder is signed up with.

All three match ups are now exponentially more difficult to make. That doesn't even take into account BT and Sky in the UK.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 08:42

Rob3_142 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 05:48

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:08

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:05 This sucks. I'm sure fury got a nice bag of cash. It sure is hard for wilder to get big fights. Two in a row was probably the best we could hope for.

You think he should sign with Arum moving foward?

No, he should stay free and pray for an aj fight. If he gets and wins that he can fight fury without signing with arum. Legacy is important to deontay.

I don't believe this for one second. Wilder is 33 and 41 fights in. There has been zero evidence that Wilder has being trying to secure any legacy at all so far.

What a beautifully crafted rebuttal. Astounding in its elegance and simplicity. Eat your heart out Rob.

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 10:51

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 08:42

Rob3_142 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 05:48

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:08

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑26 Feb 2019, 18:05 This sucks. I'm sure fury got a nice bag of cash. It sure is hard for wilder to get big fights. Two in a row was probably the best we could hope for.

You think he should sign with Arum moving foward?

No, he should stay free and pray for an aj fight. If he gets and wins that he can fight fury without signing with arum. Legacy is important to deontay.

I don't believe this for one second. Wilder is 33 and 41 fights in. There has been zero evidence that Wilder has being trying to secure any legacy at all so far.

What a beautifully crafted rebuttal. Astounding in its elegance and simplicity. Eat your heart out Rob.

And another. Is there no limit to the debating wizardry of this titan among us?

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:07 And another. Is there no limit to the debating wizardry of this titan among us?

Says the guy ignoring me.

I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

Good luck with that!

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

You don't bother me at all. I find it amusing that you follow me around. Once you come to grips with the facts that you're obsessed with deontay wilder you can start to heal.

Rob3_142 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 10:36

Eolaithe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 10:31

The Asleep Lamps wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 10:17 I came on here saying why is AJ calling out Wilder instead of Fury? He should be calling out Fury . Why I M not in charge?

Wilder isn't contractually-tied to a network and also possesses the WBC title, whereas Fury is contracted to ESPN and doesn't possess any title, other than the mythical lineal championship.

AJ-Wilder is an easier bout to make than AJ-Fury.

I think based on the 'negotiations' over the last 6-12 months that's not remotely true. Plus AJ is signed up the DAZN, which also conflicts with Showtime, which Wilder is signed up with.

All three match ups are now exponentially more difficult to make. That doesn't even take into account BT and Sky in the UK.

In terms of broadcasters, Wilder is a free agent. He doesn't have a contract with Showtime. He is a PBC fighter though, which means that by proxy of his relationship with Al Haymon, Fox or Showtime are by default his "home" networks, but he's not legally obliged to work with those networks.

In fact, as recently as two days ago, Eddie Hearn stated that he'd like to speak with the "free agent" Deontay Wilder, to get him to sign with DAZN, as per Daniel Jacobs (who is also affiliated with Al Haymon).

If you don't believe me, Deontay Wilder clearly stated that he was a "free agent" and was even willing to compete on ESPN (if the price was right) to face Tyson Fury.

In fact, I can't think of a single fighter that has an exclusive contract with Showtime.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:16

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

You don't bother me at all. I find it amusing that you follow me around. Once you come to grips with the facts that you're obsessed with deontay wilder you can start to heal.

I follow you around that's rich that is. You got yourself banned for being an obnoxious prick. It seems you just can't help yourself. I suppose the leopard doesn't change his spots.

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:23

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:16

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

You don't bother me at all. I find it amusing that you follow me around. Once you come to grips with the facts that you're obsessed with deontay wilder you can start to heal.

I follow you around that's rich that is. You got yourself banned for being an obnoxious prick. It seems you just can't help yourself. I suppose the leopard doesn't change his spots.

Not at all why I got banned. It's pretty funny that you chime in to admonish my debating skills. What are you adding to the thread?

Fury avoids a rematch. Again. Good. Now Wilder has nowhere else to go if he wants his slice of the pie.

AJ v Wilder for late 2019. Who's Fury?

Nothing much on this occasion I was just enjoying myself.

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:32 Nothing much on this occasion I was just enjoying myself.

Good for you. If following me about a message board brings you joy. By all means, troll away.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:30

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:23

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:16

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

You don't bother me at all. I find it amusing that you follow me around. Once you come to grips with the facts that you're obsessed with deontay wilder you can start to heal.

I follow you around that's rich that is. You got yourself banned for being an obnoxious prick. It seems you just can't help yourself. I suppose the leopard doesn't change his spots.

Not at all why I got banned. It's pretty funny that you chime in to admonish my debating skills. What are you adding to the thread?

Maybe not but you are an obnoxious prick. Can't wait to see which emoji you select to reply.

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:39

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:30

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:23

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:16

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

You don't bother me at all. I find it amusing that you follow me around. Once you come to grips with the facts that you're obsessed with deontay wilder you can start to heal.

I follow you around that's rich that is. You got yourself banned for being an obnoxious prick. It seems you just can't help yourself. I suppose the leopard doesn't change his spots.

Not at all why I got banned. It's pretty funny that you chime in to admonish my debating skills. What are you adding to the thread?

Maybe not but you are an obnoxious prick. Can't wait to see which emoji you select to reply.

Lol, I'm as laid back as they come. Y'all take your message boarding far too seriously.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:41

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:39

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:30

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:23

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:16

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

You don't bother me at all. I find it amusing that you follow me around. Once you come to grips with the facts that you're obsessed with deontay wilder you can start to heal.

I follow you around that's rich that is. You got yourself banned for being an obnoxious prick. It seems you just can't help yourself. I suppose the leopard doesn't change his spots.

Not at all why I got banned. It's pretty funny that you chime in to admonish my debating skills. What are you adding to the thread?

Maybe not but you are an obnoxious prick. Can't wait to see which emoji you select to reply.

Lol, I'm as laid back as they come. Y'all take your message boarding far too seriously.

LOL!!! Oh yeah, you're laid back alright.

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:42

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:41

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:39

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:30

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:23

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:16

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

You don't bother me at all. I find it amusing that you follow me around. Once you come to grips with the facts that you're obsessed with deontay wilder you can start to heal.

I follow you around that's rich that is. You got yourself banned for being an obnoxious prick. It seems you just can't help yourself. I suppose the leopard doesn't change his spots.

Not at all why I got banned. It's pretty funny that you chime in to admonish my debating skills. What are you adding to the thread?

Maybe not but you are an obnoxious prick. Can't wait to see which emoji you select to reply.

Lol, I'm as laid back as they come. Y'all take your message boarding far too seriously.

LOL!!! Oh yeah, you're laid back alright.

To a fault.

Ok I'll add my thoughts but it'll probably be too long for you to read anyway.

Obviously as a fan it sucks even if it is karma in it's way. I guess Fury will do what is best for himself and the ESPN deal is pretty impossible to walk away from.

No doubt Wilder will fight Breazeale or Kownacki. Bad luck on Whyte but he might be well advised to go after the one that Wilder doesn't fight. They are both well within Whyte's capabilities and gets him nearer to where he wants to be.

Hopefully this might mean a Joshua v Wilder fight isn't as far away as we feared now the Wilder Fury alliance has crashed on the rocks.

That's not long, wouldn't call it interesting but it's definitely an acceptable length for something you'd like me to read.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:43

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:42

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:41

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:39

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:30

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:23

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:16

candyslim wrote: ↑27 Feb 2019, 11:14 I'll do you a deal. You stop making snarky little comments about me and I won't feel obliged to give a bit back.

You don't bother me at all. I find it amusing that you follow me around. Once you come to grips with the facts that you're obsessed with deontay wilder you can start to heal.

I follow you around that's rich that is. You got yourself banned for being an obnoxious prick. It seems you just can't help yourself. I suppose the leopard doesn't change his spots.

Not at all why I got banned. It's pretty funny that you chime in to admonish my debating skills. What are you adding to the thread?

Maybe not but you are an obnoxious prick. Can't wait to see which emoji you select to reply.

Lol, I'm as laid back as they come. Y'all take your message boarding far too seriously.

LOL!!! Oh yeah, you're laid back alright.

To a fault.

That's complete and utter crap. I come on here to enjoy the companionship of people who share my passion. I am not blessed by friends and family members who are anything more than extreme casuals, so I value and respect nearly everyone of this board and try to make that apparent. I've had a great many differences of opinion with all the regulars and continue to enjoy a friendly and healthy relationship.

I have only found three people on boxrec where disagreements were frequent and less than cordial. It's no accident that you head the list. You don't come on here for any reasons that I relate to. You seem determined to pick fights and sow discord. You shy away from debate and use emojis to belittle and pour scorn in an effort to big yourself up.

I objected vociferously when I heard you had been banned from the forum. I got some support but mainly criticism for sticking my oar in without knowing the facts. You can be certain if it happens again in the future my silence is assured.