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Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 10:33
by jamamb
ya thats what happens when your not disciplined and cant stay in shape between fights. you get a big money offer, 3 belts, s the top hw that you say you want so bad, but then you have to turn it down cus your fat and outta shape. in luis case i mean how much time does he have left anyway
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 10:35
by Oiky
bigjack wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 10:31
They'd have 6 for gods sake
Professional fighting is a full time job,stay fit,stay sharp & if a fight like this comes along,unless your seriously injured,take it,no???
They are heavyweights not lightweights,some fighters would love a chance to fight aj but would never get the shot,those that are getting a call are f***ing it off
Don't become a pro fighter if your not ready for the big chances it's quite simple
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 10:38
by oogiebe
MasterG wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 10:26
Ortiz camp said not ready in 7 weeks.
Ortiz said he would do it if his camp thought he could be ready. It's still open as of twenty minutes ago. So much innuendo and hearsay being strewn about it's difficult to sort it out.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 10:44
by JimStone
Any of those potential challengers that turn this down due to lack of prep time are giving off a glaring signal that they are likely dirty too. No time to cycle on/off before due date. Jokers.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 10:45
by Oiky
Yup,its all a f***ing mess
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 10:45
by oogiebe
JimStone wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 10:44
Any of those potential challengers that turn this down due to lack of prep time are giving off a glaring signal that they are likely dirty too. No time to cycle on/off before due date. Jokers.
Not necessarily. It's just under seven weeks to fight time. Using that as leverage to say 'we can't be ready by then' in order to squeeze out more pay is my thought.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:25
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 10:45
Not necessarily. It's just under seven weeks to fight time. Using that as leverage to say 'we can't be ready by then' in order to squeeze out more pay is my thought.
Or 7 weeks is just not enough training time to mount a serious challenge
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:31
by jamamb
ya for the undedicated guys
ort at least should go for it if offered, he and his fans always moans about being ducked and hes already in the late late stages of his career likely anyway
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:34
by bigjack
bigjack wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 10:31
They'd have 6 weeks for gods sake
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:35
by tobyh5
JimStone wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 10:44
Any of those potential challengers that turn this down due to lack of prep time are giving off a glaring signal that they are likely dirty too. No time to cycle on/off before due date. Jokers.
Wouldn't it be the exact opposite of that?
They would juice like the nuts out of competition, when not as likely to be tested, then be off in the run-up to a fight,
So they are currently out of competition and so juicing now, sign for the fight and they would be stopping anyway and as the fight is so close would get the benefits for most of the camp and up to the fight.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:37
by smiling assassin
As already been said, 7 weeks should be plenty of time for a professional boxer to be ready to fight. On top of that the money you'd get from fighting Joshua must be close to be a career highest. It's a no brainier
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:47
by jamamb
ya ppl already responded to you mate, for a dedicated pro 6-7 weeks of hard camp after staying in the gym is decent. a guy turning this down should never complain that the top guys ducked him or anything like that. pay bound to be very good too, a guy like ortiz has never made more then 500k i dont think
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 11:58
by Benelio
I reckon Hunter could do quite well against Joshua, even though he's not a name.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:00
by oogiebe
What really makes me go "hmmm" is that VADA took four weeks to announce the test results. That really caused a larger mess as the timeline to get a replacement would've been way easier 3 or 4 weeks ago.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:02
by JimStone
tobyh5 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 11:35
Wouldn't it be the exact opposite of that?
They would juice like the nuts out of competition, when not as likely to be tested, then be off in the run-up to a fight,
So they are currently out of competition and so juicing now, sign for the fight and they would be stopping anyway and as the fight is so close would get the benefits for most of the camp and up to the fight.
They could sign tomorrow, get tested the same day and piss hot.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:18
by Coco
bigjack wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 10:31
They'd have 6 for gods sake
6 weeks is enough if you are half in shape.
If you are in no shape it's not.
Nevertheless it's going to be a million quid payday, who can afford to turn that down?
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:19
by kbackup408
oogiebe wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 12:00
What really makes me go "hmmm" is that VADA took four weeks to announce the test results. That really caused a larger mess as the timeline to get a replacement would've been way easier 3 or 4 weeks ago.
I think the testing process has a lot of red tape mate, so from collecting the sample to testing and finally announcing it can be a long process
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:23
by oogiebe
kbackup408 wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 12:19
I think the testing process has a lot of red tape mate, so from collecting the sample to testing and finally announcing it can be a long process
Obviously. They took 4 weeks from the time the result was known is what I heard. Just saying.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:24
by keithmoonhangover
Step forward Tyson Fury, a fighting man, who will fight anyone, anywhere and doesn't need the money as he is already a millionaire. He'll fight Josh in a car park for a pint of shandy and some pork scratchings.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:26
by oogiebe
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 12:24
Step forward Tyson Fury, a fighting man, who will fight anyone, anywhere and doesn't need the money as he is already a millionaire. He'll fight Josh in a car park for a pint of shandy and some pork scratchings.

Just as soon as he's done with Schwarz, right?

Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:41
by Coco
If Fury stepped up for the going rate, would AJ take it?
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:54
by tobyh5
JimStone wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 12:02
They could sign tomorrow, get tested the same day and piss hot.
They would piss clean for many substances in a day or two. A week would see them piss clean for most things. So the clock started a day ago already when they knew they may be in the hot seat ( when miller failed) and come straight off, start negotiating but take a couple days and they’ll be fine.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:58
by HeavyHitters
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 12:59
by oogiebe
Shhhh wrote: ↑18 Apr 2019, 12:58
Hearn hinting Kownacki or Ortiz
Kow took himself out. Announcing he won't be facing AJ and is focused on a mid summer fight.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 13:05
by tobyh5
40?
He turned pro at 41
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