Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?

Which replacement would you prefer?

Poll ended at 17 May 2019, 13:29

Luis Ortiz
68
58%
Dillian Whyte
16
14%
Adam Kownacki
3
3%
Manuel Charr
0
No votes
Joe Joyce
5
4%
Michael Hunter
8
7%
Joseph Parker
0
No votes
Dereck Chisora
2
2%
Kubrat Pulev
7
6%
Other (Please post)
8
7%
 
Total votes: 117

jamamb
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Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?

Post by jamamb »

ya thats what happens when your not disciplined and cant stay in shape between fights. you get a big money offer, 3 belts, s the top hw that you say you want so bad, but then you have to turn it down cus your fat and outta shape. in luis case i mean how much time does he have left anyway
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bigjack wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 10:31 They'd have 6 for gods sake
Professional fighting is a full time job,stay fit,stay sharp & if a fight like this comes along,unless your seriously injured,take it,no???

They are heavyweights not lightweights,some fighters would love a chance to fight aj but would never get the shot,those that are getting a call are f***ing it off

Don't become a pro fighter if your not ready for the big chances it's quite simple
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MasterG wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 10:26 Ortiz camp said not ready in 7 weeks.
Ortiz said he would do it if his camp thought he could be ready. It's still open as of twenty minutes ago. So much innuendo and hearsay being strewn about it's difficult to sort it out.
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Any of those potential challengers that turn this down due to lack of prep time are giving off a glaring signal that they are likely dirty too. No time to cycle on/off before due date. Jokers.
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Yup,its all a f***ing mess
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JimStone wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 10:44 Any of those potential challengers that turn this down due to lack of prep time are giving off a glaring signal that they are likely dirty too. No time to cycle on/off before due date. Jokers.
Not necessarily. It's just under seven weeks to fight time. Using that as leverage to say 'we can't be ready by then' in order to squeeze out more pay is my thought.
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oogiebe wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 10:45 Not necessarily. It's just under seven weeks to fight time. Using that as leverage to say 'we can't be ready by then' in order to squeeze out more pay is my thought.
Or 7 weeks is just not enough training time to mount a serious challenge
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Post by jamamb »

ya for the undedicated guys

ort at least should go for it if offered, he and his fans always moans about being ducked and hes already in the late late stages of his career likely anyway
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bigjack wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 10:31 They'd have 6 weeks for gods sake
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JimStone wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 10:44 Any of those potential challengers that turn this down due to lack of prep time are giving off a glaring signal that they are likely dirty too. No time to cycle on/off before due date. Jokers.
Wouldn't it be the exact opposite of that?

They would juice like the nuts out of competition, when not as likely to be tested, then be off in the run-up to a fight,

So they are currently out of competition and so juicing now, sign for the fight and they would be stopping anyway and as the fight is so close would get the benefits for most of the camp and up to the fight.
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Post by smiling assassin »

As already been said, 7 weeks should be plenty of time for a professional boxer to be ready to fight. On top of that the money you'd get from fighting Joshua must be close to be a career highest. It's a no brainier
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bigjack wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 11:34
ya ppl already responded to you mate, for a dedicated pro 6-7 weeks of hard camp after staying in the gym is decent. a guy turning this down should never complain that the top guys ducked him or anything like that. pay bound to be very good too, a guy like ortiz has never made more then 500k i dont think
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I reckon Hunter could do quite well against Joshua, even though he's not a name.
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What really makes me go "hmmm" is that VADA took four weeks to announce the test results. That really caused a larger mess as the timeline to get a replacement would've been way easier 3 or 4 weeks ago.
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tobyh5 wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 11:35 Wouldn't it be the exact opposite of that?

They would juice like the nuts out of competition, when not as likely to be tested, then be off in the run-up to a fight,

So they are currently out of competition and so juicing now, sign for the fight and they would be stopping anyway and as the fight is so close would get the benefits for most of the camp and up to the fight.
They could sign tomorrow, get tested the same day and piss hot.
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bigjack wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 10:31 They'd have 6 for gods sake
6 weeks is enough if you are half in shape.
If you are in no shape it's not.
Nevertheless it's going to be a million quid payday, who can afford to turn that down?
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oogiebe wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:00 What really makes me go "hmmm" is that VADA took four weeks to announce the test results. That really caused a larger mess as the timeline to get a replacement would've been way easier 3 or 4 weeks ago.
I think the testing process has a lot of red tape mate, so from collecting the sample to testing and finally announcing it can be a long process
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kbackup408 wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:19 I think the testing process has a lot of red tape mate, so from collecting the sample to testing and finally announcing it can be a long process
Obviously. They took 4 weeks from the time the result was known is what I heard. Just saying.
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Post by keithmoonhangover »

Step forward Tyson Fury, a fighting man, who will fight anyone, anywhere and doesn't need the money as he is already a millionaire. He'll fight Josh in a car park for a pint of shandy and some pork scratchings.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:24 Step forward Tyson Fury, a fighting man, who will fight anyone, anywhere and doesn't need the money as he is already a millionaire. He'll fight Josh in a car park for a pint of shandy and some pork scratchings.
:lol: Just as soon as he's done with Schwarz, right? :lol:
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If Fury stepped up for the going rate, would AJ take it?
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JimStone wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:02 They could sign tomorrow, get tested the same day and piss hot.
They would piss clean for many substances in a day or two. A week would see them piss clean for most things. So the clock started a day ago already when they knew they may be in the hot seat ( when miller failed) and come straight off, start negotiating but take a couple days and they’ll be fine.
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I voted for Ortiz, since he is basically running out of time, since he is around 40 years of age.

Plus he would be a good match-up for Joshua! I'd give it a 65%-35% that Joshua wins though.

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Shhhh wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:58 Hearn hinting Kownacki or Ortiz
Kow took himself out. Announcing he won't be facing AJ and is focused on a mid summer fight.
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HeavyHitters wrote: 18 Apr 2019, 12:58 I voted for Ortiz, since he is basically running out of time, since he is around 40 years of age.

Plus he would be a good match-up for Joshua! I'd give it a 65%-35% that Joshua wins though.

:bag: :bag: :bag: :bag: :bag:
40?

He turned pro at 41 ;-)
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