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Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 11:36
by Nightmare Roy
Khan has definitely been a warrior I think last night time just caught up with him, his speed has gone, hopefully he’s made enough dough to walk away, the Brook fight might still happen first though now.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 11:58
by JimStone
He's made plenty and the type of properties you can buy in Pakistan for what he's carrying would blow your mind. Obviously it's not a place where most people would want to live but if you've got the language, culture and caste it's absolutely beautiful in parts.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 12:28
by Oiky
Yeah bet khans got plenty of dough wrapped round him

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 12:35
by banjo
I think he's a different fighter since the Alvarez fight tbh.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 12:47
by Coco
Your pride hurts much more than a bust jaw, Khan will be hurting for a long time

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 14:08
by TheLeprechaun
Theres always people who defend a fighter quitting on forums. A fighter could flat out quit like Walters did vs Loma and people will still defend him. It's not so much the defending the fighter that bothers me. It's the absolute delusional stance that the defenders take when they proclaim he didn't quit. Khan quit in the fight and it's a simple as that. It's simply stating a fact to say he quit.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 14:09
by oogiebe
TheLeprechaun wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:08 Theres always people who defend a fighter quitting on forums. A fighter could flat out quit like Walters did vs Loma and people will still defend him. It's not so much the defending the fighter that bothers me. It's the absolute delusional stance that the defenders take when they proclaim he didn't quit. Khan quit in the fight and it's a simple as that. It's simply stating a fact to say he quit.
I agree. (Roberto Duran is a great example and I love hands of stone)

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 14:25
by banjo
TheLeprechaun wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:08 Theres always people who defend a fighter quitting on forums. A fighter could flat out quit like Walters did vs Loma and people will still defend him. It's not so much the defending the fighter that bothers me. It's the absolute delusional stance that the defenders take when they proclaim he didn't quit. Khan quit in the fight and it's a simple as that. It's simply stating a fact to say he quit.
True. I'd have more respect for a fighter if they just said "he's beating the shit out of me and I can't do anything about it, so why carry on, I'll live to fight another day" Kostya Tsyzu quit vs Hatton but you don't lose any respect for him over that, he was getting beaten, he knew he was getting beaten and didn't want to go on, fair play.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 14:29
by oogiebe
banjo wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:25 True. I'd have more respect for a fighter if they just said "he's beating the poo out of me and I can't do anything about it, so why carry on, I'll live to fight another day" Kostya Tsyzu quit vs Hatton but you don't lose any respect for him over that, he was getting beaten, he knew he was getting beaten and didn't want to go on, fair play.
Well played! Great points.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 15:13
by Stuarty
Coco wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 07:25 That wasn't the case with Benn v Collins though.
While Khan didn't exactly cover himself in glory last night, his previous performances have already demonstrated his cojones.
Unfortunately we are seeing another fighter at the end of his career.
Benn had too many miles on the clock by the time Collins got him mate. Khan still looks to have a good bit in the tank. He was just in over his head last night.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 15:21
by banjo
oogiebe wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 14:29 Well played! Great points.
There's no glory in getting the piss beaten out of you.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 15:23
by oogiebe
banjo wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 15:21 There's no glory in getting the piss beaten out of you.
Yup. A fighter saying "I've had enough" is fine with me.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 16:20
by Onetimeonly
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 07:39 It's the end of Khan's big time career now, the networks in the US certainly won't want anything to do with him.

I won't call him a coward, as he's proven his bravery enough times, but I do feel he cheated the public and fans.

I would have had more respect for him, if he'd quit between rounds and said "Virgil, I just don't have it any more, I'm calling it a day."

There might be some mileage in a fight with brook, but both men are much diminished, and it's a smaller fight than it would have been 5 years ago in their primes.

For what it's worth, that was an uppercut to the cup, whether it contacted the inner thigh or not, that would have hurt, but when it initally happened, no way did I think that would be the end of the fight, I've seen far worse in a boxing match, and with the levels of adrenalin going through the fighters body's at that stage, the pain wouldn't be that severe, hell I took a pasting to the nuts in a boxing match as a kid, 3 big uppercuts right to my balls, and without a cup, and didn't even register the pain until that evening, when my balls turned completely black from blood and I'm nowhere near as tough as a professional fighter.

Would it have caused discomfort, for sure., but no way a fight ender.
Tyson hit Ruddock with at least 30 full power low blows in the rematch. Ruddock retaliated with some brutal uppercuts. Khan is a warrior, shit happens. The only quitting I won't accept is if you flop on the ground and pretend to be flattened by a tap that wouldn't hurt a 3 year old.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 16:22
by tobyh5
JimStone wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 08:54 Reminds me of the man who had been an accomplished bridge painter all his life, but when he sucked one cock that's all people remembered him for.

It's a shame really because Khan is a warrior, just made a bad call last night.
Yeah we've all seen Play it to the Bone and heard the story from Woody to Antonio but it was bridge builder, not painter

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 16:42
by stujones
I think there are so many way we can look at it.

I shape alot of the blame for yesterday on Hunter. For whatever reason his advice between rounds wasn't of a man confident Khan could do it. He asked Amir on a few occasions if he wanted to continue regarding his elbow.....he should have told the ref "we'll give it 5 and ask Amir again".

However, Woodhall said a valid point "would Khan have quit if he was winning". People were right in saying Khan has never been outboxed. If far easier to be a warrior in a fight you're generally winning. This is first time Khan was hurt AND outboxed.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 16:52
by skanksta
DrDuke wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 04:19 He quitted, that's just f*cking obvious. However, I won't blame him for that, cause the fight was a clear mismatch, it even wasn't necessary to make.
Exactly.
He did quit.
That is fvcking obvious.
You can’t really blame him - he’s proved his cojones many times and - more importantly - it’s his career on the line.

People will forget, it’ll be a “controversial ending” and he’ll get one more payday. It happens all the time.

Khan has been getting in the ring with monsters for 15 years - so what if he took a lucky break and ran with it - he’s still a warrior.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 17:10
by JimStone
Just rewatched the fight. Khan has never been worked over like that before, body and head. Absolutely ruined him, far moreso than any of those one punch kayos.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 18:42
by Ricky
JimStone wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 17:10 Just rewatched the fight. Khan has never been worked over like that before, body and head. Absolutely ruined him, far moreso than any of those one punch kayos.
Indeed, he's mentally weak. Always has been. Couldn't take the fact he's was getting schooled for the first time.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 20:34
by MecnunK
If he had just stayed in there a round or two more Virgil would have pulled him out I think or Crawford put him to sleep but he did quit.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 20:59
by Stuarty
I just watched the fight back there... Khan didn't want anymore of what Crawford was dishing out! I'm a big fan of Crawford. He's a top class operator....

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 21:01
by oogiebe
Stuarty wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 20:59 I just watched the fight back there... Khan didn't want anymore of what Crawford was dishing out! I'm a big fan of Crawford. He's a top class operator....
No question about it.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 21:03
by Stuarty
RKY wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 18:42 Indeed, he's mentally weak. Always has been. Couldn't take the fact he's was getting schooled for the first time.
To be fair to him he's taken a fair few beatings before and still doured it out! The 10th against Maidana couldn't have been easy!,I don't like him and I'm glad he tasted defeat again but I do respect him....

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 21:09
by Ricky
Stuarty wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 21:03 To be fair to him he's taken a fair few beatings before and still doured it out! The 10th against Maidana couldn't have been easy!,I don't like him and I'm glad he tasted defeat again but I do respect him....
But he dropped Maidana and was obviously faster,
he showed heart but he had reason to, he could see the W with the finish line. He was also a big favourite iirc. I've came across folk like Khan before, very competitive when they think they are better, and quickly down tools when evenly or overmatched. Khan downed tools last night, no doubt imo.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 21:13
by Stuarty
RKY wrote: 21 Apr 2019, 21:09 But he dropped Maidana and was obviously faster,
he showed heart but he had reason to, he could see the W with the finish line. He was also a big favourite iirc. I've came across folk like Khan before, very competitive when they think they are better, and quickly down tools when evenly or overmatched. Khan downed tools last night, no doubt imo.
I agree that he definitely patched it against Crawford. He was being outboxed and that's probably the first he's experienced that in a long time. I knew Crawford would stop him but I thought Khan would cause him a few headaches beforehand with his speed. I thought Khan looked really sloppy yesterday. A few flashes of class but nothing to shout about.

Re: Amir Khan: "I'm a warrior!"

Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 21:19
by Stuarty
He's been a pro nearly 20 years now, to wait that long and fight a guy as talented as Crawford was just a complete balls up! Crawford is arguably his best opponent!

On the same note, I saw Brook saying the othe day he was coming for Crawford! He's better leaving that be! Crawford would slaughter Kell!