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Some saying it might not be a ped, but it’s showing it’s a banned substance. Meaning NOT ALLOWED!

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 20:12

punchoutsb wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 20:11

...since 1955...

Be sarcastic, but we live in the age of social outrage and SWJ media.

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm being honest. And if what you are saying could happen actually happens, it would ultimately improve the sport if criminal charges were filed. You better believe more would be cheaters thought twice about messing with their gloves or wraps after Resto/Collins.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 19:55

Saying they were both clear to fight?

If that’s true, this is typical UKAD. But I don’t believe VADA are like this. They would have informed WBC.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 20:15 Some saying it might not be a ped, but it’s showing it’s a banned substance. Meaning NOT ALLOWED!

Who are the some? If it was not a PED, I think Whyte would have been much more excited after the win. Pot wouldn't add up to much here. I hope it was something innocuous as I want to see Wilder vs Whyte.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 20:16

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 20:12
Be sarcastic, but we live in the age of social outrage and SWJ media.

I'm not being sarcastic, I'm being honest. And if what you are saying could happen actually happens, it would ultimately improve the sport if criminal charges were filed. You better believe more would be cheaters thought twice about messing with their gloves or wraps after Resto/Collins.

Funny you mention that. Resto collins was on my mind when I was posted before. If something like what I described would happen in America, our litigious society would be all over it. Everyone associated with the event would be sued and the public outcry and 24/7 news media would intensify it beyond belief.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 18:42 miller isnt a matchroom fighter? he certainly was working with them a bunch

Not that I ever heard. Definitely fought on his cards.

Andy Ruiz tweeted out, "I ain't going over to the UK for the rematch."

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 18:08 https://www.BS.com/dillian-whyte-tests- ... ce--141178

Multiple sources have confirmed that an "A" sample taken from Dillian Whyte tested positive for one or more banned substances prior to Whyte's July 20 fight in London against Oscar Rivas. Although Whyte is in the World Boxing Council Clean Boxing Program which is administered by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA), the test in question was administered by UK Anti-Doping (UKAD).

The positive test result is believed to have come back on July 17. A knowledgeable source says that it was reported to the Whyte camp (including promoter Matchroom Boxing) and the British Boxing Board of Control by UKAD prior to Whyte-Rivas. However, the BBBC allowed the fight to proceed as scheduled.

Under rules in place in the United Kingdom, Whyte has a right of appeal. UKAD takes the position that, until the adjudication process is over and due process is complete, there has not been a finding that a fighter is in breach of its PED protocols and no sanctions can be put in place by the British Boxing Board of Control.

Smh. I guess whyte should have known better than to try and fight wilder. Slim must be beside himself.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 21:31

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 18:08 https://www.BS.com/dillian-whyte-tests- ... ce--141178

Smh. I guess whyte should have known better than to try and fight wilder. Slim must be beside himself.

LOL! He was in rare form today. Last post I made to him was that "I guess OTO was right about you." LMAO! Last I heard from him.

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 21:35

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 21:31

Smh. I guess whyte should have known better than to try and fight wilder. Slim must be beside himself.

LOL! He was in rare form today. Last post I made to him was that "I guess OTO was right about you." LMAO! Last I heard from him.

He's gotten worse. All he talks about anymore.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 21:54

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 21:35
LOL! He was in rare form today. Last post I made to him was that "I guess OTO was right about you." LMAO! Last I heard from him.

He's gotten worse. All he talks about anymore.

A thread on AJ and he turned it into Wilder. He can't help himself anymore. He wasn't always like that. At least I don't remember.

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 22:01

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 21:54

He's gotten worse. All he talks about anymore.

A thread on AJ and he turned it into Wilder. He can't help himself anymore. He wasn't always like that. At least I don't remember.

Definitely not, the more wrong he is the more insane it drives him. Digging the proverbial hole deeper and deeper.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 22:55

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 22:01

A thread on AJ and he turned it into Wilder. He can't help himself anymore. He wasn't always like that. At least I don't remember.

Definitely not, the more wrong he is the more insane it drives him. Digging the proverbial hole deeper and deeper.

Seems true. So what do you think of the Whyte story?

Instead of super hw let's make a ped division

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 22:57 Instead of super hw let's make a ped division

Incredible isn't it?

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 22:57

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 22:55

Definitely not, the more wrong he is the more insane it drives him. Digging the proverbial hole deeper and deeper.

Seems true. So what do you think of the Whyte story?

I can barely watch the fights much less bother with this tiring shit. I think just about every major fighter in the last 30 or 40 years has taken something along the way. I don't think anyone who has ever been popped was innocent.

EO is handling this surprisingly well. As Dillians unofficial PR man *cough cheerleader* who has defended his honour at all costs on this board, this must be a tough pill to swallow.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 22:57 Instead of super hw let's make a ped division

They need both. Unlimited super heavy weight class and unlimited drug usage class.

Whyte was going around accusing other boxers of using drugs, just like Miller was doing.

BitPlayer wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 20:16

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 19:55

Saying they were both clear to fight?

If that’s true, this is typical UKAD. But I don’t believe VADA are like this. They would have informed WBC.

Ha ha! Too many questions!

anyone actually know what drug / drugs it was

Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 02:13 Whyte was going around accusing other boxers of using drugs, just like Miller was doing.

i am in shock second time....cheater ... he srolls in me eyes .... i am disapointed, shame you Dillian
for me second time ..... live ban ; sorry , go work somethink else - baumarkt, baustelle on German

This more or less

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑25 Jul 2019, 02:20 anyone actually know what drug / drugs it was

This is the key information currently left out. I'm sure it won't be an over the counter issue like his Jack3d stuff before as he surely can the that silly can he?

Everyone is purposely leaving the drug found out, perhaps until the B sample is tested. However, if you look at the Fury case it didn't come out for quite a while after the Hammer fight, actually managed to get the Klitchsko fight before it was revealed by UKAD if I remember correctly?

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 19:58

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Jul 2019, 19:55

Saying they were both clear to fight?

If that’s true, this is typical UKAD. But I don’t believe VADA are like this. They would have informed WBC.

"Clear to fight" doesn't address the situation.

Eddie Hearn is covering Matchroom's back and protecting his company's best interests.

Dillian Whyte is a free agent and only works with Matchroom on a fight-by-fight basis.

Eddie’s main concern is to justify Matchroom’s staging of the Whyte-Rivas bout, which was a PPV event in the UK. He didn’t disclose Whyte’s PED test failure to the paying audience and chose to stage the bout anyway. He'll inevitably be criticised for this.

I’m guessing that UKAD and the BBBofC’s rules operate under the assumption that a fighter should be deemed as being innocent until proven guilty (after due process has been carried out and legal protocols adhered to). And from that perspective, Matchroom’s prior knowledge of the test failure didn’t (technically) need to be disclosed to the paying British public, hence the nature of Eddie Hearn's tweet.

That being said, I am not sure if I would have paid to watch the Whyte-Rivas bout had this information been disclosed on the 17th July, since it would have clearly been a pointless fight that served no purpose whatsoever.

Eddie Hearn would have probably come under severe criticism from both the media and fight fans had he announced Whyte’s test failure beforehand and proceeded to stage the bout anyway.

In terms of Eddie Hearn’s actions, he would have been criticised regardless of what he did, so he chose the lucrative option that generated revenue for Matchroom.