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Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 06 Aug 2019, 15:48
by Ambling Alp II
elmersalsa wrote: 06 Aug 2019, 14:27
Ambling Alp II wrote: 06 Aug 2019, 10:44 I had no idea. You have only mentioned it about 10,000 times on this Forum, as well as previously on this thread.
And I will mention it again. So what's the problem?
The problem is you don't need to keep saying it.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 07 Aug 2019, 10:58
by elmersalsa
Lew Jenkins couldn't beat the great Beau Jack.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 10:50
by Ambling Alp II
They only fought once.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 14:48
by elmersalsa
Ambling Alp II wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 10:50 They only fought once.
I thought that they fought 3 times, sorry. Maybe I confused Lew Jenkins with someone else.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 15:09
by oogiebe
elmersalsa wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 14:48
Ambling Alp II wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 10:50 They only fought once.
I thought that they fought 3 times, sorry. Maybe I confused Lew Jenkins with someone else.
Ike Williams

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 16:32
by elmersalsa
Freddie Dawson couldn't beat the great Ike Williams. He fought Williams 4 times.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 18:31
by oogiebe
elmersalsa wrote: 13 Aug 2019, 16:32 Freddie Dawson couldn't beat the great Ike Williams. He fought Williams 4 times.
Lew Jenkins def couldn't.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 13 Aug 2019, 22:32
by scartissue
Kevin Finnegan went 0-3 against Alan Minter, despite Minter himself saying that he thought Kevin nicked the second fight. Also Shig Kaneko just seemed to have a hex over Flash Elorde, going 4-0 against Flash. Once even, while Flash was world champ.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 14 Aug 2019, 11:21
by Ambling Alp II
Kaneko-Elorde is interesting. Some of these aren't that surprising, the better guy simply won.
However it's surprising that Elorde went 0-4. I did notice that all four fights went the distance and were in Japan. You have to wonder if there was home cooking from the judges.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 06:58
by zuru
Jones vs Tarver

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 10:05
by elmersalsa
zuru wrote: 19 Oct 2019, 06:58Jones vs Tarver
In a way, yes. It's like Ali vs Norton.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 19 Oct 2019, 21:17
by zuru
Yep.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 21 Oct 2019, 15:45
by Ambling Alp II
Yep. Jones was almost as likely to have beaten Tarver in his prime as Ali would beaten Norton.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 03 Nov 2019, 02:42
by AntonioMartin
goose 5 wrote: 28 Jul 2019, 00:09 Bobo Olson Versus Sugar Ray Robinson.
You beat me to it!

Josue Marquez went 0-3 vs Esteban De Jesus...

And I think Alan Minter beat Kevin Finnegan three out of three as well...

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 03 Nov 2019, 02:44
by AntonioMartin
Didn't Dick Tiger lose 3 times to some Sonny West or the like???

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 06 Nov 2019, 08:20
by Matt W
Tyson would never have beaten Holyfield. Holyfield had his number mentally and physically.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 00:44
by AntonioMartin
Check out this guy":
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/288089

Cesar Mamani hasn't beaten him despite having had 4 bouts vs. him (Mamani is 0-6-1 however, so...)

There are several other f-class fighters in his log who havent beaten him in 3+ tries....

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 11 Nov 2019, 02:43
by AntonioMartin
Well look it here what I found!:
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/43071

Guy gets 3 fights, all against Jose Luis Ramirez (who should be in the IBHOF IMO)

And he lost them all!

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 08:21
by elmersalsa
Matt W wrote: 06 Nov 2019, 08:20 Tyson would never have beaten Holyfield. Holyfield had his number mentally and physically.
How about in 1988/89 timetable when the great Evander Holyfield just jumped up to Heavyweight and struggled with the likes of Michael Dokes and Alex Stewart? Would Holyfield beat Iron Mike then? He didn't looked developed as a full fledged Heavyweight, yet.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 18 Nov 2019, 11:47
by Ambling Alp II
Yes.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 18 Nov 2019, 12:29
by Onetimeonly
Of course he would, he wanted Tyson after dokes. Mike fan boys always point to trouble in fights like that and Cooper when his will and heart on display in fights like that is exactly why Mike could never beat him.

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 03 May 2020, 11:16
by elmersalsa
Deontay Wilder can't beat Tyson Fury

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 03 May 2020, 14:48
by zuru
elmersalsa wrote: 03 May 2020, 11:16 Deontay Wilder can't beat Tyson Fury
Amen

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 03 May 2020, 21:22
by Scypion
Kid Gavilan - Johnny Bratton

Re: No Matter How Many Times I Fight Him, I Can't Beat This Guy

Posted: 04 May 2020, 03:31
by Solis
Forrest couldn’t beat Mayorga.
Mosley couldn’t beat Forrest.
Oscar couldn’t beat Shane.

Think the last two there fought in the amateurs, too.