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Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 14 Sep 2019, 20:01
by Lackeos
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Sep 2019, 13:56
Younger guys with records like 3-20-1 go down quickly without significant damage. By the way, having a bad chin makes you less likely to get a brain damage.
How many brain damaged boxers can you list who have never been knocked out?
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 14 Sep 2019, 20:06
by oogiebe
Lackeos wrote: ↑14 Sep 2019, 20:01
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Sep 2019, 13:56
Younger guys with records like 3-20-1 go down quickly without significant damage. By the way, having a bad chin makes you less likely to get a brain damage.
How many brain damaged boxers can you list who have never been knocked out?
Ali for one.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 14 Sep 2019, 21:24
by boxing_rocks
Lackeos wrote: ↑14 Sep 2019, 20:01
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑13 Sep 2019, 13:56
Younger guys with records like 3-20-1 go down quickly without significant damage. By the way, having a bad chin makes you less likely to get a brain damage.
How many brain damaged boxers can you list who have never been knocked out?
Mago
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 15 Sep 2019, 00:29
by BeetleBailey
Lyle was a Heck of a story teller. They could have just let the cameras roll and I would have tuned in.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 04:28
by chinarich
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 04:42
by Verdi
oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Sep 2019, 20:06
Lackeos wrote: ↑14 Sep 2019, 20:01
How many brain damaged boxers can you list who have never been knocked out?
Ali for one.
Parkinson's isn't caused by head trauma. It's primarily genetic.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:01
by oogiebe
Verdi wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 04:42
oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Sep 2019, 20:06
Ali for one.
Parkinson's isn't caused by head trauma. It's primarily genetic.
You can't convince me it wasn't from his boxing career.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:02
by margaret thatcher
Can you do me a favour oog, can you go to the off topic section and make a post asking for reccomendations for books with detailed accounts/descriptions of warfare, like from the perspective of someone on the field of battle. Can be any wars, just curious about it. I can't post in OT
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:09
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:01
Verdi wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 04:42
Parkinson's isn't caused by head trauma. It's primarily genetic.
You can't convince me it wasn't from his boxing career.
Yeah I get that. Remember all those grueling bouts Michael J. Fox was in?
Oh....wait a minute
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:17
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:09
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:01
You can't convince me it wasn't from his boxing career.
Yeah I get that. Remember all those grueling bouts Michael J. Fox was in?
Oh....wait a minute
I'm saying in Ali's case. Silly boy.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:18
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:17
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:09
Yeah I get that. Remember all those grueling bouts Michael J. Fox was in?
Oh....wait a minute
I'm saying in Ali's case. Silly boy.
Why doesn't every Boxer have Parkinkson's disease then? A lot of 'em get hit a hell of a lot more than Ali did.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:23
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:18
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:17
I'm saying in Ali's case. Silly boy.
Why doesn't every Boxer have Parkinkson's disease then? A lot of 'em get hit a hell of a lot more than Ali did.
I've read reports in years past that had Ali suffering from symptoms of Parkinson's brought on by too many blows to the head.
I shall look further into it as it's been a lot of years.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:26
by oogiebe
Mechanisms do exist through which traumatic brain injury, or TBI, might lead to Parkinson's. Head trauma can increase inflammation, which plays a role in the disease.Jun 10, 2016
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:31
by Lackeos
Ali's parkinson's was genetics + head blows. If he didn't have parkinson's, he would've been relatively fine. Anyone genetically predisposed to parkinson's who has a moderately violent boxing career is going to be disabled in their twilight years. If McCall doesn't have a predisposition to parkinson's, then he isn't going to become Ali.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 22 Sep 2019, 18:35
by gilgamesh
Lackeos wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:31
Ali's parkinson's was genetics + head blows. If he didn't have parkinson's, he would've been relatively fine. Anyone genetically predisposed to parkinson's who has a moderately violent boxing career is going to be disabled in their twilight years. If McCall doesn't have a predisposition to parkinson's, then he isn't going to become Ali.
Parkinson's would've already been showing itself by now if he was gonna get it I believe. McCall that is.
That being said Pugilistic Dementia has gotta be a real possibility for him.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 02:26
by Verdi
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:01
Verdi wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 04:42
Parkinson's isn't caused by head trauma. It's primarily genetic.
You can't convince me it wasn't from his boxing career.
You know better than medical professionals. Fair enough.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 14:01
by oogiebe
Verdi wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 02:26
oogiebe wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 18:01
You can't convince me it wasn't from his boxing career.
You know better than medical professionals. Fair enough.
As I previously posted, I'm speaking head shots as a cause, not that Parkinson's is not genetic. Of course it is. SMH.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 23 Sep 2019, 16:20
by boxing_rocks
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 25 Sep 2019, 15:10
by dagilechia
I heard that McCall called out Andy Ruiz to fight him...
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 25 Sep 2019, 15:37
by oogiebe
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 15:10
I heard that McCall called out Andy Ruiz to fight him...
Maybe he should fight Briggs instead.
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 25 Sep 2019, 15:45
by greg
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 15:37
dagilechia wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 15:10
I heard that McCall called out Andy Ruiz to fight him...
Maybe he should fight Briggs instead.
no chance
..Briggs goes only after the champs..
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 25 Sep 2019, 15:47
by oogiebe
greg wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 15:45
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Sep 2019, 15:37
Maybe he should fight Briggs instead.
no chance
..Briggs goes only after the champs..
Oh yeah...I forgot!
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 14:45
by boxing_rocks
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 30 Sep 2019, 16:33
by jewboypgh
what state is allowing this?
SHAMEFUL!
Re: Good grief! Oliver McCall fighting again - at 54!!
Posted: 02 Oct 2019, 08:48
by jewboypgh
this guy had crack issues way back in 94 when he fought Lennox.
he was no spring chicken back then
allowing him to fight is despicable.