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Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 04:52
by Bleak
Switch hitter wrote: β13 Apr 2020, 04:02
Just watching Gary Sykes on Facebook.......
Howβs he getting on ?
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 10:11
by mickey1975
Bleak wrote: β13 Apr 2020, 04:52
Switch hitter wrote: β13 Apr 2020, 04:02
Just watching Gary Sykes on Facebook.......
Howβs he getting on ?
Heβs fallen out with rehab.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 12:07
by TheGoods
Just been looking at the Sykes stuff there. So sad. Only six years since he retired too?
The hardest game.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 13 Apr 2020, 13:34
by Bleak
mickey1975 wrote: β13 Apr 2020, 10:11
Bleak wrote: β13 Apr 2020, 04:52
Howβs he getting on ?
Heβs fallen out with rehab.
Oh no last I heard he was going to rehab, and had a job lined up when he completes his rehab
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 17:40
by rob h
Been watching it too. Not right is he.
He was 136'd other day and released.
They only keep you on a section if they think they can help you or your a danger.
He thinks he's fine as he was let out.
Definite personality disorder going on with him, which can't be treated, hence his release.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 17:43
by margaret thatcher
TheGoods wrote: β13 Apr 2020, 12:07
Just been looking at the Sykes stuff there. So sad. Only six years since he retired too?
The hardest game.
What's he saying/writing that's so wacky?
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 17:57
by gilgamesh
Meldrick Taylor's not dead yet right?
So there's your answer.
Punchiest I've heard anyway. I'm sure there's hundreds of guys who are punch drunk from the sport that we never even heard of. Which makes it even worse for those guys.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 15 Apr 2020, 18:14
by Bleak
margaret thatcher wrote: β15 Apr 2020, 17:43
TheGoods wrote: β13 Apr 2020, 12:07
Just been looking at the Sykes stuff there. So sad. Only six years since he retired too?
The hardest game.
What's he saying/writing that's so wacky?
Keeps,telling everyone there is nothing wrong, heβs not ill , but he keeps saying all the time repeating it . Oh and that he canβt wait to be back in pub with his mates, itβs not nice viewing, tbh. His family must be worried sick
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 16 Apr 2020, 03:11
by Old bones Ian
Seems like a manic episode, if he is using alcohol and/or substances then the mental health services might not touch him until he is clear of the alcohol or substances as it could be an episode lead from over use of them.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 20 Jul 2020, 15:43
by Greatwyrleyabc
Failed my brain scan when turning over in 2017, been coaching amateurs & got my BBBofC trainers licence to help hand up to pros in gym ever since. However been meeting with neurologists recenlty to get decision over turned, they failed me due to scan revealing a moderate sized arachnoid cyst on my left temporal pole. Most likley incidental finding & from birth. Has anybody heard of a case like this & got decision overturned?
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 20 Jul 2020, 16:02
by Onamastus
Greatwyrleyabc wrote: β20 Jul 2020, 15:43
Failed my brain scan when turning over in 2017, been coaching amateurs & got my BBBofC trainers licence to help hand up to pros in gym ever since. However been meeting with neurologists recenlty to get decision over turned, they failed me due to scan revealing a moderate sized arachnoid cyst on my left temporal pole. Most likley incidental finding & from birth. Has anybody heard of a case like this & got decision overturned?
People like Trevor Berbick and Bonecrusher Smith failed brain scans (in their 40s) but were allowed to box elsewhere. The board blocked Bonecrusher/Akinwande in 94 so he went to Germany where they were happy for him to box Axel Schulz.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 05:04
by dookus
Greatwyrleyabc wrote: β20 Jul 2020, 15:43
Failed my brain scan when turning over in 2017, been coaching amateurs & got my BBBofC trainers licence to help hand up to pros in gym ever since. However been meeting with neurologists recenlty to get decision over turned, they failed me due to scan revealing a moderate sized arachnoid cyst on my left temporal pole. Most likley incidental finding & from birth. Has anybody heard of a case like this & got decision overturned?
I know something similar happened to Kirk Garvey and he ended up seeing more specialists to get it overturned (what they found was clearly not relevant or was from an equipment error).
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 06:02
by hhaehre
gilgamesh wrote: β15 Apr 2020, 17:57
Meldrick Taylor's not dead yet right?
So there's your answer.
Punchiest I've heard anyway. I'm sure there's hundreds of guys who are punch drunk from the sport that we never even heard of. Which makes it even worse for those guys.
Wilfred Benitez isn't dead either and he's basically a vegetable, a really sad case.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 07:34
by stujones
oogiebe wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 18:14
Shhhh wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 16:04
I think Riddick Bowe James toney an Holyfield
Holy is fine. He always had that bit of a stammer. Seen many of his interviews on YouTube. Seems ok to me. Bowe went down quickly towards the end of his career. I'm still amazed at George Chuvalo considering the type of fighter he was.
Bowe seemed to just go noticeably different after the Golota fight.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 07:46
by stujones
Shhhh wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 18:55
oogiebe wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 18:14
Shhhh wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 16:04
I think Riddick Bowe James toney an Holyfield
Holy is fine. He always had that bit of a stammer. Seen many of his interviews on YouTube. Seems ok to me. Bowe went down quickly towards the end of his career. I'm still amazed at George Chuvalo considering the type of fighter he was.
Yeah and lamotta was ok at like age 90. Bowe seemed to get punch drunk and never had the punishment others had
It is odd and not an exact science, which sometimes makes it a hard sport to watch. Holyfield seemed to be slightly "punchy" in his early 30's - I remember Lewis alluding to this in the Unidisputed truth documentary..... yet he carried on fighting for over 10 years after and took some punishment, but seems to be about the same now as he was back then.
Whereas Audley Harrison was noting (in his retirement speech) evidence of cognitive decline - he always sounds sharp to me though - in a much shorter, less hard career.
Graham Earl sounded pretty bad towards the end of his career - hope he is doing okay now.
I always find it amazing that clearly "punchy" fighters can pass brain scans - there has got to be evidence of damage there.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 10:33
by whiskey
Greatwyrleyabc wrote: β20 Jul 2020, 15:43
Failed my brain scan when turning over in 2017, been coaching amateurs & got my BBBofC trainers licence to help hand up to pros in gym ever since. However been meeting with neurologists recenlty to get decision over turned, they failed me due to scan revealing a moderate sized arachnoid cyst on my left temporal pole. Most likley incidental finding & from birth. Has anybody heard of a case like this & got decision overturned?
Iain Weaver is one GB amateur i recall who couldn't get a British license due to cyst.
I think he ended up fighting abroad for a bit instead for an America promoter.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 10:47
by Onamastus
Bobby Chacon is without doubt the worst I ever heard. Magnificent little warrior but the battles took a horrific toll. He literally could not form words and when asked questions would smile but only be able to respond with gurgling noises.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 10:54
by banjo
Shhhh wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 18:55
oogiebe wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 18:14
Shhhh wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 16:04
I think Riddick Bowe James toney an Holyfield
Holy is fine. He always had that bit of a stammer. Seen many of his interviews on YouTube. Seems ok to me. Bowe went down quickly towards the end of his career. I'm still amazed at George Chuvalo considering the type of fighter he was.
Yeah and lamotta was ok at like age 90. Bowe seemed to get punch drunk and never had the punishment others had
I think it's incredible LaMotta pretty much kept his senses until the end and lived as long as he did, he outlived Sugar Ray by almost 30 years.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 13:04
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 18:14
Shhhh wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 16:04
I think Riddick Bowe James toney an Holyfield
Holy is fine. He always had that bit of a stammer. Seen many of his interviews on YouTube. Seems ok to me. Bowe went down quickly towards the end of his career. I'm still amazed at George Chuvalo considering the type of fighter he was.
Disagree on Holy, defo seems a bit slow and slurry to me, more than used to for sure and beyond just some normal slow talking guy levels. There's a vid of him and Bowe recently sitting around talking and it was a mess all around. Still physically looks great though. He put on some good cards with his promotion but not sure where he's at with that going forward
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 21 Jul 2020, 19:28
by Onamastus
margaret thatcher wrote: β21 Jul 2020, 13:04
oogiebe wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 18:14
Shhhh wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 16:04
I think Riddick Bowe James toney an Holyfield
Holy is fine. He always had that bit of a stammer. Seen many of his interviews on YouTube. Seems ok to me. Bowe went down quickly towards the end of his career. I'm still amazed at George Chuvalo considering the type of fighter he was.
Disagree on Holy, defo seems a bit slow and slurry to me, more than used to for sure and beyond just some normal slow talking guy levels. There's a vid of him and Bowe recently sitting around talking and it was a mess all around. Still physically looks great though. He put on some good cards with his promotion but not sure where he's at with that going forward
Those videos are a bit misleading. They are unintelligible around each other, but make more of an effort to enunciate in formal interview situations.
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 22 Jul 2020, 07:00
by TopGun
Kevin Mitchell doesnt sound too good does he...does it get worse with age out of interest?
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 22 Jul 2020, 17:45
by margaret thatcher
Onamastus wrote: β21 Jul 2020, 19:28
margaret thatcher wrote: β21 Jul 2020, 13:04
oogiebe wrote: β27 Oct 2019, 18:14
Holy is fine. He always had that bit of a stammer. Seen many of his interviews on YouTube. Seems ok to me. Bowe went down quickly towards the end of his career. I'm still amazed at George Chuvalo considering the type of fighter he was.
Disagree on Holy, defo seems a bit slow and slurry to me, more than used to for sure and beyond just some normal slow talking guy levels. There's a vid of him and Bowe recently sitting around talking and it was a mess all around. Still physically looks great though. He put on some good cards with his promotion but not sure where he's at with that going forward
Those videos are a bit misleading. They are unintelligible around each other, but make more of an effort to enunciate in formal interview situations.
That's true but these dudes are in full on word slurry salad mode, like they've just created a new language, would not want to trade brains with them
Re: Who r the punchiest boxers now
Posted: 26 Jul 2020, 09:30
by jwinhawk1
Ross Thompson...listen to this dude on Facebook sometime