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Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 12 Jan 2021, 22:41
by oogiebe
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 22:39
Id put things in a historical context and therefore tyson is his best win
The best fighter he beat was bowe 2
How can beating the best fighter he faced not be his best win? Maybe you're talking about your favorite win. I don't see it.
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 06:42
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 22:41
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 22:39
Id put things in a historical context and therefore tyson is his best win
The best fighter he beat was bowe 2
How can beating the best fighter he faced not be his best win? Maybe you're talking about your favorite win. I don't see it.
Qawi?
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 13 Jan 2021, 13:43
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Jan 2021, 06:42
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 22:41
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 22:39
Id put things in a historical context and therefore tyson is his best win
The best fighter he beat was bowe 2
How can beating the best fighter he faced not be his best win? Maybe you're talking about your favorite win. I don't see it.
Qawi?
Qawi/Holy was a great watch!
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 02:46
by AntonioMartin
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 18:41
Really? How come?
Its the win that defined his career...you have to remember, Tyson was still very good at this moment, and he was 4-0 with 4 kos after his comeback. It was also a very hard fought fight that took out a lot of what Tyson had left.
The Bowe win tome was almost as impressive as was the Moorer one.
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 03:30
by Onetimeonly
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 02:46
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 18:41
Really? How come?
Its the win that defined his career...you have to remember, Tyson was still very good at this moment, and he was 4-0 with 4 kos after his comeback. It was also a very hard fought fight that took out a lot of what Tyson had left.
The Bowe win tome was almost as impressive as was the Moorer one.
It was a mismatch, great event, not a great fight.
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 16:58
by AntonioMartin
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 03:30
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 02:46
oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 18:41
Really? How come?
Its the win that defined his career...you have to remember, Tyson was still very good at this moment, and he was 4-0 with 4 kos after his comeback. It was also a very hard fought fight that took out a lot of what Tyson had left.
The Bowe win tome was almost as impressive as was the Moorer one.
It was a mismatch, great event, not a great fight.
Holyfield-Tyson I? At the time, everyone thought it was a mismatch all right...and Tyson was going to kill Evander..
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 17:43
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Yeah a lot hindsight going on with tyson v holyfield 1
That was a massive win and upset. Holyfield was washed up and tyson had just knocked out bruno and seldon easily. Holyfield was stopped by bowe, had a heart condition, and looked lethargic against bobby czyz
Odds opened 25 to 1 and fell to 5 to 1 by fight night.
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 14 Jan 2021, 23:14
by DrDuke
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 17:43
Yeah a lot hindsight going on with tyson v holyfield 1
That was a massive win and upset. Holyfield was washed up and tyson had just knocked out bruno and seldon easily. Holyfield was stopped by bowe,
had a heart condition, and looked lethargic against bobby czyz
Odds opened 25 to 1 and fell to 5 to 1 by fight night.
Holyfield's heart condition turned to be OK eventually, he had been misdiagnosed with it.
And he battered Czyz in a quite brutal fashion.
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 00:33
by Onetimeonly
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 16:58
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 03:30
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 02:46
Its the win that defined his career...you have to remember, Tyson was still very good at this moment, and he was 4-0 with 4 kos after his comeback. It was also a very hard fought fight that took out a lot of what Tyson had left.
The Bowe win tome was almost as impressive as was the Moorer one.
It was a mismatch, great event, not a great fight.
Holyfield-Tyson I? At the time, everyone thought it was a mismatch all right...and Tyson was going to kill Evander..
I was talking about the actual fight. I never thought Mike would beat him anyway
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 20:07
by pound per pound
Best KO win = Mike Tyson
Best Win = Bowe II
Evander has a good resume of wins, that is balanced by a resume of losses and PED abuse.
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 03:55
by Ruthless-RKO
pound per pound wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 20:07
Best KO win = Mike Tyson
Best Win = Bowe II
Evander has a good resume of wins, that is balanced by a resume of losses and PED abuse.
A lot of his losses came after 2000 as well. When should he have retired?
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 06:20
by f read
I believe the Riddick Bowe second fight was his best win. The scene was bizarre with fanman crashing into the ring. My dad ordered one of those machines but never learned how to operate it. Yes Bowe may have been Holyfields kryptonite so when he defeated him that was a great and monumental victory for him.
Re: Evander Holyfield: Best win?
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 08:37
by Tuan_Jim
pound per pound wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 20:07
Best KO win = Mike Tyson
Best Win = Bowe II
Evander has a good resume of wins, that is balanced by a resume of losses and PED abuse.
Are you of the opinion that 90s heavyweights were PED-free bar Holyfield? If so may I interest you in a bridge I'm selling?
Holyfield entered the 21st Century with all of 4 defeats, 3 of them against men he also beat. 4th loss when he was 37 (!!) versus peak Lennox, narrowly.