You could count on one hand how many rounds Ruddock won in both fights. Competitive while getting his jaw broken and decked four, five times.DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021, 13:56The Ruddock fights were very competetive FFS.Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021, 13:53So what? Ruddock took tons of punishment as Tyson rolled through him, breaking his jaw en route to a UD.DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021, 13:27
As if only those qualities mattered.
Now wipe you glasses, read again and see, that no one even suggested, that Mercer would necessarily win Tyson. What's really laughable, that's your wet dreams of Tyson rolling over Mercer, who at those times was able to take tons of punishment.
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Cojimar 1946
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Why would Tyson role over the likes of Mercer? I think durable guys who can take his shots and fight back are going to be a big problem for Tyson. What does Tyson do when he's hit Mercer with his best shots and Mercer doesn't go anywhere?
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Bowe. He was the only man to beat him in the pros. Also took guts to take him on after the first fight.
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What he did to Mitch Green? To Ruddock?Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021, 14:19Why would Tyson role over the likes of Mercer? I think durable guys who can take his shots and fight back are going to be a big problem for Tyson. What does Tyson do when he's hit Mercer with his best shots and Mercer doesn't go anywhere?
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Ambling Alp II
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If Mercer fought like he was capable of, he would have given Tyson all that he could handle.
Tyson clearly was better than Ruddock both times, but they were not easy fights for him. He only lost one round in the first fight, knocked Ruddock down twice but one was a trip that the referee Richard Steele "missed". No reason for the fight to have been stopped. 2nd fight, Ruddock won four rounds. Tyson knocked him down twice. Ruddock had his moments here and there in both fights.
Mercer was a little better than Ruddock and certainly a lot better than Mitch Green. If he was motivated, (which he usually but not always was) Mercer would have given Tyson a lot of trouble.
Tyson clearly was better than Ruddock both times, but they were not easy fights for him. He only lost one round in the first fight, knocked Ruddock down twice but one was a trip that the referee Richard Steele "missed". No reason for the fight to have been stopped. 2nd fight, Ruddock won four rounds. Tyson knocked him down twice. Ruddock had his moments here and there in both fights.
Mercer was a little better than Ruddock and certainly a lot better than Mitch Green. If he was motivated, (which he usually but not always was) Mercer would have given Tyson a lot of trouble.
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How good was ruddock tho? I know theres the softening up theory but lewis took ruddock out easy. Tyson had all sorts of problems.
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021, 15:43 If Mercer fought like he was capable of, he would have given Tyson all that he could handle.
Tyson clearly was better than Ruddock both times, but they were not easy fights for him. He only lost one round in the first fight, knocked Ruddock down twice but one was a trip that the referee Richard Steele "missed". No reason for the fight to have been stopped. 2nd fight, Ruddock won four rounds. Tyson knocked him down twice. Ruddock had his moments here and there in both fights.
Mercer was a little better than Ruddock and certainly a lot better than Mitch Green. If he was motivated, (which he usually but not always was) Mercer would have given Tyson a lot of trouble.
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I don't think there's any question that Bowe was Evander's best win.
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mike woulda won a wide decision over mercer
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Ambling Alp II
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Mercer gave Holyfield a lot of trouble and probably should have got the decision against Lewis in good fights. If he fought that well against Tyson, he would have given him a close fight, maybe even had won.
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no, he shouldnt have got the w vs lewis , and he wouldve lost to tyson as well
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First qawi fight.
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Ambling Alp II
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My bad. Obviously another shutout for Lennox.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021, 22:34 no, he shouldnt have got the w vs lewis , and he wouldve lost to tyson as well
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I don't think doing well against Lennox is evidence a fighter can duplicate it against Tyson. Bruno was bossing Lewis years after Tyson pulverised him. I love Mercer but he falls short of the quality required to overcome Tyson.
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nopeAmbling Alp II wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 11:14My bad. Obviously another shutout for Lennox.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021, 22:34 no, he shouldnt have got the w vs lewis , and he wouldve lost to tyson as well
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Ambling Alp II
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You mean you think Lewis lost a round in that one? That seems harsh.
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If you say so bruh, glad to know we both saw the reality that Lenny won though 
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Tyson I
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Really? How come?
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Tyson 1
Not really any other comes close
Not really any other comes close
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Bowe II?
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Great win
But that is remembered for fan man not holyfield's performance
He opened a 20-1 dog vs tyson. People feared he was going to die
He kicked the crap out of him and stopped him. Tyson win was his pinnacle.
But that is remembered for fan man not holyfield's performance
He opened a 20-1 dog vs tyson. People feared he was going to die
He kicked the crap out of him and stopped him. Tyson win was his pinnacle.
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Who cares about fan-man, we're not talking about Holy's most popular win, but his best. Beating peak Bowe was a better win than a past it Tyson.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑12 Jan 2021, 22:36 Great win
But that is remembered for fan man not holyfield's performance
He opened a 20-1 dog vs tyson. People feared he was going to die
He kicked the crap out of him and stopped him. Tyson win was his pinnacle.
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Id put things in a historical context and therefore tyson is his best win
The best fighter he beat was bowe 2
The best fighter he beat was bowe 2