Re: I think Canelo is gonna have first a tune-up fight before he gets a top opponent
Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 07:57
Imo BJS vs Andrade should fight each other asasp i.e this year. The winner may get Canelo. 
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Re: I think Canelo is gonna have first a tune-up fight before he gets a top opponent
Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 08:00
Ryder or Smith would be good tune ups for Canelo.
Re: I think Canelo is gonna have first a tune-up fight before he gets a top opponent
Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 20:20
Re: I think Canelo is gonna have first a tune-up fight before he gets a top opponent
Posted: 19 Jul 2020, 01:17
"De La Hoya on Canelo Negotiations: You Have To Beat The Champ To Make Champion Money"
Finding an opponent for Canelo Alvarez these days resembles politicians trying to pass a bill in Congress: it’s a slow, excruciating, and divisive process.
What seemed like a promising list of fighters for Alvarez’s fall return, including top talents Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Billy Joe Saunders, has now dwindled down to the lowly crop of John Ryder, David Lemieux, and in the latest development…Jason Quigley, who, it should be noted, was pummeled and stopped by Tureano Johnson last year.
Oscar De La Hoya, the head of Golden Boy, which promotes Alvarez (53-1-2, 36 KOs), put the problem squarely on the bloated shoulders of opposing fighters and their greedy, Mephistophelean managers.
“Fighters these days they price themselves out because they don’t want to fight,” De La Hoya said on the recent episode of the SI Boxing Podcast. “They price themselves out because they have advisers whispering in their ears that they’re worth more than what they’re really are.
“It’s frustrating. It’s difficult, but like I said, we’ve been in this business for a long time. We know how to deal with teams, fighters, with managers, with everyone that is talking in the fighter’s ear. We’ll get this done. We’ve never failed anybody and we’ll continue to deliver the best fights possible.”
De La Hoya, 47, stressed that prospective opponents need to understand that the Covid-19 pandemic has thrown off the usual financial equations, which is to say, pay cuts are in order.
“The fact that you fight Canelo doesn’t mean you should be making triple or quadruple the amount you’re making now,” De La Hoya said. “You have to take into consideration the pandemic. It’s different times now and fighters have to realize that they have to take pay cuts.”
Moreover, De Le Hoya pushed back at the idea that any Alvarez opponent is automatically entitled to an outlandish payday, just by virtue of the fact that he gets to face the Mexican superstar.
“That’s what fighters don’t realize,” De La Hoya said. "You have to beat the champion in order to make champion money.”
Still, De La Hoya is hopeful that they will wrap up a deal in the next few days.
“We have pending meetings [with Team Canelo] this week,” he said. “We are working every single day day in day out to get this done… It’s been a very difficult process but we’re confident that we’ll have something in writing, something nailed down in the next few days.”
Finding an opponent for Canelo Alvarez these days resembles politicians trying to pass a bill in Congress: it’s a slow, excruciating, and divisive process.
What seemed like a promising list of fighters for Alvarez’s fall return, including top talents Sergiy Derevyanchenko and Billy Joe Saunders, has now dwindled down to the lowly crop of John Ryder, David Lemieux, and in the latest development…Jason Quigley, who, it should be noted, was pummeled and stopped by Tureano Johnson last year.
Oscar De La Hoya, the head of Golden Boy, which promotes Alvarez (53-1-2, 36 KOs), put the problem squarely on the bloated shoulders of opposing fighters and their greedy, Mephistophelean managers.
“Fighters these days they price themselves out because they don’t want to fight,” De La Hoya said on the recent episode of the SI Boxing Podcast. “They price themselves out because they have advisers whispering in their ears that they’re worth more than what they’re really are.
“It’s frustrating. It’s difficult, but like I said, we’ve been in this business for a long time. We know how to deal with teams, fighters, with managers, with everyone that is talking in the fighter’s ear. We’ll get this done. We’ve never failed anybody and we’ll continue to deliver the best fights possible.”
De La Hoya, 47, stressed that prospective opponents need to understand that the Covid-19 pandemic has thrown off the usual financial equations, which is to say, pay cuts are in order.
“The fact that you fight Canelo doesn’t mean you should be making triple or quadruple the amount you’re making now,” De La Hoya said. “You have to take into consideration the pandemic. It’s different times now and fighters have to realize that they have to take pay cuts.”
Moreover, De Le Hoya pushed back at the idea that any Alvarez opponent is automatically entitled to an outlandish payday, just by virtue of the fact that he gets to face the Mexican superstar.
“That’s what fighters don’t realize,” De La Hoya said. "You have to beat the champion in order to make champion money.”
Still, De La Hoya is hopeful that they will wrap up a deal in the next few days.
“We have pending meetings [with Team Canelo] this week,” he said. “We are working every single day day in day out to get this done… It’s been a very difficult process but we’re confident that we’ll have something in writing, something nailed down in the next few days.”
Re: I think Canelo is gonna have first a tune-up fight before he gets a top opponent
Posted: 19 Jul 2020, 01:35
Oscar De La Hoya’s claim that Canelo’s opponents should accept lowball offers because they have to “beat the champion to make champion money” is reminiscent of Eddie Hearn’s insistence that Dillian Whyte should have willingly taken a pay cut to face Anthony Joshua, due to the fact he should feel privileged to receive an opportunity to gain ownership of the “keys to the kingdom”.
It seems that Eddie Hearn and Oscar De La Hoya are pretending that the opponents for their most prominent stars should automatically accept any lowball offers they submit, solely for the sake of seeking sporting glory rather than being paid their financial self-worth.
However, fighters are known as “PRIZE” fighters, not “PRIDE” fighters. And you cannot pay the bills using praise and respect.
Anyone facing Canelo or Anthony Joshua is helping GBP, Matchroom and DAZN/Sky Sports generate massive amounts of revenue. So they deserve their slice of the pie.
And if they are not going to receive it, then they may as well bide their time, by facing easier opposition for similarly sized paydays, until they have earned a mandatory shot at one of Canelo’s or AJ’s titles.
We’re about seven weeks away from the September 12th fight date. And GBP still hasn’t found a suitable opponent for Canelo.
Most boxers would have struggled to keep themselves in shape during the lockdown, simply because they’re not as wealthy as Canelo. They cannot afford to own mansions that include fully equipped highly expensive tailor-made personal gyms.
So, who in their right mind is going to accept a small payday to face Canelo at short-notice, while also entering an unusually short training camp out-of-shape and ring rusty?
It seems that Eddie Hearn and Oscar De La Hoya are pretending that the opponents for their most prominent stars should automatically accept any lowball offers they submit, solely for the sake of seeking sporting glory rather than being paid their financial self-worth.
However, fighters are known as “PRIZE” fighters, not “PRIDE” fighters. And you cannot pay the bills using praise and respect.
Anyone facing Canelo or Anthony Joshua is helping GBP, Matchroom and DAZN/Sky Sports generate massive amounts of revenue. So they deserve their slice of the pie.
And if they are not going to receive it, then they may as well bide their time, by facing easier opposition for similarly sized paydays, until they have earned a mandatory shot at one of Canelo’s or AJ’s titles.
We’re about seven weeks away from the September 12th fight date. And GBP still hasn’t found a suitable opponent for Canelo.
Most boxers would have struggled to keep themselves in shape during the lockdown, simply because they’re not as wealthy as Canelo. They cannot afford to own mansions that include fully equipped highly expensive tailor-made personal gyms.
So, who in their right mind is going to accept a small payday to face Canelo at short-notice, while also entering an unusually short training camp out-of-shape and ring rusty?