Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

Joe Frazier
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Tyson Fury
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Onetimeonly
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

Post by Onetimeonly »

Aj/wlad was exciting, it would be just another good heavyweight fight in the 90's
mayorcurley
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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Fury studies Frazier-Foreman tapes and wins by decision or late stoppage.

Frazier is awesome, but Fury has too much height and weight advantage.
Ambling Alp II
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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If they fought 20 times, Fury would not stop him. He simply doesn't have the power nor is he aggressive enough. Scales and tape measures don't win fights.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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Ambling Alp II wrote: 28 Oct 2020, 10:43 He simply doesn't have the power
How he doesn't have power, if has been hurting and stopping opponents with decent abilities to take a punch?
Ambling Alp II wrote: 28 Oct 2020, 10:43 he aggressive enough
As if he fights in some single way.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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Ambling Alp II wrote: 28 Oct 2020, 10:43 If they fought 20 times, Fury would not stop him. He simply doesn't have the power nor is he aggressive enough. Scales and tape measures don't win fights.
Fury has stopped some pretty durable guys. There doesn't seem to be much evidence to support this view that he doesn't have the power to hurt Frazier. You brought up the Klitschko fight but that is hardly proof he cant hurt durable opponents.

Riddick Bowe was able to hurt Holyfield despite not being able to kayo the likes of Tony Tubbs. Jeff Wooden went the distance with Tua, etc.

He is also capable of fighting aggressively when he wants to like in the Wilder rematch.
Ambling Alp II
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

Post by Ambling Alp II »

Fury stopped Wilder one out of two. no other stoppages worth mentioning. Couln't stop old china chin Klitschko.
Tony Tubbs had a pretty good chin and Bowe was still getting better at that point in his career.

Sure you can take one fight out of a fighter's career that he should have scored a stoppage. Nobody scores a KO in 100% You have to balance it out an see if it's an exception or the rule.

It's pretty simple. Frazier has a lot more power and would land a lot more punches. He would win.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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Ambling Alp II wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 19:04 Fury stopped Wilder one out of two. no other stoppages worth mentioning. Couln't stop old china chin Klitschko.
Tony Tubbs had a pretty good chin and Bowe was still getting better at that point in his career.

Sure you can take one fight out of a fighter's career that he should have scored a stoppage. Nobody scores a KO in 100% You have to balance it out an see if it's an exception or the rule.

It's pretty simple. Frazier has a lot more power and would land a lot more punches. He would win.
The Klitschko fight doesn't raise Fury's legacy one bit to me. It was a joke of a fight.

A guy not fighting vs a guy barely fighting.

I respect Wlad, but that was the most chickensh*t performance by a long reigning Champion in the history of the sport.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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You box how your opponent allow you to. Fury did what he needed against Klitschko and he did enough to win. Klitschko wasn't ready for an opponent, who could impose Wlad's own fight on Wlad himself. Why should Fury do something else? Why no one else could do the same to Klitschko?
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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Agreed, It's always about your best "winning plan". And that was just what it took to be safe, and to score the "W".

Sometimes a smart fight....is also a very boring fight.


It's the dumb fighters who are good enough to be pretty dangerous to everyone... that USUALLY put our butts in the seats.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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Smoking Joe Frasier TKO-7
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

Post by Djanders44 »

Size in boxing (especially the heavyweights) does not impress me so much, and i'm a big guy, myself. I did some amateur fighting in my day. This middleweight, in the gym, was hell on wheels for me. He taught me a lot about size. This is a very interesting match up. I have to go with Joe. I think his speed, constant pressure, and work rate wins the decision for him.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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gilgamesh wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 20:38
Ambling Alp II wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 19:04 Fury stopped Wilder one out of two. no other stoppages worth mentioning. Couln't stop old china chin Klitschko.
Tony Tubbs had a pretty good chin and Bowe was still getting better at that point in his career.

Sure you can take one fight out of a fighter's career that he should have scored a stoppage. Nobody scores a KO in 100% You have to balance it out an see if it's an exception or the rule.

It's pretty simple. Frazier has a lot more power and would land a lot more punches. He would win.
The Klitschko fight doesn't raise Fury's legacy one bit to me. It was a joke of a fight.

A guy not fighting vs a guy barely fighting.

I respect Wlad, but that was the most chickensh*t performance by a long reigning Champion in the history of the sport.
Agreed. You have to be pretty desperate to try to make that win a big deal.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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margaret thatcher wrote: 08 Oct 2020, 18:22 Ya, it's a fair point. I know size only goes so far, but where are all these 5'11 195 pound on fight night types ? they should be taking over the hw division based on some of what i read!
Everything is open to debate. My guess is that some of them bulked to over 200 pounds, to compete as Heavyweights. (i'll leave the "How are they bulking?" to whoever reads this.) There's no minimum, but, realistically, 200 pounds is the lower limit accepted by the public and sanctioning bodies. The majority are probably playing baseball. The good money in the MLB started around the 60's or 70's, and it's a whole lot less likely they could get their brains scrambled. Some, no doubt, are earning their big bucks other ways, with opportunities for college increasing at around the same time frame, along with less poverty. ---Just my H.O.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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I like this matchup. The size is much different. Tyson Fury is 6 foot 9 and Frazier is 5 foot 11. However Fury is not a big massive puncher. He is decent though. Joe Frazier has much determination stamina and his left hook is deadly. Is that enough to defeat Fury? If Joe was at peak condition the Joe Frazier of March 8 1971 wins this fight hands down. I think one of the only heavyweights he does not beat on that night is George Foreman. I give Fury a good chance against many other versions of Frazier. It would be an interesting fight.
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

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Hurts me to say it, but Fury on points. Probably quite wide too
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Re: Joe Frazier vs. Tyson Fury

Post by AngryGoon38 »

Fury would likely win by UD. Too tall,quick,wiley, witty,crazy, proud,and game for Smokin Joe.
Frazier would give him a good go of it early though.
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