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Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 04:40
by Oiky
Tyson took the belt off a champion in his own backyard, that might be a one off thing but it's better than anything Joshuas ever done

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 05:45
by mickey1975
Oiky wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 04:40 Tyson took the belt off a champion in his own backyard, that might be a one off thing but it's better than anything Joshuas ever done
It’s not a one off. He’s done it twice.

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 05:50
by Oiky
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 05:45
Oiky wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 04:40 Tyson took the belt off a champion in his own backyard, that might be a one off thing but it's better than anything Joshuas ever done
It’s not a one off. He’s done it twice.
Yeah he beat wilder in his ownbackyard too,he is soon to rip them belts straight off Joshua

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 06:05
by keirw
MarkMcBurney wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 12:53 Saw a comment from Hearn online today who tries to argue that Joshua's record is miles better, and quotes Whyte, Breazeale, Klitschko, Parker, Povetkin and Takam as proof of this.

Is he right?

For me, AJ has a deeper record if you were scoring each opponent out of ten, however in my opinion Anthony Joshua does not have one elite win on his record, given that his best win is against the man that Fury himself dethroned nearly 3yrs prior.

Whyte, Breazeale, Parker, Povetkin and Takam are all a level at least below AJ and Fury for me.

Fury's most recent win, demolishing the hardest hitter of recent times who Joshua didn't fight pisses all over Joshua's record IMO. Add in the fact he was arguably robbed of a win the first time AND beat the 10yr reigning champ in his own back yard and its not even close.

Am I letting my dislike for Joshua cloud this or is Hearn, as usual, talking bollocks?
It was less than 2 years.

Not sure I buy into this idea that the Klitschko Fury fought was so much better than the one Joshua fought.

However, Fury got the win on the cards without taking any punishment and went on to shock everyone with the way he went about the Wilder rematch.

But Fury has fought a lot of guff, even once he reached the top.

Joshua's loss to Ruiz diminishes his record greatly and he may never really shake off that shadow.

The biggest name on either man's record will soon be each other, so soon enough this arguement will solve itself.

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 06:12
by JC
For the moment, I'd say it's pretty even in terms of record.

Obviously becomes a moot point once they fight each other.

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 06:21
by Oiky
J-C wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:12 For the moment, I'd say it's pretty even in terms of record.

Obviously becomes a moot point once they fight each other anyway.
Yeah it matters but kind of doesn't in a way. Obviously a man who's fought better men is likely to beat a man who's fought lesser men, but anything can happen in a fight, and one man might win one day and the other man might win another, all sorts of factors can come into play with winning and losing fights

Having said that,I've bin in Tysons corner from day1 and he would beat Joshua anytime they clashed in my opinion :box: too good, Joshua hasn't got enough about him to beat Tyson

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 06:22
by mickey1975
J-C wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:12 For the moment, I'd say it's pretty even in terms of record.

Obviously becomes a moot point once they fight each other anyway.
How? After Ruiz? And the utter destruction of Wilder, the mans still not right. AJ will unravel long before the first bell, and Fury won’t even be playing head games. He’ll just be being himself. As Clifton Mitchell said the other day, he has some weird aura about him, even Del didn’t get cheeky. Cunningham did, but Fury didn’t even understand what he was on about...,

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 06:23
by mickey1975
Oiky wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:21
J-C wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:12 For the moment, I'd say it's pretty even in terms of record.

Obviously becomes a moot point once they fight each other anyway.
Yeah it matters but kind of doesn't in a way. Obviously a man who's fought better men is likely to beat a man who's fought lesser men, but anything can happen in a fight, and one man might win one day and the other man might win another, all sorts of factors can come into play with winning and losing fights

Having said that,I've bin in Tysons corner from day1 and he would beat Joshua anytime they clashed in my opinion :box: too good, Joshua hasn't got enough about him to beat Tyson
You have. Our necks are on the line when they meet....

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 06:28
by Oiky
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:23
Oiky wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:21
J-C wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:12 For the moment, I'd say it's pretty even in terms of record.

Obviously becomes a moot point once they fight each other anyway.
Yeah it matters but kind of doesn't in a way. Obviously a man who's fought better men is likely to beat a man who's fought lesser men, but anything can happen in a fight, and one man might win one day and the other man might win another, all sorts of factors can come into play with winning and losing fights

Having said that,I've bin in Tysons corner from day1 and he would beat Joshua anytime they clashed in my opinion :box: too good, Joshua hasn't got enough about him to beat Tyson
You have. Our necks are on the line when they meet....
Can't wait mickey can you :box:

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 08:08
by mickey1975
Oiky wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:28
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:23
Oiky wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:21
Yeah it matters but kind of doesn't in a way. Obviously a man who's fought better men is likely to beat a man who's fought lesser men, but anything can happen in a fight, and one man might win one day and the other man might win another, all sorts of factors can come into play with winning and losing fights

Having said that,I've bin in Tysons corner from day1 and he would beat Joshua anytime they clashed in my opinion :box: too good, Joshua hasn't got enough about him to beat Tyson
You have. Our necks are on the line when they meet....
Can't wait mickey can you :box:
No, I’ll have murders on FB as well.

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 08:17
by Oiky
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 08:08
Oiky wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:28
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:23
You have. Our necks are on the line when they meet....
Can't wait mickey can you :box:
No, I’ll have murders on FB as well.
Causes mayhem doesn't it :lol: I'm not on fb but I'm sure it will be colourful on here

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 09:27
by JC
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:22
J-C wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:12 For the moment, I'd say it's pretty even in terms of record.

Obviously becomes a moot point once they fight each other anyway.
How? After Ruiz? And the utter destruction of Wilder, the mans still not right. AJ will unravel long before the first bell, and Fury won’t even be playing head games. He’ll just be being himself. As Clifton Mitchell said the other day, he has some weird aura about him, even Del didn’t get cheeky. Cunningham did, but Fury didn’t even understand what he was on about...,
I'm saying they are about even in terms of record up to now (Fury has two fantastic wins but not much else, AJ has a good list of wins and an avenged loss). Not that it's a 50/50 fight.

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 09:30
by mickey1975
J-C wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 09:27
mickey1975 wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:22
J-C wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 06:12 For the moment, I'd say it's pretty even in terms of record.

Obviously becomes a moot point once they fight each other anyway.
How? After Ruiz? And the utter destruction of Wilder, the mans still not right. AJ will unravel long before the first bell, and Fury won’t even be playing head games. He’ll just be being himself. As Clifton Mitchell said the other day, he has some weird aura about him, even Del didn’t get cheeky. Cunningham did, but Fury didn’t even understand what he was on about...,
I'm saying they are about even in terms of record up to now (Fury has two fantastic wins but not much else, AJ has a good list of wins and an avenged loss). Not that it's a 50/50 fight.
I disagree. Don’t see how you can compare Parker, Pov, etc to those two wins, abroad.

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 11:26
by Boxerbeetle
I dunno when the last “Who Wins?’ poll took place on here between Joshua and Fury (we’ve had so many...) but I’d be amazed if Fury wasn’t ahead by about 75% if we did another one today. That Ruiz loss really took the aura away from Joshua, imo.

Re: Best record: Fury or AJ?

Posted: 01 Feb 2021, 11:30
by mickey1975
Boxerbeetle wrote: 01 Feb 2021, 11:26 I dunno when the last “Who Wins?’ poll took place on here between Joshua and Fury (we’ve had so many...) but I’d be amazed if Fury wasn’t ahead by about 75% if we did another one today. That Ruiz loss really took the aura away from Joshua, imo.
I think the fact he avenged that defeat by using tactics almost impossible to beat Fury with strengthen the case.