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gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Feb 2021, 19:32

gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Feb 2021, 19:31

gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Feb 2021, 18:33

No they won't. Nobody even cares about that even now.

Its enough to give him an astrix for me. bit like jon jones in MMA, they will both be remembered as all time greats, just with a little * in many peoples minds. dosent help canelo that he went from a pretty normal looking 154, to an absolute Nugget 168 and kept his speed, and cardio.

In that case you gotta put an asterix next to every great fighter of the last 30 years or so.

While deep down i know nearly all of them are most likely on gear, If you never test positive or hide from tests then i can kinda embrace some ignorance and give you a pass. Kinda stupid sure, but thats kinda how my brain works, and im sure many others.

gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Feb 2021, 20:01

gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Feb 2021, 19:32

gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Feb 2021, 19:31

Its enough to give him an astrix for me. bit like jon jones in MMA, they will both be remembered as all time greats, just with a little * in many peoples minds. dosent help canelo that he went from a pretty normal looking 154, to an absolute Nugget 168 and kept his speed, and cardio.

In that case you gotta put an asterix next to every great fighter of the last 30 years or so.

While deep down i know nearly all of them are most likely on gear, If you never test positive or hide from tests then i can kinda embrace some ignorance and give you a pass. Kinda stupid sure, but thats kinda how my brain works, and im sure many others.

My brain says they're all on it, and I don't give a sh*t. I just wanna see fights.

It’s just a great shame that young boxers might feel they need to be on a cycle of substances like growth hormone and testosterone to compete in world class. Boxing is already a high risk sport, but with the side effects of anabolics the damage done to the heart, liver and kidneys, not to mention the suppression of the body’s ability to produce testosterone will be another health concern for down the road.

Jarrell Miller's reputation is in tatters due to his multiple failed tests. It's less about him testing positive for PED's, but more about his hypocrisy and hyperbole.

I don't think Canelo's reputation has been ruined. His career is doing fine. The mainstream media wrote about the positive test in 2018, but nothing since then.

ATM, IMHO, Jarrell "Big Baby" Miller.

claudevsq wrote: ↑16 Feb 2021, 06:43 ATM, IMHO, Jarrell "Big Baby" Miller.

Yes. I have 0 incentive to watch him now.
None. And that’s so sad.

I'm glad Miller's reputation has been ruined, unfortunately others got off with only a slap on the wrist...

Unlike baseball, the 90s-2000s boxers mostly got away with it

I think that "sports scientists" Wlad and Vitali benefitted the most, but like most, were never caught, other than Vitali's positive test that kept him out of the Olympics, which was so early most people forgot about it