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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 05:07 true, he was lucky to be around at the same time canelo was already a huge star.........dude is gonna possibly have made close to 200m because of cinnamon

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 05:11

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 05:07 true, he was lucky to be around at the same time canelo was already a huge star.........dude is gonna possibly have made close to 200m because of cinnamon

Agreed.

The absurd amount of cash that GGG has earned throughout his career due to Canelo is the elephant in the room that no one is willing to talk about.

Instead, people feel that the sport for boxing has been “disgusting” to GGG, and consider him as being a “victim”.

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 12:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 05:11

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 05:07 true, he was lucky to be around at the same time canelo was already a huge star.........dude is gonna possibly have made close to 200m because of cinnamon

Agreed.

The absurd amount of cash that GGG has earned throughout his career due to Canelo is the elephant in the room that no one is willing to talk about.

Instead, people feel that the sport for boxing has been “disgusting” to GGG, and consider him as being a “victim”.

GGG absolutely slaugherred Canelo in sparring in LA and because of that was ducked for two years by Canelo. So we never got to see GGG slaughter Canelo in an official fight. Astute ring observers knows GGG was not allowed to slaughter Canelo because Canelo means too much bank to too many people for over a decade of fortunes. So GGG had to play soft and make the pretender look like the fake king of this era. GGG was also cheated out of slaughtering Cotto, Martinez, Floyd at 154, Jacobs and Quillin two years earlier and also that lying fraud Ward.

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 13:11 GGG being cheated out of knocking out Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 08:15

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 13:11 GGG being cheated out of knocking out Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

bro (even) if you're right, didn't he basically cheat himself?

I mean, you're saying he agreed to go easy on Canelo, right? play it soft, Canelo gets to go two fights without getting a KO and GGG gets paid? that's your 'theory', right?

he took the deal, he agreed to go soft on Canelo. Dude cheated himself.

then he didn't even get the third fight that you're saying he was playing for. This guy's got some amazing intelligence according to you, one of the smartest guys in the boxing game, yet somehow he manages to put himself in a position where he throws not one, but two fights- and never even gets the promised payoff on throwing them?

man, he's made a sucker of himself there, right? i mean, damn, if he'd have tried he woulda knocked Canelo out FOR SURE bro GUARANTEED BABY.... damn, he coulda knocked Canelo out, but instead he deliberately didn't

we used to call that 'self-ownage', in earlier internet days.

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 08:58

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 08:15

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 13:11 GGG being cheated out of knocking out Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

bro (even) if you're right, didn't he basically cheat himself?

I mean, you're saying he agreed to go easy on Canelo, right? play it soft, Canelo gets to go two fights without getting a KO and GGG gets paid? that's your 'theory', right?

he took the deal, he agreed to go soft on Canelo. Dude cheated himself.

then he didn't even get the third fight that you're saying he was playing for. This guy's got some amazing intelligence according to you, one of the smartest guys in the boxing game, yet somehow he manages to put himself in a position where he throws not one, but two fights- and never even gets the promised payoff on throwing them?

man, he's made a sucker of himself there, right? i mean, damn, if he'd have tried he woulda knocked Canelo out FOR SURE bro GUARANTEED BABY.... damn, he coulda knocked Canelo out, but instead he deliberately didn't

we used to call that 'self-ownage', in earlier internet days.

The promised third fight is now on for Sept.
My theory is GGG was forced to play soft and lose to Canelo like Hagler was forced to do by Leonard for the jackpot. And Floyd did to just about all of his hired patsies.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022, 16:03 That's certainly my impression that in a lot of these 'fights' that the carefully selected opponent (hired patsy) that poses little threat and is desperate for the money etc is only there to feign hostility, show up, lose, doff their csps and leave to count the tax deductibles.

Perseus wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 23:53

squiggy wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 22:48 The Adalaide Byrd card was as black and white as corruption gets.

Wrong


The Adelaide Byrd card was typical of Adelaide Byrd scorecards
Even in irrelevant undercard fights she turns in scorecards that are perplexing to any other person that actually watched the fight.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022, 16:03

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 08:58

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑02 Mar 2022, 08:15

bro (even) if you're right, didn't he basically cheat himself?

I mean, you're saying he agreed to go easy on Canelo, right? play it soft, Canelo gets to go two fights without getting a KO and GGG gets paid? that's your 'theory', right?

he took the deal, he agreed to go soft on Canelo. Dude cheated himself.

then he didn't even get the third fight that you're saying he was playing for. This guy's got some amazing intelligence according to you, one of the smartest guys in the boxing game, yet somehow he manages to put himself in a position where he throws not one, but two fights- and never even gets the promised payoff on throwing them?

man, he's made a sucker of himself there, right? i mean, damn, if he'd have tried he woulda knocked Canelo out FOR SURE bro GUARANTEED BABY.... damn, he coulda knocked Canelo out, but instead he deliberately didn't

we used to call that 'self-ownage', in earlier internet days.

The promised third fight is now on for Sept.
My theory is GGG was forced to play soft and lose to Canelo like Hagler was forced to do by Leonard for the jackpot. And Floyd did to just about all of his hired patsies.

Maybe forced is going a little far, but who knows?

That's certainly my impression that in a lot of these 'fights' that the carefully selected opponent (hired patsy) that poses little threat and is desperate for the money etc is only there to feign hostility, show up, lose, doff their csps and leave to count the tax deductibles.

Quite often we'll even see the challenger thanking the title holder for giving them the chance to challenge.

Every now and then we'll see a 'live one'.

How exactly is all this supposed to be a sport?

Canelo didn't just fix both GGG fights, he fixes all of his fights. And he's not the only one.

Thankfully sometimes, as in the case of Andy Ruiz, a late substitute to replace the drug addled Jarrell Miller, we'll get a 'live one' that will surprise the titlist.

Similarly in the case of Marcos Maidana, who certainly gave Mayweather a fair bit to think about too.

Over the years we've all seen a lot of boxers do a lot less and still get the decision.

But strangely enough, never when they're fighting a Mayweather or a Canelo.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022, 05:24

Thomastearns wrote: ↑03 Mar 2022, 16:03 That's certainly my impression that in a lot of these 'fights' that the carefully selected opponent (hired patsy) that poses little threat and is desperate for the money etc is only there to feign hostility, show up, lose, doff their csps and leave to count the tax deductibles.

oh yes, that right there is just a perfect description of GGG

SportsRatings wrote: ↑04 Mar 2022, 19:10

Perseus wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 23:53

squiggy wrote: ↑23 Feb 2022, 22:48 The Adalaide Byrd card was as black and white as corruption gets.

Wrong


The Adelaide Byrd card was typical of Adelaide Byrd scorecards
Even in irrelevant undercard fights she turns in scorecards that are perplexing to any other person that actually watched the fight.

Isn't that a great way to establish "aw she's just crazy" so when a bad card comes from her in an important fight people say "aww she's just crazy" instead of "the fix is in"?

I have no idea what the truth is, but the fact that all her cards are nuts proves nothing. The fact that she got established as one of very few female judges, while being incompetent, does say a lot. It says that she's there for a reason, and it's not her ability--nor any effort to actually promote female judges (in which case they'd find someone competent). To me it says that she serves a purpose there.

Adelaide Byrd is the hired fix judge, she is untouchable because of her skin color. If she is criticized too hard, the accuser is a racist. Eugenia Williams was another black woman who did the dirty work for the promoters by fixing her cards. Black privilege is real in boxing..

bjornborgbook wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 13:11 GGG being cheated out of knocking out Floyd, Cotto, Martinez, Canelo was the same as if Ali had been cheated out of beating Frazier, Foreman.

Leonard being cheated out of beating Duran, Hearns, Benitez and Hagler.

Pacquiao being cheated out of beating Cotto, Hatton, Margarito, Oscar.

So GGG and boxing history was cheated out of seeing one of the best champions of all time get his best wins vs the best opponents. Because Cotto, FLoyd at 154, Martinez, Ward and Canelo all turned into cowards when it came time to fight Golovkin.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑05 Mar 2022, 14:58 The fact that someone as routinely and consistently incompetent or plain corrupt as Adalaide Byrd continues to get high profile fights without the entire boxing establishment protesting rather gives the game away doesn't it?

They don't care.

They don't see this as a sport, only some novice boxers and new fans do, and she is one of their useful business partners.