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polecateddy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2022, 04:40 I much prefer the Lewis era, but that’s probably an age thing on my part. But it’s a serious question as to whether Fury really has the right mindset of a champion. Would he for instance have maintained a decent reign in the peak Klitschko era? Wlad and Vitali are pretty smart and tenacious fighters. They’d have kept coming for him and maybe pinpointed the weak spots.

Kilburn wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 06:38 Fury might have done okay against some of the shorter fighters from better era’s, but the likes of Bowe and Lewis would have certainly embarrassed him.

I think it would be a bit daft to bring Fury’s name into any GOAT debate. He clearly doesn’t have attributes that you can call great, in the context of boxing history.

Fury is a very tall man who has enough skill and fitness to make his size work for him in what is undoubtedly a poor era for heavyweights. That’s not greatness.

Kilburn wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 06:38 Fury might have done okay against some of the shorter fighters from better era’s, but the likes of Bowe and Lewis would have certainly embarrassed him.

I think it would be a bit daft to bring Fury’s name into any GOAT debate. He clearly doesn’t have attributes that you can call great, in the context of boxing history.

Fury is a very tall man who has enough skill and fitness to make his size work for him in what is undoubtedly a poor era for heavyweights. That’s not greatness.

brilo33 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 12:56

Kilburn wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 06:38 Fury might have done okay against some of the shorter fighters from better era’s, but the likes of Bowe and Lewis would have certainly embarrassed him.

I think it would be a bit daft to bring Fury’s name into any GOAT debate. He clearly doesn’t have attributes that you can call great, in the context of boxing history.

Fury is a very tall man who has enough skill and fitness to make his size work for him in what is undoubtedly a poor era for heavyweights. That’s not greatness.

why tho bowe best wins against herbie hyde ,Golota , tyson would do a number on him Holyfield aint a heavy weight johny nelson would of done him

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 23:01 He'd do a number of any heavyweight in history with the possible exception of Vitali and Lewis.

He's bigger and heavier than any boxer in any other generation--fact. Yet is fast and elusive.
Plus he knows how to use his size well--especially against smaller fighters. Little men like Ali wouldn't stand a chance.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 13:54 It will be interesting to see how the fight with Usyk goes.

One thing I will say for Fury, is he has a good fight IQ, I expect him to try and use his size and weight to hold, maul and roughouse Usyk whenever he gets into range, and to potshot with the jab and right cross.

He's goint to have a massive size and weight advantage, although it was notable that Usyk didn't really look undersized against Joshua, though Fury is a much naturally bigger man than Joshua, who is pumped up with weights, and actually looks naturally fairly slim. Fury is a right big old lump./

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 14:07

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 13:54 It will be interesting to see how the fight with Usyk goes.

One thing I will say for Fury, is he has a good fight IQ, I expect him to try and use his size and weight to hold, maul and roughouse Usyk whenever he gets into range, and to potshot with the jab and right cross.

He's goint to have a massive size and weight advantage, although it was notable that Usyk didn't really look undersized against Joshua, though Fury is a much naturally bigger man than Joshua, who is pumped up with weights, and actually looks naturally fairly slim. Fury is a right big old lump./

aj would look a lot less slim with rolls and rolls of fat around his waist wouldnt he

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 14:09

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 14:07

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jun 2022, 13:54 It will be interesting to see how the fight with Usyk goes.

One thing I will say for Fury, is he has a good fight IQ, I expect him to try and use his size and weight to hold, maul and roughouse Usyk whenever he gets into range, and to potshot with the jab and right cross.

He's goint to have a massive size and weight advantage, although it was notable that Usyk didn't really look undersized against Joshua, though Fury is a much naturally bigger man than Joshua, who is pumped up with weights, and actually looks naturally fairly slim. Fury is a right big old lump./

aj would look a lot less slim with rolls and rolls of fat around his waist wouldnt he

His frame is considerable smaller than Fury's.

Trying to find some reliable stats - one of them says Fury is a 44 inch chest - which seems impossible, I'm a 42 and I'm tiny compared to Fury.,

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 16:37

brilo33 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 12:56

Kilburn wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 06:38 Fury might have done okay against some of the shorter fighters from better era’s, but the likes of Bowe and Lewis would have certainly embarrassed him.

I think it would be a bit daft to bring Fury’s name into any GOAT debate. He clearly doesn’t have attributes that you can call great, in the context of boxing history.

Fury is a very tall man who has enough skill and fitness to make his size work for him in what is undoubtedly a poor era for heavyweights. That’s not greatness.

why tho bowe best wins against herbie hyde ,Golota , tyson would do a number on him Holyfield aint a heavy weight johny nelson would of done him

Wtf

brilo33 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 13:18

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 16:37

brilo33 wrote: ↑11 Jun 2022, 12:56

why tho bowe best wins against herbie hyde ,Golota , tyson would do a number on him Holyfield aint a heavy weight johny nelson would of done him

Wtf

its easy to lol but why tho , yea i might be being a bit flippant with my comment

Spud wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 13:55 I have always been tough on Tyson and have never given him any credit, but, even with that said I honestly feel Joshua has faced tougher opponents l.

Fury (supposedly) is retiring too early.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 14:03

brilo33 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 13:18

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑12 Jun 2022, 16:37

Wtf

its easy to lol but why tho , yea i might be being a bit flippant with my comment

I thought you were joking?

Nelson beats Holyfield? Never

brilo33 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 14:09

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 14:03

brilo33 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 13:18

its easy to lol but why tho , yea i might be being a bit flippant with my comment

I thought you were joking?

Nelson beats Holyfield? Never

like i say i was beeing a bit flippant gets peoples view points out more , i was more talking about heavy weights tho , also was that pre peds holyfield

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 16:31

brilo33 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 14:09

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jun 2022, 14:03

I thought you were joking?

Nelson beats Holyfield? Never

like i say i was beeing a bit flippant gets peoples view points out more , i was more talking about heavy weights tho , also was that pre peds holyfield

Pre peds holy was far better imo but then again Qawi reckoned he was on something when he fought him so who knows.

I’ve took all sorts of gear myself and been very strong and tbh I fight a lot better and hit harder smaller and leaner. Not be the same for everyone but it is for me.