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In the bigger picture, second tier is like European champ standard, it's hardly an insult if you're not good enough to be world champ

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:21

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:01

Les Norton wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 17:49 The myth of Michael Conlan is exposed again.
2nd tier fighter that never lived up to the hype of his foul mouthed Olympic rant

crazy talk conlan is a fantastic boxer

Well, if Wood and Lopez knocked him out, Lara and Figueroa definitely would. So second tier, but proven to be there.

but kiwi why does that mean 2 rate because he loses close fights to top fighters mate, yes if he was a long way of wining that fight ok but he wasn't he will win that rematch he shouldn't of lost

He didn’t lose close fights though.

The Wood fight maybe. Got KO’d outta the ring in the end.

This fight, he started off well just 2 rounds. After that he looked like he was waiting to be KO’d.

Lopez gave him no chance.

The angles.

He took some decent shots of Conlan.

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:21

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:01

crazy talk conlan is a fantastic boxer

Well, if Wood and Lopez knocked him out, Lara and Figueroa definitely would. So second tier, but proven to be there.

but kiwi why does that mean 2 rate because he loses close fights to top fighters mate, yes if he was a long way of wining that fight ok but he wasn't he will win that rematch he shouldn't of lost

Lopez, Lara and Figueroa all can carry power late. That's why I figure Conlan as proven second tier. Nothing to be ashamed of, and he is proven, twice now. I admire his ethic after the Wood loss, that was as brutal a KO as they get. Since then he has had real spite in his work, admiral stuff, but he can't change out his chin.

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:21

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:01

crazy talk conlan is a fantastic boxer

Well, if Wood and Lopez knocked him out, Lara and Figueroa definitely would. So second tier, but proven to be there.

but kiwi why does that mean 2 rate because he loses close fights to top fighters mate, yes if he was a long way of wining that fight ok but he wasn't he will win that rematch he shouldn't of lost

lopez ktfo him in 5 rounds, it wasnt some razor thin loss. conlin wins a rematch? no way, he cant take the heat well enough clearly

conlin's not bad at all, but clearly not top level, hence the 2 brutal ko losses

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:35

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:21
Well, if Wood and Lopez knocked him out, Lara and Figueroa definitely would. So second tier, but proven to be there.

but kiwi why does that mean 2 rate because he loses close fights to top fighters mate, yes if he was a long way of wining that fight ok but he wasn't he will win that rematch he shouldn't of lost

Lopez, Lara and Figueroa all can carry power late. That's why I figure Conlan as proven second tier. Nothing to be ashamed of, and he is proven, twice now. I admire his ethic after the Wood loss, that was as brutal a KO as they get. Since then he has had real spite in his work, admiral stuff, but he can't change out his chin.

that's a fair enough kiwi man i respect you big time , and i agree he mike has to win to night to get back in the elite of division tonight, just i dont think there is that much between them

Lopez has Naseem Hamed vibes.

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:40

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:35

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:25
but kiwi why does that mean 2 rate because he loses close fights to top fighters mate, yes if he was a long way of wining that fight ok but he wasn't he will win that rematch he shouldn't of lost

Lopez, Lara and Figueroa all can carry power late. That's why I figure Conlan as proven second tier. Nothing to be ashamed of, and he is proven, twice now. I admire his ethic after the Wood loss, that was as brutal a KO as they get. Since then he has had real spite in his work, admiral stuff, but he can't change out his chin.

that's a fair enough kiwi man i respect you big time , and i agree he mike has to win to night to get back in the elite of division tonight, just i dont think there is that much between them

For sure it's doable. I just watched Leigh Wood pull off an almost perfect 12 rounds to the guy who brutally knocked him out last time. And not only that, Lara came in nearly a division heavier
So Conlan definitely has the skill set, but one solid punch... And Wood took a couple of those tonight.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:44

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:40

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:35
Lopez, Lara and Figueroa all can carry power late. That's why I figure Conlan as proven second tier. Nothing to be ashamed of, and he is proven, twice now. I admire his ethic after the Wood loss, that was as brutal a KO as they get. Since then he has had real spite in his work, admiral stuff, but he can't change out his chin.

that's a fair enough kiwi man i respect you big time , and i agree he mike has to win to night to get back in the elite of division tonight, just i dont think there is that much between them

For sure it's doable. I just watched Leigh Wood pull off an almost perfect 12 rounds to the guy who brutally knocked him out last time. And not only that, Lara came in nearly a division heavier
So Conlan definitely has the skill set, but one solid punch... And Wood took a couple of those tonight.

conlan should of beat wood i think

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:01

Les Norton wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 17:49 The myth of Michael Conlan is exposed again.
2nd tier fighter that never lived up to the hype of his foul mouthed Olympic rant

crazy talk conlan is a fantastic boxer

No he isn’t

Les Norton wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:48

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:01

Les Norton wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 17:49 The myth of Michael Conlan is exposed again.
2nd tier fighter that never lived up to the hype of his foul mouthed Olympic rant

crazy talk conlan is a fantastic boxer

No he isn’t

fair enough

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:47

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:44

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:40

that's a fair enough kiwi man i respect you big time , and i agree he mike has to win to night to get back in the elite of division tonight, just i dont think there is that much between them

For sure it's doable. I just watched Leigh Wood pull off an almost perfect 12 rounds to the guy who brutally knocked him out last time. And not only that, Lara came in nearly a division heavier
So Conlan definitely has the skill set, but one solid punch... And Wood took a couple of those tonight.

conlan should of beat wood i think

yep. Wood pulled that back from the arms of defeat. But I still would have given Wood the edge in the rematch - knowing he could take all of Conlan's shots, and still stop him is a huge confidence to go in with.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:51

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:47

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:44
For sure it's doable. I just watched Leigh Wood pull off an almost perfect 12 rounds to the guy who brutally knocked him out last time. And not only that, Lara came in nearly a division heavier
So Conlan definitely has the skill set, but one solid punch... And Wood took a couple of those tonight.

conlan should of beat wood i think

yep. Wood pulled that back from the arms of defeat. But I still would have given Wood the edge in the rematch - knowing he could take all of Conlan's shots, and still stop him is a huge confidence to go in with.

conlan had wood rocking , but didn't finish him, wood took him out thats the game of course deepens how you see the fight , also i see that as the top fight

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:35

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:21
Well, if Wood and Lopez knocked him out, Lara and Figueroa definitely would. So second tier, but proven to be there.

but kiwi why does that mean 2 rate because he loses close fights to top fighters mate, yes if he was a long way of wining that fight ok but he wasn't he will win that rematch he shouldn't of lost

Lopez, Lara and Figueroa all can carry power late. That's why I figure Conlan as proven second tier. Nothing to be ashamed of, and he is proven, twice now. I admire his ethic after the Wood loss, that was as brutal a KO as they get. Since then he has had real spite in his work, admiral stuff, but he can't change out his chin.

there you go bang on kiwi man i missed the fight conlan diddnt make it yes a good amutre boxer but not a top pro level boxer ,European level at best

Monster KO by Lopez, that same right uppercut that rocked Conlan earlier in the fight, Conlan elected to trade and fight aggressively and he won a couple rounds, landed some eye catching shots but Lopez was landing harder punches, lunges in like a novice but still gets purchase on his punches, Conlan showed serious stones to try fight back and sat down on his shots but that KO in the 5th was a sleeper, continue to be impressed by Lopez

handsofstone wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 21:03 Monster KO by Lopez, that same right uppercut that rocked Conlan earlier in the fight, Conlan elected to trade and fight aggressively and he won a couple rounds, landed some eye catching shots but Lopez was landing harder punches, lunges in like a novice but still gets purchase on his punches, Conlan showed serious stones to try fight back and sat down on his shots but that KO in the 5th was a sleeper, continue to be impressed by Lopez

handsofstone your man who has seen loads a fights do you think conlan left it to late to turn pro , i think amutures really want to be going pro by 26 age

I think Conlan’s big chance was against Wood but he put too much into trying to stop him after the early rounds & had nothing left by the late rounds & ultimately got knocked out as much as a result of been exhausted then the power of the shot.

I can’t see a way that he could’ve won last night. With the pace Lopez was fighting at & how little effect Conlan’s shots were having on him made Conlan fight for every second of every round. I don’t think there’s anything he could’ve done to win that fight. Lopes looks almost superhuman. Eats flush shots for fun & just keeps coming.

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:15

samwbr wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 19:08 Not top level. No shame in that.

still waiting for that , if he wins tonight in style what are you expecting

He got put to sleep again. He's slick and brave but seems not to be hard enough against the top lads in the division.

brilo33 wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 21:09

handsofstone wrote: ↑27 May 2023, 21:03 Monster KO by Lopez, that same right uppercut that rocked Conlan earlier in the fight, Conlan elected to trade and fight aggressively and he won a couple rounds, landed some eye catching shots but Lopez was landing harder punches, lunges in like a novice but still gets purchase on his punches, Conlan showed serious stones to try fight back and sat down on his shots but that KO in the 5th was a sleeper, continue to be impressed by Lopez

handsofstone your man who has seen loads a fights do you think conlan left it to late to turn pro , i think amutures really want to be going pro by 26 age

I'm no really sure Brilo, I couldn't even tell you how old Conlan is, it's like he's all of a sudden found that exciting fan friendly style but it's at world level and he's vulnerable

His brother fought the same way, took a lot of big shots.

I thought the fight was class while it lasted. Quality boxing!

I found Conlan up to the Wood fight underwhelming and a bit boring to watch and thought he'd bore his way to a world title one day.

But against Wood and Lopez he's seemed to take more risks and the fights have been great spectacles but horrific endings for him.

Conlan has very good basics, accurate and fast, but defensively he eats too much leather, doesn't hit hard enough and I think his engine is suspect for his style.

Typical Booth trained fighter.

samwbr wrote: ↑28 May 2023, 04:04 His brother fought the same way, took a lot of big shots.

Nah come on mate, they’re chalk and cheese. Vastly different styles

Just caught up. Conlan is maybe the greatest example ever of a good Am not making a good pro. He’s got the foot movement, the switching, the speed and the boxing brain. He doesn’t have the chin or a 12 round gas tank or the power.

Lopez throws every dig like superman, them crazy lunges look as if they should have nothing on them but they were clearly powerful. The way he dives makes it difficult to time him on the way in and that’s one of the reasons Conlan’s counters weren’t doing as much as they should have.


Wood Lopez next please, I’d buy a ticket for that wherever it is

Delta Jay wrote: ↑28 May 2023, 06:41

samwbr wrote: ↑28 May 2023, 04:04 His brother fought the same way, took a lot of big shots.

Nah come on mate, they’re chalk and cheese. Vastly different styles

O mean that they both have a reckless streak and it counts against them.