BoxRec

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 12:14 CBS is woeful. I'll always pick against him from here on out as long as he is at Euro level and pushing on to fringe world level. Masternak is a solid Euro operator and might think Christmas has come early in there with CBS.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 12:14 CBS is woeful. I'll always pick against him from here on out as long as he is at Euro level and pushing on to fringe world level. Masternak is a solid Euro operator and might think Christmas has come early in there with CBS.

jwfg wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 13:03

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 12:14 CBS is woeful. I'll always pick against him from here on out as long as he is at Euro level and pushing on to fringe world level. Masternak is a solid Euro operator and might think Christmas has come early in there with CBS.

Did you pick Okolie to beat him?

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 14:33

jwfg wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 13:03

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 12:14 CBS is woeful. I'll always pick against him from here on out as long as he is at Euro level and pushing on to fringe world level. Masternak is a solid Euro operator and might think Christmas has come early in there with CBS.

Did you pick Okolie to beat him?

Yes, I bet on CBS there too. Mainly because Okolie is so bad and I thought CBS was the clear better inside fighter and Okolie would get points taken off. CBS also had the benefit of Shane who had completely analysed Okolie for a long time as his trainer. I just CBS is very beatable. He's looked poor in several showings. Rigid and stiff. Game as a badger though. Masternak wins this for me.

The Gratest wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 06:34 I don't think Masternak's been eating properly. Look at that, there's absolutely no 'Hmmnnnnggghhhf!' effort at all.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 19:14

The Gratest wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 06:34 I don't think Masternak's been eating properly. Look at that, there's absolutely no 'Hmmnnnnggghhhf!' effort at all.

not a good sign, might be struggling to make weight. defo even more confident in cbs now

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023, 17:59 ya, masternak is the trademark solid operator who is usually competitive but is going to lose every time he steps up to a fight like this. a bit like martin murray, though murray had more success in his bigger fights than mast has.

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023, 18:08

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023, 17:59 ya, masternak is the trademark solid operator who is usually competitive but is going to lose every time he steps up to a fight like this. a bit like martin murray, though murray had more success in his bigger fights than mast has.

I agree mags. I'm not what a couple of the posters have been smoking when the say CBS ain't a top ten cruiserweight. I can't make a case for Masternak to win and he hasn't won outside Poland for six years.

I find the BoxRec fight ratings to be quite revealing. This is four star fight. Masternak has contested three such fights in his career and lost them all. CBS has fought one four star fight and won it, last time out.

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 03:37 Why is this a Sunday show? Is it in the afternoon?

wrighty wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023, 21:06

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023, 18:08

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023, 17:59 ya, masternak is the trademark solid operator who is usually competitive but is going to lose every time he steps up to a fight like this. a bit like martin murray, though murray had more success in his bigger fights than mast has.

I agree mags. I'm not what a couple of the posters have been smoking when the say CBS ain't a top ten cruiserweight. I can't make a case for Masternak to win and he hasn't won outside Poland for six years.

I find the BoxRec fight ratings to be quite revealing. This is four star fight. Masternak has contested three such fights in his career and lost them all. CBS has fought one four star fight and won it, last time out.

How does the star system work?

jwfg wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 04:50

wrighty wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023, 21:06

jwfg wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023, 18:08

I agree mags. I'm not what a couple of the posters have been smoking when the say CBS ain't a top ten cruiserweight. I can't make a case for Masternak to win and he hasn't won outside Poland for six years.

I find the BoxRec fight ratings to be quite revealing. This is four star fight. Masternak has contested three such fights in his career and lost them all. CBS has fought one four star fight and won it, last time out.

How does the star system work?

The better the fight the more stars. See below.

Bout Star Ratings
All bouts are rated with 0 to 5 stars.

Men

5 stars = both opponents have 279 rating points at least ~ best 100 boxers
4 stars = both opponents have 122 rating points at least ~ best 300 boxers
3 stars = both opponents have 40.5 rating points at least ~ best 900 boxers
2 stars = both opponents have 5.92 rating points at least ~ best 2700 boxers
1 stars = both opponents have 0.428 rating points at least = best 8100 boxers
0 stars = one opponents has not even 0.428 rating points at least = not rated boxers
Women

5 stars = both opponents have 12.2 rating points at least ~ best 50 boxers
4 stars = both opponents have 6.15 rating points at least ~ best 100 boxers
3 stars = both opponents have 2.20 rating points at least ~ best 200 boxers
2 stars = both opponents have 0.554 rating points at least ~ best 400 boxers
1 stars = both opponents have 0.023 rating points at least = best 800 boxer
0 stars = one opponents has not even 0.023 rating points at least = not rated boxers

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 08:15 The Masternak that went hard rounds with Bellew would likely run through Smith, but that was 8 years ago. Smith should win this one with relative ease.

Smith is vulnerable though, but as he has proven many times in the past he gets through it.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 09:15

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 08:15 The Masternak that went hard rounds with Bellew would likely run through Smith, but that was 8 years ago. Smith should win this one with relative ease.

Smith is vulnerable though, but as he has proven many times in the past he gets through it.

Masternak still looked decent in his last couple of fights. His last one was over a year ago though but if he retains the same level, CBS is in trouble here for me.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 10:17 How can anyone not like CBS? Sure, not the best boxer, not the strongest puncher etc but decent all around and seems like a sweet guy who has worked hard and had a bit of luck.

maverick23 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 03:53

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 03:37 Why is this a Sunday show? Is it in the afternoon?

Bournemouth are playing away on the Saturday so would have impacted tickets if it were on the Saturday.