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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 16:35
by dr_devious
Kilburn wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 06:28
Lol Dubois just can’t get a break on this site. Nearly everyone predicted Hrgovic would take him to the cleaners, then when Dubois beats the living shit out of the guy, all attention turns to how Joshua (far from unbeatable, often tentative against someone half decent), is just going to turn up and decapitate him.
Rooting for Dubois all the way.
You do know he decapitated the non-boxer Ngannou in his last fight.................
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 16:39
by SeanBrennan
I really Like DDD but think this is an easy AJ win now.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 17:04
by Giancarlo
That was a great upset win for Dubois; most of us picked Hrgovic to win convincingly so we've got to give DDD some serious credit.
He deserves a big fight on the back of that outing.
I do agree with those who think AJ will win if they fight though. If Joshua can land with the ease Hrgovic was able to in the first couple of rounds the other day Dubois will be in very deep trouble. AJ has faults as we all know but I can't see him gassing quite as easily as the big Croatian did.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 17:05
by Kilburn
It’s not that I can’t see what others can - Joshua going out there being sharp and assertive, finding the target, beating Dubois to the punch etc.
But Dubois brings more than just size and strength to the table, and Joshua is certainly NOT the complete package himself.
For me it’s a very interesting match up, particularly in light of DDD’s last two brutal performances. Mentally he appears to have risen a couple of notches, which he certainly needed to.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 17:07
by Ruthless-RKO
Hate dirty fighters.
He’ll end up pissinh someone off and get sparked
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 17:15
by ironbeard
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 17:07
Hate dirty fighters.
He’ll end up pissinh someone off and get sparked
I agree.
Dubois got away with everything yesterday. People claim Hrgovic gassed. Repeated headbutts and low blows will do that to you. Of course, if the ref aint calling
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 17:25
by Kilburn
The 100 punches to the head likely didn’t help either.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 17:39
by jamesmcdonnell
Kilburn wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 17:25
The 100 punches to the head likely didn’t help either.
He started shipping lots of shots from round four onward, he was in control first 3, though it was competitive, them began to slow and throw less shots, by the 5th, he looked totally spent and was taking more and more shots.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 02 Jun 2024, 17:43
by jamesmcdonnell
Kilburn wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 17:05
It’s not that I can’t see what others can - Joshua going out there being sharp and assertive, finding the target, beating Dubois to the punch etc.
But Dubois brings more than just size and strength to the table, and Joshua is certainly NOT the complete package himself.
For me it’s a very interesting match up, particularly in light of DDD’s last two brutal performances. Mentally he appears to have risen a couple of notches, which he certainly needed to.
All abhout levels.
Joshua has learnt to box aggressively a lot better, and manage his own stamina issues better, I think he would prevail, but hey all conjecture.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 00:19
by margaret thatcher
Kilburn wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 06:28
Lol Dubois just can’t get a break on this site. Nearly everyone predicted Hrgovic would take him to the cleaners, then when Dubois beats the living shit out of the guy, all attention turns to how Joshua (far from unbeatable, often tentative against someone half decent), is just going to turn up and decapitate him.
Rooting for Dubois all the way.
i mean aj isnt hrgovic, i dont see how dubois beating hrg obligates people to see aj-dubs as some kind of hard to split them fight. with josh and dubs being big hitters whove both been stopped before, it's also quite feasible that whoever wins will do so with a big ending
dubs is a strong guy who keeps bringing the pressure. but he was getting teed off on for several rounds, by the punch joshua throws best (and much harder than hrg does). i thought he looked limited much of the time, but at that level his strength and persistence prevailed eventually. it's not some huge mismatch and dan cant be ruled out, because we've seen aj broken before and dubs is a powerful guy. but i think joshua has more to work with than dubois and that stylistically things work better for him too
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 01:07
by Kilburn
Nobody is obliged to see anything, Joshua is a rightful favourite. But the way some folk go on about him, you’d think he didn’t have his own ceiling, and that he’d been boxing top level guys recently.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 02:28
by Ruthless-RKO
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 17:39
Kilburn wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 17:25
The 100 punches to the head likely didn’t help either.
He started shipping lots of shots from round four onward, he was in control first 3, though it was competitive, them began to slow and throw less shots, by the 5th, he looked totally spent and was taking more and more shots.
That’s true.. he was in control.. ahead.. putting together the better shots..
I mean in boxing.. if you can get away with dirty tactics then why not..
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 03:03
by tonyevs
ironbeard wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 06:23
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑02 Jun 2024, 06:14
.. that is not to ignore that the 26 year old is a bit of a monster and he is improving.
The experience Dubois has gained from the Joyce, Usyk, Miller and now Hrgovic fights could prove the making of him going forward. Still in his mid 20`s when most others are almost a decade older, he could find himself with all the knowledge of the game and himself to reign supreme. Questions have been asked of him - and his last couple of wins could be his response to that.
Unfortunately, I don`t think thats Dubois character. I think when the going gets tough he looks for a way out again.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 05:00
by BigDoofus
A very young Dubois was rumoured to have floored Joshua in sparring.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 05:31
by JamesPhilips
BigDoofus wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 05:00
A very young Dubois was rumoured to have floored Joshua in sparring.
Everyone that’s sparred Joshua seems to have dropped him
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 05:35
by Coco
Dubois is def improving and showed some good defensive skills after an open door first round.
Nevertheless his defense was still leaky at times after the first round.
If he gives AJ those chances, everyone will be going to bed early.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 13:40
by MasterG
Fight date possibly September at Wembley as talks have begun. I think this is a makeable fight really. I'm postponing my purchase of a ticket to Joyce v Chisora in favour of this one in September so I hope it comes off.
Imo it's not a certain that AJ can beat DD, and I think it's a decent fight.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 13:46
by ironbeard
MasterG wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 13:40
Fight date possibly September at Wembley as talks have begun. I think this is a makeable fight really. I'm postponing my purchase of a ticket to Joyce v Chisora in favour of this one in September so I hope it comes off.
Imo it's not a certain that AJ can beat DD, and I think it's a decent fight.
DEFINITELY not a walkover. Dubois is a huge young lion who has not reached his potential and is improving.
I like where AJ is at right now though. A Dubois W would be a big upset.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 14:27
by deadpan
I think the notion that AJ is back in beast mode is a tad fanciful based on Wallin offering nothing and Ngannou being clearly clueless after the first minute. I expect him to look more like the gunshy version of Franklin and Helenius, given DDD's dig. If Dubois isn't overawed he can win this.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 14:38
by Coco
Depends on how many openings DDD leaves, he needs to be defensively cute
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 14:54
by coneye
Coco wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 14:38
Depends on how many openings DDD leaves, he needs to be defensively cute
Defensivly cute , Just can't see thiat happening , alls i have a vison of is , Aj , who does carry a decent jab , coming out , doubling a jab up and launching that big right hand , after he's rattled his brain a couple of times , , someone may tell DD he is allowed to move away from the right hand , he'll put that dumb look on his face and say ok then , after which he will move into a left hook, get the other side of his brain rattled , so he'll decide i know i'll lift my hands up and protect my head , then get hit with a left rip , go down and once again say stuff that . Take a knee , look all gormless at the ref , get counted out , and then say , he missed the count
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 15:26
by Kilburn
deadpan wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 14:27
I think the notion that AJ is back in beast mode is a tad fanciful based on Wallin offering nothing and Ngannou being clearly clueless after the first minute. I expect him to look more like the gunshy version of Franklin and Helenius, given DDD's dig. If Dubois isn't overawed he can win this.
That’s largely how I’m looking at it. It’s all well and good talking about Joshua’s timing and that right hand, but he has to actually throw it with some regularity. It’s not as though Dubois will just be waiting around for the perfect moment to strike.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 15:41
by Lenny Cravats
AJ isn't the beast he was, but he punches Dubois into next week.
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 15:55
by JamesPhilips
Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑03 Jun 2024, 15:41
AJ isn't the beast he was, but he punches Dubois into next week.
Exactly
Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Daniel Dubois - who wins?
Posted: 03 Jun 2024, 16:22
by si7dog7
I’m a 50/50 on this.
Daniel is a dog in this fight.
You gotta be a complete mug to dismiss this.
It beggars belief
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