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Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:

Mattyp151 wrote:

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:The Argentinian lightweight Jimmy Wilde (Moisés Ortenberg), unbeaten in all his professional career

42 (1935-1943) Jimmy Wilde (Argentina)

I know the records from then probably are complete, but they're probably close, and he fought NO ONE.

Mattyp,

I'm happy: you know the record of the Argentinian Jimmy Wilde, and I'm very happy too of all you know of the rich Argentinian boxing history, your opinion is original: (JW) "he fought NO ONE", but, please, remember his two drews with Domingo "Mingo" Sciaraffia, former Argentinian Champion, an exceptional stylist, an anticipation of the great Nicolino Locche; the win of JW over Anselmo Casares or when he scored a TKO over the Italian-French-Argentinian Jean Joup. And, when a boy fought no one, but in all his pro career of more than 40 bouts he never lost, it's very significant. Your opinion, is "opinion" or irony?

I can't understand why, but you wrote another times in the Forum letters to me owith ambiguous intentions, a gratuitous hostility disguised of opinion; why?

It's very impressive to go 40+ and not lose, guys today try it and fail many times against even lesser opposition than Wilde faced (Camacho Jr and JCC Jr. are two that truly jump out at me.) And I do apologize for the comment, I had been amped by an earlier conversation, and was on the warpath I guess. However, when taken at more than face value, are there not some noticeable holes in Wilde's record?

And yes, I am very familiar with Argentian boxing, and I am greatful that they come to play the game. They are consistent some of the toughest fighters out there, from Arturo Godoy(edit: thought he was Argentinian....close enough ) giving all Joe Louis could handle for 23 total rounds, and getting up and being ready to fight after having the fight waved, to Bonavena taking Ali and Patterson to the very end, to today with Carlos Baldomir coming up from selling mops and a less than stellar career to a nearly 4 million dollar payday, and Garay giving lineal champ Erdei all he could handle for 24 rounds, and probably should've been giving the nod once. Argentians make some of the best fighters, and when they come to play, you get your money's worth.

Mattyp,

thanks for your answer; all this little discussions were only a misunderstanding, fortunately surpassed. Best regards,
Martín

spoken like a true gent matty

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:Mattyp,

thanks for your answer; all this little discussions were only a misunderstanding, fortunately surpassed. Best regards,
Martín

I almost kicked myself as soon as I hit send on the post talking about great Argentians and probably left out the best of all, Carlos Monzon....still wouldn't beat Marvin...

Hi, friends!

as we see clear, there is in the Forum a lot of nice participants. And between the Argentinian fighters, Monzón was one of the best; in my opinion, 1.Pascual Pérez; 2.Nicolino Locche; 3.Carlos Monzón. Carlos was great but I believe he don't could beat Stanley Ketchell or Harry Greb...

The Argentinian Lightweight Abel Laudonio (who win the Argentinian Title of this weight beating Nicolino Locche on points), scored from the opening of his pro career 19 consecutive K.O.

Er, edwin valero?

evndrbsn wrote:Edwin Valero is now at 18 consecutive KOs.

Edwin Valero was mentioned on February, 2006, by "evndrbsn"; thanks, m1kee50!

kk, I guess we are waiting till the streak ends and put it in the list then, lol

Which boxer has had the most fights? And who has had the longest active career (without retiring, 'breaks', or prison)?

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Len Wickwar has the most recorded bouts with 465 total bouts which so far have been recorded. The longest un-interupted career...I would guess Bob Fitzsimmons, or maybe Jack Johnson, but Bobby Dobbs is a possibility also!

barry wrote:Len Wickwar has the most recorded bouts with 465 total bouts which so far have been recorded. The longest un-interupted career...I would guess Bob Fitzsimmons, or maybe Jack Johnson, but Bobby Dobbs is a possibility also!

thanks

The great Uruguayan Light Heavyweight Ángel Rodríguez, South American Champion, scored 42 K.O. in 48 fights, with a 87,50 %


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The great Uruguayan Light Heavyweight Ángel Rodríguez, South American Champion, scored 42 K.O. in 48 fights, with a 87,50 %

Ángel Rodríguez, who KO'ed Luis Firpo in the first round, between 1914-1918, scored 18 consecutive K.O.

Most consecutive K.O.

21* Edison Miranda 2001-2005
21 Jorge Montalvo 1993-1997
17 Miguel Ángel González 1990-1992
16 Lucas Matthysse 2004-
16* Fabio Romero 1996-1998
15* Fulgencio Zúñiga 2001-2003
15 Daniel Blanco 1982-1986

South American fighters 100 wins or more

151 Federico Thompson 1947-1963
139 Andrés Selpa 1951-1968
130 Jorge Castro 1987-2007
117 Nicolino Locche 1958-1976
114 Jorge Fernández 1953-1973
114 Carlos Giménez 1966-1979
107 Ricardo González 1952-1962
105 Gustavo Ballas 1976-1990
104 Ramón La Cruz 1959-1975
103 Avenamar Peralta 1965-1982
102 Rogelio André 1952-1966
101 Jaime Giné 1954-1966
100 Juan José Giménez 1968-1984

South American fighters K.O. wins, 50 or more


90 Jorge Castro 1987-2007
81 Jorge Fernández 1953-1973
80 Andrés Selpa 1951-1968
72 José Gatica 1945-1956
71 Federico Thompson 1947-1963
64 Avenamar Peralta 1965-1982
63 Martín Vargas 1973-1998
62 Eduardo Lausse 1947-1960
62 Ramón La Cruz 1959-1975
61 Adilson Rodrigues 1983-2000
60 Gregorio Peralta 1958-1973
59 Kid Pascualito 1957-1976
59 Carlos Monzón 1963-1977
59 Carlos Giménez 1966-1979
58 Darío Azuaga 1993-2007
57 Pascual Pérez 1952-1964
56 Ricardo González 1952-1962
56 Rogelio André 1952-1966
55 Alberto Lovell 1934-1951
55 Miguel Ángel Arroyo 1982-2005
53 Carlos Cañete 1962-1970
52 Emilio Alé Alí 1956-1971
51 Miguel Ángel Castellini 1965-1980
50 Eder Jofre 1957-1976
50 Betulio González 1968-1988

"According TRRB of 1981, most consecutive one round K.O.:

One-Round Hogan 18 (1910)
Young Otto 16 (1905)"


Edwin Valero 18* (2002-2006), active

Martin Sosa Cameron wrote:"According TRRB of 1981, most consecutive one round K.O.:

One-Round Hogan 18 (1910)
Young Otto 16 (1905)"


Edwin Valero 18* (2002-2006), active

With 18 consecutive first round knockouts, Tyrone Brunson tied the world record for consecutive first round knockouts set by current WBA Super Featherweight Champion Edwin Valero of Venezuela but secured the US and North American record for consecutive first round knockouts.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer

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evndrbsn wrote:According to the database, Peter McNeeley had a 6 second TKO over Frankie Hines.

Jimmy Thunder KO 10 seconends Crawford Grisly?

"Ángel Rodríguez, who KO'ed Luis Firpo in the first round, between 1914-1918, scored 18 consecutive K.O."


It was 19 consecutive K.O.

AndreWardFan2006 wrote:Whats the fastest knockout?

Officially? Russell Rees KO1 Des Sowden, super featherweights, Ebbw Vale, Wales, November 3 2000.

Four seconds.

Somehow I doubt that the referee counted. It was a prelim fight and neither fighter boxed again. Sowden probably thought he had no future and Rees probably thought it was a good note to go out on.

Tyrone Brunson has 6 bouts of 30 seconds or less -- anyone venture if this is a record or not?