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cosand wrote:

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:

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cosand wrote:
I explained the contradiction in the old threads before, I beleive in a conversation with Matty. I have also explianed that to those who PMed me over the past months who put two and two together and asked who I was, or if I am who I am. . Like I said originally, I went to great lenghts to maintain anyonimity in the open threads, even in throwing out some smoke and mirriors to do so if someone had a hunch. My business life and the heated and sometimes over the top conversation on here don't mesh. I only "came out of the closet" the other day because it added something to the conversation. I am always amused when I hear the "What if" applied to Canalito. What if is a streach. I also thought that it would be taken in the passing, "I said it once and let it go" way in which I presented it. My bad. This is after all, the internet, the home of the undermotivited wannabe who scan archived threads and think they broke the lateral universe theory.
It makes no difference, think what you like. I stayed anoymous until the other day because I never wanted to be the topic of the threads, and it looks like I was correct when I maintained that stance.


Why would you want to remain annonym' after all this time,ts not as if you were a top ranked fighter who blew his chance because of drink and drugs. You played your part in the pro ranks but never made the trop rankings. I'm not sure why you would want to remain behind closed doors. All athletes whether great or not bad should stand up to be counted, at the end of the day we need guys like you who are not world beaters but can test the up and comers. Its not a crime to be medrocre.

by the way, you never answered my question surrounding your fight with John l gardner

It's not that I am in any way ashemed of anyhing in my career. As a matter of fact, it was a period of my life I am proud of. It's just that I see on this and other sites what happens when guys present themselves with their signiture and idnetity. Things degenerate into attacks on them, their families, etc. Have you seen the abuse Stacy Goodson and Chauncy Williver get in current scene. No matter what the topic, it becomes about them, so i just presented myself as some ex fighter with some opinions. I should have kept it that way. When you see me in thses forums, I am working, running a program for business, and killing time muti-tasking in here. It's just a fun distration, wanted to keep it that way.

I will be happy to answer your question though.
The gardner was actually not a good fight for me to take at that point. I had not even gotten all the cobwebs out of my head from the Burbick fight. I am not taking anything away from Gardner though, he was a tough fighter. I needed every inch of that ring to move away, but he still cut me off and tagged me more often then I care to think about. I have no idea what happend to him in the 1st round of the Arrington fight. For my money Gardner was the better fighter. He had a great win over Sykes, and at that point, should have beaten Jimmy Young. That would have been his ticket to bigger things. At the time he met Dokes, Dokes was on a roll and had a point to make after a lackluster performance. Wrong place at the wrong time, and too much firepower to overcome.

Finally, back to your original question on Canalito. In was a little harsh in my earlier post , and I shouldnt have used the word "fix'. I have zero evidence of that. But if you ever have the chance to ask anyone who saw the fight, 9 out of 10 people who saw it will tell you I easily won 3 of the 4 rounds. Lee was a fringe celebrity in those days, a former college football player, complete with endorsements, but boxing was his media outlet. Who the hell was I ? A legacy fighter from the sticks with no KO punch and zero name recognition. I had already upset the apple cart by putting on a clinic for Molyneaux, when i was put in as an easy debut win for him. lignting was not going to be allowed to strike twice I guess.

Collins2000 wrote:

cosand wrote:

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Last thing, what was the name of that heavyweight around your time in the mid to late 70's who was a bit of a celeb in The Ring. He'd done some time in chokey and was quite old when he went pro or his career was interupted or something. He ended up having to quit after he got a few fingers blown off.

Collins...

That rings a bell, but I don't recall who that was or thye exact details.
Something is ringing in my ear about a guy from, I want to say San Francisco...Oakland (???)
This is the kind of thing that will come to me at 2AM one of thses days, after I forgot I was even trying to remember.

Just dug him out of the database. I recalled his name was something like Halpin and finally got him.

Bobby Halpern

Turned pro in 1958 then got banged up for a long stretch and came back in the mid 70's but ended up getting some fingers shot off and gave it up. There were a few articles on him in The Ring at the time - maybe someone can recall them.

I wonder if he's still raising hell somewhere.

Brutu wrote:

Cutman Scabbers wrote:Do remember much of the Vic Brown fight?

That was in 1982 when Sylvester Stallone became Canalito's promter and Ritchie Giaghetti became Canalito's trainer
(Canalito split with Angelo Dundee in 1981,as he had zero fights in 1980-1981,probably due to knee injury and Hollywood.
This was when they use to show high lights on the local sports of Canalito's fights.
I didnt see the fight but I suspect Canalito knocked out Vic Brown with a right uppercut,which was one of his better punches.

man wrote:Sorrentino/Cosand sounds legit to me. nobody in his right mind
makes such a claim here - knowing full well how this will end
since people will dig. he sounds like a non-bragger to me ...
and actually not too young either. there is too much reason in
his writing.

i hope this will not be one of these never ending painful subjects
that conspiracy theorists love so much ... post after post with a
little thing here and little thing there ...

Brutu wrote:Lee Canalito had fought on the CBS Sports Spectacular in 1977 at least 3 times in preliminaries to the main events.
I am almost sure that Lee Canalito vrs Greg Sorrentino was aired on the same CBS SPORTS SPECTACULAR show as
Leon Spinks vs Pedro Agosto May.7.1977 from the Kiel Auditorium in St.Louis MO.
(it was taped and shown later that weekend on CBS)
No doubt Sylvester Stallone has or had a video-recording of that fight.
Angelo Dundee was training Canalito in 1977,but later Sylvester Stallone was watching video-recordings of fights
because he was planning to have a "Rocky Heavyweight tournament",and then a few years later he managed Canalito.
It would be interesting to see the video of the Canalito vs Sorrentino fight and judge for ourselves.

Brutu wrote:Maybe its 20 years too, but would you sign the petition for the Texas Brawl?
Lee Canalito vs George Foreman.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=115rd9AI-RY

Brutu wrote:Here is a trivia question for Greg Sorrentino that perhaps he can answer here(if it really is him).
What famous Hall of Fame boxer was Greg Sorrentino reportedly a protege of?

Brutu wrote:Here is another trivia question.
Which actor was Sylvestor Stallone's first choice to play his brother
Victor Carboni(Lee Canalito)
in the 1978 movie PARADISE ALLEY?

Giancarlo wrote:

Brutu wrote:Here is another trivia question.
Which actor was Sylvestor Stallone's first choice to play his brother
Victor Carboni(Lee Canalito)
in the 1978 movie PARADISE ALLEY?

Danny DeVito. Next!

Brutu wrote:

Giancarlo wrote:

Brutu wrote:Here is another trivia question.
Which actor was Sylvestor Stallone's first choice to play his brother
Victor Carboni(Lee Canalito)
in the 1978 movie PARADISE ALLEY?

Danny DeVito. Next!

BBBZZZZZ.
iNCORRECT

the correct answer:Lou Ferrigno
(reportedly he turned the role down)