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Coco wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:11 What's the odds on a draw? Worth 20 quid I'm sure

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:10

jwfg wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:07

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 16:58 One thing is, there's no dog in Fury, he certainly won't capitulate meekly.

100% agree. Fury has shown a lot of guts and grit. He'll give it his all, but he's a high mileage vehicle. He's just been decked by a zero fight novice. Usyk's going to dominate this fight.

I think the Zero fight novice is a little misleading, I mean NGannou knows how to punch.

I think more the worry, was the fact that Fury's timing looked really bad, he didn't seem to be able to find the gaps for his own shots, and was off the pace the entire fight.

I remember a quote by holyfield, I think it was one of the fights he had after Valuev, near the tail end of his career and he said something along the lines of "I can still see the gaps, but I just can't pull the trigger quick enough, and by the time I do, it's gone."

That's what happens to fighters as they age, especially ones who haven't lived the life.

jwfg wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 16:17 I've got a strange feeling that Usyk is going to take center ring and really push the pace from the third round.

jwfg wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:20

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:10

jwfg wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:07

100% agree. Fury has shown a lot of guts and grit. He'll give it his all, but he's a high mileage vehicle. He's just been decked by a zero fight novice. Usyk's going to dominate this fight.

I think the Zero fight novice is a little misleading, I mean NGannou knows how to punch.

I think more the worry, was the fact that Fury's timing looked really bad, he didn't seem to be able to find the gaps for his own shots, and was off the pace the entire fight.

I remember a quote by holyfield, I think it was one of the fights he had after Valuev, near the tail end of his career and he said something along the lines of "I can still see the gaps, but I just can't pull the trigger quick enough, and by the time I do, it's gone."

That's what happens to fighters as they age, especially ones who haven't lived the life.

I agree with the Holyfield thing, but not Ngannou. Look what AJ did to him. No way Francis would have done that to Usyk, prepared or not.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 09:08

jwfg wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 06:23 Hey Big Doofus, I'll make you a bet. Loser leaves the forum forever. I pick Usyk, you have Luke.

What do you say Doof?

Fury vs Usyk
You vs Me
John Fury vs Out of Shape, Balding Jew.

You up for it?

The losers are the ones who claimed that Fury was too scared to fight.
After the fight, biglennox, nightmareroy, TheGratest and yourself leaving would improve the forum.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:03 I've no idea how this will play out, I keep changing my mind!

Coco wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:11 What's the odds on a draw? Worth 20 quid I'm sure

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 02:09

Coco wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:11 What's the odds on a draw? Worth 20 quid I'm sure

Was looking at that and between searches, the odds for the draw had reduced. Suggests to me people are having a dabble on that outcome.

coneye wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 17:27 Like everyone else , i've been giving this fight a lot of thought who wins , how they win ect ect . I keep thinking to start with Fury ducked and dived his whole carreer , his best wins being an old champ when he was on the boar meat who he then refused a rematch , followed by Wilder who turns out is a bit rubbish anyway . So based on this Usyk quite easy .

Then i think Usyk , his best wins have to be AJ but Aj is slow and stiff , on the other hand Chisora took it to him with some degree of success , DD did hurt him with a body shot , and size does matter , which is in Furys favor . Because after all Fury handled Chisora with ease , and if we were calling Fury -- DD it would be a no brainer 100% would probably pick Fury in an easy win

So after much careful consideration i've come to the conclusion ,, were 4 days away and i still hav'nt got a clue

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 02:19 I don’t know if it’s an optical illusion, but Fury looks suddenly much older about the face to me - when he turned up with the hat yesterday. A bit worn out..

Let’s see how he looks at the weigh in, maybe he just hasn’t slept much
Or it could be drastic weight loss

But this week I’ve started to realise the obvious, he’s facing a P4P talent at the peak of his powers who’s probably gonna beat him handily.

And yet the bookies have it evens..

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 02:19 I don’t know if it’s an optical illusion, but Fury looks suddenly much older about the face to me - when he turned up with the hat yesterday. A bit worn out..

Let’s see how he looks at the weigh in, maybe he just hasn’t slept much
Or it could be drastic weight loss

But this week I’ve started to realise the obvious, he’s facing a P4P talent at the peak of his powers who’s probably gonna beat him handily.

And yet the bookies have it evens..

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 16:21

jwfg wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 12:26

TheGun13 wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 11:14 I strongly fancied Usyk to win this for a while, but lack of VADA testing and the shape Fury appears to be in is making me less confident.

No way in the world Fury wins this fight.

I expect a robbery. Fury is at the Canelo stage of entering each fight with a 3 round head start

stevec@france wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 04:46 have they announced the judges yet ?

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 04:56

stevec@france wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 04:46 have they announced the judges yet ?

Some blokes named John, Peter and Tommy.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 04:46 Saw a clip of Tyson posing with his top off, have to say, don't think he looks in good nick at all. He still had really weirdly shaped love handles, and he had loads of slack skin, which suggests he lost lots of weight very very quickly. which isn't a good thing.

He doesn't look particularly strong in the arms and shoulders - I undestand it's not bodybuilding, but he doesn't look like he's in top condition, I wonder if he's gone for weight loss, to come in light and with improved stamina, if so, suggests he is looking to fight at a pace, to try and match Usyk.

Intriguing fight, I am going to have to go with Usyk, looking at the form guide. The only outlier is their respective performances against Chisora, but styles make fights, and also Usyk was still feeling his way into the heavyweight division, and I think he was assessing how he could handle a big full blown heavyweight..

Bring it on!

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 04:46 Saw a clip of Tyson posing with his top off, have to say, don't think he looks in good nick at all. He still had really weirdly shaped love handles, and he had loads of slack skin, which suggests he lost lots of weight very very quickly. which isn't a good thing.

He doesn't look particularly strong in the arms and shoulders - I undestand it's not bodybuilding, but he doesn't look like he's in top condition, I wonder if he's gone for weight loss, to come in light and with improved stamina, if so, suggests he is looking to fight at a pace, to try and match Usyk.

Intriguing fight, I am going to have to go with Usyk, looking at the form guide. The only outlier is their respective performances against Chisora, but styles make fights, and also Usyk was still feeling his way into the heavyweight division, and I think he was assessing how he could handle a big full blown heavyweight..

Bring it on!